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Old 08-24-2016   #1
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fuji 23/2...who's gonna buy it?

i love the 23/1.4 and yet i find myself liking the idea of the new 23...but only because it's smaller and would make a very compact street lens.
a small lens on an xe2...seems like a pleasant experience.
the 35/2 was priced very well for a quick buy...i wonder what the slower 23 will be priced at?
when i was shooting the canon p i had 3 different canon 35mm lenses (3 p bodies also)...
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Old 08-24-2016   #2
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I think I'll continue to rely on my X100 for that FL in the digital realm. Plus I have a couple of 24mm MF lenses and the CV25mm which provide excellent alternatives when using the appropriate adapter on my XE2.
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Not me. I'm not really interested in either of the new F2 primes, I'd much rather if they remade the older 1.4 designs with better AF motors and shrank them a little where possible.
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If the price is right, if has some 'soul', and if its small enough, I might interested in trading in my 27 for the new 23.
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Just saw the announcement. The 23/2 will be selling for $449 in the U.S.. And its weather resistant like the 35/2. In the picture it looks to be about the same size as the 35/2.
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A big bonus… the 23/2 uses the same filter thread as the 35/2, AND… the same vented lens hood! :-)
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Here's one of the first write-ups about the lens:
https://jonasraskphotography.com/201...xf-23mm-f2-wr/
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Doubtful but I never know. Have the 23/1.4. By the time I'm done selling and buying I'll have paid more for less or break-even at best. Size doesn't bother me. I seldom shoot the 23 and when I do I don't mind a day walking around with it.
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I am very interested, at least in the concept. Will have to wait for the reviews though. I have the 27/2.8 and 35/1.4 FX's and also 24, 28, 28, 35 adapted lenses
Some day I wished they'd do a 28/f2.0 with an aperture ring. I'd sell of a few to get that.
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If I didn't use the X100T as my go-to camera, I 'd order the 23/2.
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I'm not planning on buying it...at least right away. Since I love the X100S with its fixed 23/2 so much and since I have the 23/1.4 (just about permanently attached to an XP1 body), I don't see me getting much use out of the new Fuji offering. I'm sure the new 23/2 will be an optical improvement over the X100S/T fixed lens but the camera/lens package of the X100 series is so perfect it's my most used piece of equipment. Of course, I also have the 35/2 and the 35/1.4 so anything is possible down the road.
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I'll likely refrain. I've got the 27 and lately have been using the Voigtlander 25, which is great for zone focusing on the X-Pro.

Of course, I've said this many times before and caved, so who knows.

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I have two X100(T) cameras and I'm not sure if I should go this route yet. Maybe used in a few months. Or just wait for the next X100. Since the cheapest Fuji (XA-3) just went 24mp, I would think the next X100 is going to be released very very soon.
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I am very tempted!

Of course, I would love to have the 1.4/23, but it's too expensive for my taste (I am a somewhat tight-fisted when it comes to buying gear, no lens for more than €500 and no cam for more than €1500. Even with my Leica stuff that has worked out. Just my Df was a bit more expensive.)

So, this 2/23 could be the perfect compromise for me between the 1.4/23 and the manual 24mm lenses I sometimes adapt to my Fujis.
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Preorder just went live. $449. Sep 29 release date according to B&H. I preordered a black one.
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Doubt it.... 23 is not my tea.
I'm using the 18-55 and 55-200 as a tandem for events.
The 35mm f1.4 lives on a body when it's personal time.
The 50mm FOV is more my style.
I would like an updated fast 35mm but only if it's still an actual 35...
The rumored upcoming f1/30mm lens sounds interesting but..... a 35/40mm actual Fl would be better
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I always told myself that a 23/2 WR would be what it took to get me to replace my NEX gear with Fuji, but I ended up jumping the gun when the 35/2 was on sale a while back. Now I'm not so sure I'll pick up a 23, I'm enjoying getting used to a 50mm-e after years of not using that FOV much. Besides, I have the odd little Fuji 24/8 if I really want the 35mm-e FOV.
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Pre-ordered it first thing in the morning.

The x100T has been my go-to walk around camera since it was released and I love traveling with it, but now having a water resistant kit with the XP2 and both 35mm and 50mm focal lengths, this will be my new go-to travel set.

I especially like how both lenses use the same hood and filter size. This is an area Fuji has serious been lagging in compared to the other Pro brands. Their lenses primarily use the same filter size so you don't have to worry about buying dozens of different filters and/or step rings (all my old Canon L glass used 77mm filters. 5 lenses and I only needed 1 size filter for them all). Again, much nicer for travel.

While the images I've seen out of the 23 f1.4 are lust worthy, I could never be bothered to buy one due to the massive size. At least the f2 version puts it closer in line to the size of an x100.

Since the XP2 came out I've been using a 35 f2 and 18 f2 combo. I'm actually surprised at how much I've grown to like the 28mm FL, but at the end of the day, I'm more comfortable with 35mm and prefer the weather sealing/faster focus. The 35mm and 50mm combo was one I used for years with film cameras and covers nearly all situations I find myself in. So yeah, I'm looking forward to the new lens! Only bummer is it doesn't look like it'll be delivered in time for my European trip next month.

Only 'negative' I have is that I wish the lens was priced at $399, so $50 less. Minor quibble, but I think a $399 price point is more reasonable.
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I probably will unless there is a 27/2. And I would like an updated 18/2 with improved edge performance. 18/2 and 27/2 are a perfect kit.
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Why New F2 Design for 23mm
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Why New F2 Design for 23mm

The single most important reason for the new 23mm F2 design is clearly visible. When you look at the cross section of the optical design. These lenses are going to produce a totally different visual "thumbprint". The new design is really targeted towards better resolution of fine details, with resorting to using high contrast charteristic like is so common in many new generation digital designs. Also this should have a much better BOKE. In terms of misting or melting progressively in front or behind the chosen focus point.

I would suggest looking at the comparion diagrams from the new Fuji lenses Catagory for X-series lenses.

You can find the diagram I posted at Twitter...user name Dantedmoney

The need for this lens is to offer a different "personality" than the F1.4
Which is excellent.....this just a better design for micro details and also costs less. But again it's just offering more creative options. Lower cost does not mean less quality. I'm waiting on a sample for testing.
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Only 'negative' I have is that I wish the lens was priced at $399, so $50 less. Minor quibble, but I think a $399 price point is more reasonable.
Agreed, I wonder why it is not the same as the 35mm.
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I will certainly buy it. Even at the price asked, it fits a needed niche in my lineup that the 23/1.4 was too large to do well (and that no rangefinder lenses have been able to do at a price I can deal with).
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I will but I might wait for Joe to buy it, then sell and I'll buy off him. lol
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I will but I might wait for Joe to buy it, then sell and I'll buy off him. lol
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if it is the same lens in X100/S/T I may buy it, in case it also performs equally well.
I love how it draws on those cameras and I have an X-E1
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if it is the same lens in X100/S/T I may buy it, in case it also performs equally well.
I love how it draws on those cameras and I have an X-E1
It'll be better than the X100 version.
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I do not plan on buying the 35mm f/2 Fuji lens for the following reasons:

1. The angle-of-view of a 35mm on an APS Fuji X body (or 50mm on a full frame body) has never been a favorite of mine.

2. For my shooting style, I prefer the 28mm focal length to 35mm.

3. For my shooting style, I prefer the 23mm focal length to 35mm or 28mm.

4. I value lens speed more than I value a small lens size.

5. I prefer a faster f/1.4 lens rather than the slower f/2 lens.

6. I can use the 35mm focal length on my 16-55mm f/2.8 Fuji zoom if I need that focal length.

7. I can use my adapted 35mm f/1.4 or 35mm f/2 Nikon lenses if I need that focal length.
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fuji 23/2...who's gonna buy it?
I will not because:

1. I prefer a faster f/1.4 lens rather than a slower f/2 lens.

2. I value lens speed more than I value small lens size.

3. I own the 23 f/1.4 and love it. It was the first lens I purchased for my X-Pro1.
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Early tests show it performs much better than the x100 lens, which I would hope to be the case. I rarely shoot the x100T below f4 because of how soft it gets. Apart from weather sealing, a redesigned/sharper lens is my biggest 'want' out of the next gen x100

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if it is the same lens in X100/S/T I may buy it, in case it also performs equally well.
I love how it draws on those cameras and I have an X-E1
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if it is the same lens in X100/S/T I may buy it, in case it also performs equally well.
I love how it draws on those cameras and I have an X-E1
As above. I would certainly hope it's better. The X100's are a nice package, I've had all three. While the lens get's the job done, it's compromised below f4. My 23/1.4 is a better lens than the X100's 23. Expected yes, but it does not take 100% and pixel peeping to see the difference. The 23/1.4 is also more adaptable for close shots and low light.
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if it is the same lens in X100/S/T I may buy it, in case it also performs equally well.
I love how it draws on those cameras and I have an X-E1
If it is the same lens from the X100 series I definitely will NOT buy it! The flare issues are too serious even with the hood. Otherwise, probably will, even though I have the 1.4. Just for the size.
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Tests? Who has tested it? Can you post links?
The test wasn't the x100 vs the 23 f2, but rather the 23 f2 vs the 23 f1.4
https://ivanjoshualoh.com/2016/08/25...bling-rivalry/

If you wanted to take that a step further you could compare the 23 f1.4 vs the x100 and draw your conclusions between the 23 f2 and x100
http://www.fujivsfuji.com/x100-s-t-vs-23mm-f1pt4/

Regardless, the 23 f2 appears to be much sharper than the x100 in every early hands-on test I've read thus far. Which, again, is absolutely zero surprise. Not sure why anyone would buy the 23 f2 if it only performed as well as the x100. If you already have an x100 (like many of us do), you'd want a better quality lens. Otherwise, there's no reason to buy a new lens.
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I already have the XF18mm and XF35 WR but I wanted to get one in-between.
My choices were
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The Skopar would be great as I could use it on the M3 and Fuji X body and it's still something that I would really like, however I bought a Fuji 27mm this morning at The Camera Store as it was on 20% off and $50 mail in rebate from Fuji.
This lens is very tiny and light, not a big fan of no aperture dial but it;s something I can live with.
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The price is a bit steep, but I am sorely tempted. Maybe I'll end up with a used X100 of some description instead, though?
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I'm waiting on some more comprehensive samples, but looks pretty good so far.
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My Leica system has become pretty much 21-35-50mm setup and not moving. I got 35/2 for Fuji now, and planning to add the 23/2 when it comes out. I'd love to see the 14mm revamped to a WR model to keep my X-Pro2 system all weather resistant.
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Heads up: Kenmore Camera (Fujifilm authorized dealer) got some in stock and listed on Ebay. (MSRP, free shipping) I canceled my order with B&H and just bought one from them. Already got tracking number.

Disclaimer: I have no affiliation with the store. I've bought from them a few times in the past and all was good.
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