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Old 11-02-2016   #1
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a mac question...

i use a mac mini at home.
my macbook has finally died.
i have an ipad mini also.

i would like to get somethng a bit bigger than the ipad mini on which to process images...the mini is a bit small and while it does ok with developing apps (like snapseed) i'm wondering about being able to add something like photoshop elements...
the ipad pro looks good, the smaller one...does anyone know if i can add pse to the pro series ipads?
or is there something smaller/cheaper that mac offers that would accept pse?
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Old 11-02-2016   #2
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There's a range of adobe apps on the app store.
One that might be what you're looking for s Adobe Photoshop Express and Mix. But no photoshop elements I'm afraid.
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i use a mac mini at home.
my macbook has finally died.
i have an ipad mini also.

i would like to get somethng a bit bigger than the ipad mini on which to process images...the mini is a bit small and while it does ok with developing apps (like snapseed) i'm wondering about being able to add something like photoshop elements...
the ipad pro looks good, the smaller one...does anyone know if i can add pse to the pro series ipads?
or is there something smaller/cheaper that mac offers that would accept pse?
The iPad Pro 9.7" is a much faster, higher spec performer than the iPad mini 3 (I have both and have compared directly).

Photoshop Elements is only available on macOS and Windows. There are other Adobe image processing apps for the iPad, but I don't use them. Instead, I use SnapSeed and Photogene, as well as PhotoRAW. Photogene is the most similar to PSE. There are lots of other apps that do photo editing as well, many are excellent.

(If you must have Photoshop Elements, then you should look at the just-announced MacBook Pro 13". It's nearly the size and weight of the MacBook Air 11" due to a much much thinner bezel surrounding the screen, and has quite a bit more performance.)

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I eventually got tired of the slow laptops and small screens. For the same kind of money as a new laptop you can get yourself a 2009/2010 mac pro 6 core ( sweet spot for photoshop) and a nice 24 Dell screen. If you have the space it really is worthwhile.
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the mac mini works fine for me but obviously it stays home.
i have tons of 'free' time at work and could work on images here for hours...but i need something portable...light weight...
so, barring getting a laptop and going with any ipad i'll need to stay with apps.
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Take a look at the max memory and the easy of install. I have my wife's old (2010 mid) Mac book pro maxed out at 16gb and an solid state drive to boot from and it runs very well. One son has what is now the last generation MacBook Pro and is very happy, the other switched to a HP with a 17 inch screen. Loves the screen but misses the speed of typing French on an English keyboard.

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Perhaps a used macbook might be the answer. It's a real computer and will run real programs, in fact you should be able to set it up with the existing software you have on the Mini.
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had not thought of used...hhmmm.
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check out the used laptops from OWC (macsales.com). They' re a reliable company and refurb everything they sell.
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I run Lightroom mobile on my iPad pro. It's a nice option, because you can sync it with your laptop or desktop with Lightroom, and your edits made on either machine are kept on both. When I'm done working with a given group of images (like after they have been delivered to the client, or when I'm happy with my "final" edits) I move them off the iPad and free that memory for other files, but Lightroom keeps little thumbnails so I can still view all my images. Another benefit is that the mobile version of Lightroom is free (or at least, it was...?) whether or not you are an Adobe subscriber.
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Do any of the iPad apps have layers like photoshop has?
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I love my 27" iMac 5K and my iPad Air. But I think a used MacBook might be the best option for portable photo editing.
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I love my 27" iMac 5K and my iPad Air. But I think a used MacBook might be the best option for portable photo editing.
Ahh yes the 27" iMac, Apple's answer to a Mac with all the portability of an 8x10 view camera.

You are right, a refurb MacBook air would be great.

Though I bet he has a messenger bag an iMac would fit in!

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If you want to buy a refurbished Apple system (iPad, MacBook, etc), you can get them with the standard warranty (and also get the AppleCare extended warranty) direct from Apple:

http://www.apple.com/shop/browse/home/specialdeals/mac

I've owned several refurbished Apple systems bought this way over the years. Only way to tell them apart from a new system is the lack of the fancy original packaging.

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I am using a 9.7 ipad pro with the pencil and use it to make quick edits on the go. The last upgradeable MBP (dual ssd, 16 gb, i7, 15") stays at home 100% of the time.
Apps like Astropad allow using the ipad + pencil as a graphics tablet to control LR and PS over your wifi network, an interesting and viable option.
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Interesting thread: here in Brexitland Apple's prices for all MacBooks just went through the roof, but the iPads have held their price-points, likely because they're in a more competitive market segment. It has led me to re-consider my next purchase of a portable photo-editor, and the iPad Pro's look interesting

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The iPad Pro 9.7" is a much faster, higher spec performer than the iPad mini 3 (I have both and have compared directly).
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I am using a 9.7 ipad pro with the pencil and use it to make quick edits on the go.
Godfrey and Fuchs: just wondering if either of you guys considered the 12.9" iPad Pro before opting for the 9.7" model: the bigger machine has more RAM and a faster processor, but it is said the 9.7" has a better display: was that the key to your purchase decision?
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Interesting thread: here in Brexitland Apple's prices for all MacBooks just went through the roof, but the iPads have held their price-points, likely because they're in a more competitive market segment. It has led me to re-consider my next purchase of a portable photo-editor, and the iPad Pro's look interesting

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Godfrey and Fuchs: just wondering if either of you guys considered the 12.9" iPad Pro before opting for the 9.7" model: the bigger machine has more RAM and a faster processor, but it is said the 9.7" has a better display: was that the key to your purchase decision?
Actually, I have one of those too (it was a department gift at the end of 2015—everyone was given one) and I later bought a 9.7" for myself because the 12.9" was such a good machine.

The difference in performance and even screen quality between the two iPad Pro models is small: you have to look for it to see it. They both run all my image processing apps very well. My 12.9 has 128G storage where the 9.7 has 256G storage, which helps.

I bought the 9.7 because the 12.9 was so useful but it seemed a bit large. If you're looking at an iPad Pro as a 13" laptop replacement and you're carrying equipment is setup for laptops, the 12.9 does extremely well as it's thinner than a MacBook Air and the screen is even better. The 9.7 form factor fits more of my camera bags well, however; I tend to use small bags like the Billingham Alice L2 or Tenba DNA 8 most of the time.

(I've kept the iPad mini 3 around as well because that fits in even smaller bags and is even lighter/thinner/smaller.)

The iPad Pro has become my "standard" computer in the past year. I tend to use the 9.7 and 12.9 more than my Mac systems because the iPads are so portable and run so long on a battery charge.

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the smaller ipad pro seems to fit my bill best...now to save a few more bucks and put that fuji 10-24 out of my head!
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Actually, I have one of those too (it was a department gift at the end of 2015—everyone was given one) and I later bought a 9.7" for myself because the 12.9" was such a good machine.

The difference in performance and even screen quality between the two iPad Pro models is small: you have to look for it to see it. They both run all my image processing apps very well. My 12.9 has 128G storage where the 9.7 has 256G storage, which helps.

I bought the 9.7 because the 12.9 was so useful but it seemed a bit large. If you're looking at an iPad Pro as a 13" laptop replacement and you're carrying equipment is setup for laptops, the 12.9 does extremely well as it's thinner than a MacBook Air and the screen is even better. The 9.7 form factor fits more of my camera bags well, however; I tend to use small bags like the Billingham Alice L2 or Tenba DNA 8 most of the time.

(I've kept the iPad mini 3 around as well because that fits in even smaller bags and is even lighter/thinner/smaller.)

The iPad Pro has become my "standard" computer in the past year. I tend to use the 9.7 and 12.9 more than my Mac systems because the iPads are so portable and run so long on a battery charge.

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Thanks very much for this Godfrey: I think the iPad Pro will be my next purchase, and it will be down to haptics which size I go for: a hands-on in the Apple Store should give me the answer (though I expect the smaller machine will win out).

I sensed that Apple's revised pricing structure was giving me one of those sharp-elbowed nudges they administer to us faithful followers from time to time, and in this case the shunt was away from the MacBooks in the direction of the iPad Pro's for photo edits on the move.

Now what I need is for Adobe to allow metadata edits (esp keywords, captions, etc) in LR Mobile, and the iPad will finally become the really cool travelling indispensable I always wanted it to be!
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I use my (company sponsored) Macbook Pro (late 2013, Core i5, 16G RAM, 500G SSD) with an external 'hardware calibrated' 24" LG monitor. The build-in 'Retina' screen is nice, but too small for editing photos, IMO. I don't use PS, though -- the MacOS Photos app does all I want.
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Now what I need is for Adobe to allow metadata edits (esp keywords, captions, etc) in LR Mobile, and the iPad will finally become the really cool travelling indispensable I always wanted it to be!
LR Mobile doesn't do that now? I would expect that that is what I'd be looking for most of all if I were using LR Mobile, rather than extraordinary image processing capabilities.

I'll have to look up LR Mobile and see what it can do. I really will be surprised if it cannot do IPTC editing already.

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Back Alley -- Photos and 4k video never looked as good as they do on my 5K iMac. Greatest photo environment I've found.

On the road, I'm a die-hard fan of MacBook Pro, but of course YMMV. When stationary, the 5K iMac with todays digital images puts photos into a different world.
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Macbook mid 2011 2.54Ghz with FireWire and 4Gb RAM is the one to get.


This model secretly takes 8Gb RAM and can easily be fitted with a 250Gb SSD drive, it's not a hard job for an IT-savvy person.

Will set you back around USD650 altogether but you'll have a machine that is very fast. My daughter has mine now that I'm unable to work and her earlier MBP died, and she loves it.
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LR Mobile doesn't do that now? I would expect that that is what I'd be looking for most of all if I were using LR Mobile, rather than extraordinary image processing capabilities.
Exactly: I started a thread on the Adobe forum requesting metadata edits & keywording in LR Mobile on the Adobe forum over two years ago, and it gets regular expressions of support to this day. On LR Journal in July Josh Haftel said "We’ve heard the request to do metadata entry as well and are working on it" (first reply in the responses section, below the blog post)
So maybe soon...
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I'm late to this discussion. I have a 2012 MacBook Pro that is worn out, it has been a great machine. It is a 15" version. I'm looking at the new MBP 13" to replace it. Has anyone used Adobe Cloud on one?

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