Hi-speed T-Max 3200, Delta 3200, or ?
Old 10-13-2011   #1
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Hi-speed T-Max 3200, Delta 3200, or ?

I love the look I get with TMY-2 and I would like to try some of the higher speed films, but I haven't used them in ages. Last I remember, the T-Max 3200 was super grainy and the Delta 3200 was low contrast (developed in D-76.)

Just curious as to what people are using these days and what kind of results you're seeing? I'd be shooting mainly indoors / outdoors at night, wanting a 1600 - 6400 speed film. Medium contrast and grain kept to a minimum.
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Old 10-13-2011   #2
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Try the Tmax3200 in the Tmax Developer. It's not as grainy as with other developer. Soup it at the lower temperature using a 1:4. I have few samples somewhere. Will try and locate them. I've never tried Delta3200.
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try the Delta 3200 with DDX... it's pretty good..


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TMax3200 @6400 in TMaxDev. 1+4



Don't expect anything in the shadows...
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Neopan 1600 in Diafine for me, shot at 1600.
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TMZ @1600 in TMaxDev. 1+4



TMZ @1600 in 1+50 Rodinal

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it's interesting that all three of the images are ice and snow... !
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winter time - high speed film time ...
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I like my results with Delta 3200. I suppose you could use Rodinal to increase the contrast.
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Old 10-13-2011   #10
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A last one:

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Either of them in Tmax Developer. I prefer Delta 3200 slightly, but Tmax 3200 is great too. Use Tmax Developer, for both films. They SUCK in D-76. BAD. Xtol is merely decent, but not as nice as Tmax Developer for Tmax 3200; I have not tried it for the Ilford film.


Delta 3200 at EI-3200



Delta 3200 at EI-1600



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Old 10-14-2011   #12
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I've had very nice results with T-Max 3200 at 800 or 1600 in XTOL 1:1. It works alright at 3200 too, but you do begin to lose a noticeable amount in the shadows when exposed like that.

I've also heard good things about T-Max dev, DD-X, and Microphen with these films.

These are all shots on T-Max 3200. If you look in the tags, you can see what I rated it at (EI 800, 1600, etc.):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tgray1/tags/p3200tmz/
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Thanks for the responses everyone. I'll order some Tmax dev and see how it goes.
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I just replied to a thread about high speed film recently: http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...d.php?t=111405

I often shoot Tri-X at 3200 and develop in microphen.. Some examples are shown in the other thread. Great contrast, minimal grain, and I rarely need to edit the scans (when I say, 'edit,' I never do more that adjust levels/constrast)
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TMax p3200 at EI10,000, developed with time for 12500 in Microphen.


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Some very nice samples posted here guys. Thankyou
Eugene that last one is very emotion filled! Wonderful
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Eugene, that is a stunning photo ...
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Thank you folks!

This was the same exposure and processing:


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I know that the Delta has a bit higher true sensitivity. But for me somehow P3200 works better when pushed really far.. I know that there are people who swear with the Ilford though. But at EI1600, D3200 works for me too (this was also in stock Microphen):


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Tmax p3200 in Tmax developer (stock).



P3200 is good but but would like to push Neopan 400 ($2 at recent deal) for economical reason.
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Either of them in Tmax Developer. I prefer Delta 3200 slightly, but Tmax 3200 is great too. Use Tmax Developer, for both films. They SUCK in D-76. BAD. Xtol is merely decent, but not as nice as Tmax Developer for Tmax 3200; I have not tried it for the Ilford film.



Delta 3200 at EI-1600

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Chris ... I really like that Funnel Cake stand shot in Delta 3200... did you do that in Tmax or DDX?
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Either of them in Tmax Developer. I prefer Delta 3200 slightly, but Tmax 3200 is great too. Use Tmax Developer, for both films. They SUCK in D-76. BAD. Xtol is merely decent, but not as nice as Tmax Developer for Tmax 3200; I have not tried it for the Ilford film.



Delta 3200 at EI-1600

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Chris ... I really like that Funnel Cake stand shot in Delta 3200... did you do that in Tmax or DDX?
Tmax Developer. I've never tried DDX, no one sells it where I live. Tmax Developer is easy to get, but I'd have to order the ilford stuff.
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Old 10-18-2012   #23
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Does anyone else have examples of P3200 in Rodinal? The ones that were up are no longer there. Since I have some Rodinal, I was considering trying it. The general consensus seems to be to only use T-Max for it, and given it's new rare status and soon-to-be extinction (is this really true?) I don't want to ruin the last few rolls I have of it.
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Rodinal is insanely grainy with D3200, that much I know from experience. With P3200 I do not know.
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Delta 3200 in Rodinal rated at EI6400 1:25 20 mins (low agitation)



Some examples of TMZ in Rodinal here:
http://photo-utopia.blogspot.co.uk/2...-max-3200.html
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I had never shot Tmax 3200 before, so I picked some up for low-light shooting, such as the circus and a band playing at a local bar. I shot 2 rolls at 1600 and developed them this weekend in Tmax developer. This combo has it's own unique look, much different than what I used to with D76 and slower films, and since it's my first experience I may not have nailed it as well as I hopefully will in the future, but overall I am really impressed. I'll keep shooting it until it's no longer available, then I'll switch to Delta 3200. I like having a really fast film for times when I can't get by with 400 films (and I've not had much success with pushing Tri-X).

Here are a few examples...


untitled-713 by smokeycalifornia, on Flickr


untitled-703 by smokeycalifornia, on Flickr

And I thought it fared well in daylight too. This is with a yellow filter, which allowed me to shoot at 800 instead of 1600.


untitled-673 by smokeycalifornia, on Flickr


untitled-708 by smokeycalifornia, on Flickr



untitled-706 by smokeycalifornia, on Flickr

PS: I should thank Chris Crawford for inspiring me to give this film a try with Tmax developer. I like his nighttime carnival photos and tried to get similar results shooting it at 1600 and developing it in Tmax.
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Andy, these are some very nice shots, i like the tones very much.
Here are two interesting tough not so good hispeed shots i did a while ago:

This is Tmax 3200, STAND dev in Rodinal. Dunno why, i thought it was a cool idea back then. + Lazyness. Well, mostly laziness i guess. Tones are not great but still ok but as you can see, the grain is beyond anything that is legal.

M6_LUX35_TMAX3200_ROD100STAND_FX6-1 von sebastianlock auf Flickr

This is Trix pushed to 3200 and developed in ultrafin liquid. Lot more contrast and no good tonal range. Sharpness is pretty good though.

M6_LUX35_TRIX3200_ULTRA10_23MIN-32 von sebastianlock auf Flickr

Atm i dont shoot much hispeed film, but when i do i for some reason prefer pushing trix to about 2000. I find it quite hard to get reliable and repeatable results with any high spped film, but that is probably just my lack of experience.

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Seb, I think your two shots illustrate exactly the what is great about that film and what is challenging about it. Your bottom image, which I assume was taken inside in low light, has beautiful contrast with dark blacks and bright whites. It's a terrific photograph. Tmax 3200 seems to do best in those scenarios. But outside shots without a lot of contrast, like your first image, suffer from lower resolution and more grain than we're used to slower films typically used outdoors.
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D3200 @ 1600 in Tmax developer 1:4. Mamiya 7, 65mm f/4; monopod; candlelight

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This was my first attempt with 3200 film.
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Nice shot, Kent. I'm going to try Delta 3200 next. Looks good.
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This is D3200 in Tmax developer. Normally I don't like this film but strangely it seems to work quite well for this still life.
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This is D3200 in Tmax developer. Normally I don't like this film but strangely it seems to work quite well for this still life.
That looks great, Lawrence. The grain gives some texture to something that is normally very smooth, without detail. Delta 3200 is one of my favorite films. I've been playing with it recently in 120 size in my Mamiya 6. This one was developed in Tmax Developer and was shot at 3200:

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