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A six-month field test of the Leica Q by Craig Mod
Old 02-17-2016   #1
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A six-month field test of the Leica Q by Craig Mod

Craig Mod, one of my favourite writers, recently wrote an extensive six-month field test of the Leica Q:
Over these last six months, the Q joined me while on assignment in South Korea, trekking across Myanmar, hiking the mountains of Shikoku, and spending a few freezing nights on Mt. Kōya. It was used in searing heat, 100% humidity, covered in sweat amid rice fields beneath a relentless sun. And in subzero temples, as candlelit Shinto and Buddhist fire ceremonies ushered in a new year.
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Very good review, except obsession with iPhone.
Pictures are great as well.
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Really excellent review, and well written, too. Makes me want one, of course. Thanks!
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I want a Q! I need to create a kickstarter!
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I do too! That was a great review!
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The author does not bother to compare the Leica Q with any other similar camera...except for his beloved iPhone. Within a year or two this US$ 4,250 camera with it's fixed lens will have lost 50% of it's value? I'd rather invest in M mount lenses that hold their value better, Leica or otherwise.
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His "new found love" or whatever he called it about cropping strikes me as a bit amateurish. By all means, crop when you need to, but to get all excited about cropping?

Either way, a somewhat OK overview of using this camera.
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The author does not bother to compare the Leica Q with any other similar camera...except for his beloved iPhone. Within a year or two this US$ 4,250 camera with it's fixed lens will have lost 50% of it's value? I'd rather invest in M mount lenses that hold their value better, Leica or otherwise.
It's your cash, but it's not like for the $4250 (or half at $2125) it's not like you won't be using the thing and having fun with it... and you don't have to feed it film. If you're worried about things keeping value, photography equipment is not the right place to put your cash generally speaking. Depreciation vs. having fun using the camera? Not a bad price to pay.
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The author does not bother to compare the Leica Q with any other similar camera...except for his beloved iPhone. Within a year or two this US$ 4,250 camera with it's fixed lens will have lost 50% of it's value? I'd rather invest in M mount lenses that hold their value better, Leica or otherwise.
... or wait for the used Qs to to be sold at 1.000 USD to buy one
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The author's fondness of the iPhone is explained in this article he wrote for The New Yorker.

And, yes, he's aware he's contradicting himself as stated in the original article:
This camera lit me on fire. All the more potent taking into consideration my disavowment (in The New Yorker, no less) of cameras just a scant two years back. Two years ago the landscape felt dismal and the iPhone increasingly ó and excitingly ó formidable.
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I'm kind of sick of hearing about how the iPhone (yes, even the latest one) is comparable to m43, apsc, and FF. It's ridiculous. Is it ok quality? Yes... but lets be honest, people like the iPhone because of convenience and it being "good enough." I'm not a tech / specs geek, but anyone who uses all of these cameras clearly can see a difference. That said, the iPhone... as is any camera... is capable of allowing for great photos. Let's not even get into haptic and ergonomics.
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I'm kind of sick of hearing about how the iPhone (yes, even the latest one) is comparable to m43, apsc, and FF. It's ridiculous...
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Craig Mod, one of my favourite writers, recently wrote an extensive six-month field test of the Leica Q:
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Thanks for sharing interesting read. He is definitely enthusiastic about the Q.
I also like it very much and I am somehow mad that currently I don't get out and use mine more. I guess I might sell my M9 (new sensor) and just keep the Q for color and the MM.
I traded 3 film M's and some cash for the Q. I would have been hesitant to fork out that much when owning already 2 digital M's but having used the Q and seeing the quality of the files and the functionality, yes indeed, it's a great camera.
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The author does not bother to compare the Leica Q with any other similar camera...except for his beloved iPhone. Within a year or two this US$ 4,250 camera with it's fixed lens will have lost 50% of it's value? I'd rather invest in M mount lenses that hold their value better, Leica or otherwise.
From an investment point of view, you are 100% correct.
However, purchasing a camera or a lens involves much more than simply a monetary return on your investment. If you are seeking to maximize your ROI, then you should never buy cameras, cars, audio equipment, computer gear, fine watches, etc. They will all depreciate in value, some more than others.

I just "downgraded" from a used Leica M9 to a used Leica Q and couldn't be happier with my decision. This "downgrade" cost me about $700, which is mere pocket change because I used the M9 for two years and I plan to use the Q for at least that long or even longer.
The Leica Q is perfect for my needs: high quality optics, full frame sensor, complete automatic or manual controls, and enough pixels to crop to my heart's content. The Q has revitalized my photographic juices.
I still have all my M lenses from 18mm through 90mm, which I use on a Fuji X-E1 body, but now, I always grab the Q first.
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yum...looks Great, love the opening shot and the incense hand photo !
Me wants ONE toooooo...

Normally I don't like 28mm but when I shot with Ricoh's GRD 1, II, III I thoroughly enjoyed it
hmmmm. when I tried Icebear's~Klaus' Q at a Rff meetup I loved it
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fine to dislike the Q for a number of reason: fixed 28mm, EVF only, and so on. it's not for everyone, sure.

me, i likey. nails focus up (real) close wide open far far faster & more reliably than i can with a manual M. single point, multi-point, face detect - any way i want. like a GR except with a $4k lens. it's smile every time you pick it up, like craig mod says, that kind of shooting. not investment grade, crazoo fun grade. no confusion here.
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Just a question that jumps out to me whilst reading the review:

Can the touch screen be turned off?

I have cameras with touch screens and I always turn it off, don't need it don't want it.
If I can't turn it off, that's a complete dealbreaker for me.
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rear screen can be turned off, yes.
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Just a question that jumps out to me whilst reading the review:

Can the touch screen be turned off?

I have cameras with touch screens and I always turn it off, don't need it don't want it.
If I can't turn it off, that's a complete dealbreaker for me.
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The LCD can be turned off.
Also, if it is turned on, the touch screen can be disabled.
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The LCD can be turned off.
Also, if it is turned on, the touch screen can be disabled.
Thanks for clarifying that issue, I was wondering...
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Within a year or two this US$ 4,250 camera with it's fixed lens will have lost 50% of it's value?
I bought a new car last month, drove it out of the show room...boom!, lost $10,000 in value...lol...c'est la vie.
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......."The Q shoots only at 28mm. 28mm is pretty darn wide. And so Iíve found that in the last six months Iíve not only become a cropper, but I relish cropping. In fact, I even crop on the iPhone now, something Iíve never done before."

defeats the purpose, no?
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......."The Q shoots only at 28mm. 28mm is pretty darn wide. And so Iíve found that in the last six months Iíve not only become a cropper, but I relish cropping. In fact, I even crop on the iPhone now, something Iíve never done before."

defeats the purpose, no?
No, not really.
The purpose of photography is making excellent images.
When only one lens, a 28mm lens, is at hand, then sometimes cropping is necessary to enhance the final image.
Cropping overcomes the limitation of having only one lens.
The purpose, making excellent images, has not been defeated.
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Thanks for clarifying that issue, I was wondering...
Please see my edited answers to your question.
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What a beautiful image maker.
Man if only a longer focal length.
It's been written so many times by myself and others....Would really love a 40mm-50mm.

The Q might be the best digital camera Leica has come up with so far.
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The LCD can be turned off.
Also, if it is turned on, the touch screen can be disabled.
Thanks for the correction & clarification - the LCD can be turned off and the touch feature [edit: AF & AF+shutter activation via touch screen, specifically] can be disabled independently.

The Q is quite configurable, I think Leica got the interface pretty much right on this model, at least for me.

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What a beautiful image maker.
Man if only a longer focal length.
It's been written so many times by myself and others....Would really love a 40mm-50mm.

The Q might be the best digital camera Leica has come up with so far.
Yeah, a 50/1.7 Lux version of the Q would rock my bag. With the 28, sweet. I'd be done - M kit would be sold.

Agree - for me it recalls the little fixed lens film RF's from Canonet and Minolta that were so much fun.
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I'm kind of sick of hearing about how the iPhone (yes, even the latest one) is comparable to m43, apsc, and FF. It's ridiculous. Is it ok quality? Yes... but lets be honest, people like the iPhone because of convenience and it being "good enough." I'm not a tech / specs geek, but anyone who uses all of these cameras clearly can see a difference. That said, the iPhone... as is any camera... is capable of allowing for great photos. Let's not even get into haptic and ergonomics.
Couldn't agree more. Using ANY phone for photography is the most ****ty hobbled experience compared to any basic real camera. And despite how far phone cameras have come, the IQ is still ****.
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Leica has produced 40mm compacts in the film days. Would be really nice to see Q with 40/2 Summicron. Often 40mm FL lens can be made quite compact (not an optics expert here).
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The LCD can be turned off.
Also, if it is turned on, the touch screen can be disabled.
Sorry, just wanting to clarify here.

I have nothing against there being a rear screen on the camera, I just don't want it to be touch sensitive.

My understanding currently is that the screen can be used as a standard screen on a camera, composing (if using live view), review etc, AND that the touch functions of the screen can be disabled, so that it can be used like a regular "dumb" screen?
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Thanks for the correction & clarification - the LCD can be turned off and the touch feature can be disabled independently.

The Q is quite configurable, I think Leica got the interface pretty much right on this model, at least for me.
Thank you for clarifying, it's currently the only Leica product that appeals to me, but it appeals an awful lot.
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Tele lenses do not compress. They are exactly the same as any other lens used at the same spot, simply less area. The two can be overlaid perfectly if the wider lens is enlarged.
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What a beautiful image maker.
Man if only a longer focal length.
It's been written so many times by myself and others....Would really love a 40mm-50mm.

The Q might be the best digital camera Leica has come up with so far.
I wonder if there isn't a couple of auxiliary lenses in the near and expensive future.
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That seems very un-Leica-ish to me, but would be very handy!
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Sorry, just wanting to clarify here.

I have nothing against there being a rear screen on the camera, I just don't want it to be touch sensitive.

My understanding currently is that the screen can be used as a standard screen on a camera, composing (if using live view), review etc, AND that the touch functions of the screen can be disabled, so that it can be used like a regular "dumb" screen?
Hold on: the touch functions that can be disabled are AF and AF+shutter actuation. Can't make the touch screen completely "dumb" as far as I can tell.
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That seems very un-Leica-ish to me, but would be very handy!
Fuji got that one right, didn't they?
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Hold on: the touch functions that can be disabled are AF and AF+shutter actuation. Can't make the touch screen completely "dumb" as far as I can tell.
I have a Q and when I touch the screen NOTHING happens other than a fingerprint.
When I got it I read the manual (yeah, RTFM!), disabled the touch function and forgot about it. It's that easy.
You can customize it, if you want to use it, if you don't want touch screen functions you just disable it
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Once the Q has been configured to your own personal settings, it is a joy to use.
I have mine set as follows: single shot, one point AF, ISO floating up to 1600, slowest shutter speed 1/60, Auto WB. I always set the f/stop according to my desire to sharpen or blur the background. I compared the Q results with the M240 + 28/2.8 Elmarit and the Q's JPEGS are much better than those of the M240. RAW files are pretty much the same, but for my purposes the JPEGS out of the Q are more than adequate. YMMV.
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Klaus, live view touch screen can only be fully disabled when in manual mode. In auto mode, touch live view is enabled except that touch AF and touch shutter can be turned off specifically. In review/play mode touch screen is always functional.

If you know otherwise, please share where in the menu there is a "global" disable selection of the touch functions.
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I have a Q and when I touch the screen NOTHING happens other than a fingerprint.
When I got it I read the manual (yeah, RTFM!), disabled the touch function and forgot about it. It's that easy.
You can customize it, if you want to use it, if you don't want touch screen functions you just disable it
Thank you for the clarification.

Every touch screen on a camera I've used has been an absolute pain, and a guarantee that the settings won't be what I left them on when I took the last shot.
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