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Old 06-07-2011   #1
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Pre-war Leica glass, show your shots

A thread with shots made with uncoated or pre-war Leica glass. Looking forward to seeing those Summar, Elmar, Hektor, Elmax? shots!



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Old 06-07-2011   #2
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Hello, Greyelm & All, Here are a couple with a 1938 Summar. Amazing what that lens will do if you just ask it nicely... Best, David
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I don't own any pre-war Leica glass, and I haven't shot much w/ borrowed pre-war glass either, but I took this one a few years ago w/ an uncoated 90 Elmar from 1936 (I've posted this one before):

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Hektor 5cm at f/6.3 or so and Kodak NC400. Minimal levels adjustment. Posted in another thread before.

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IIIa and Summitar '37 or '38 from memory.



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Direwolf - is that HRH?
David - that Summitar image is lovely.
Erik - same goes for your Summarit image.
Thanks for sharing these.
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Which Leica lenses are "pre-war" ?

Summar and Elmar and ....
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50mm nickel Elmar 1932 on a 2010 m9


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Which Leica lenses are "pre-war" ?

Summar and Elmar and ....
... Hektors! 50/2.5, 73/1.9, 135/4.5.

Summar 50/2.0
Elmar 50/3.5
Elmar 90/4.0

And the ultra-rare very early Elmax 50/3.5, but I never saw any of those yet.
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Hi,

Summitar was April 1938 or 39 again from memory. I've advert's dated September 1939 announcing them and saying how much better it is that the Summar. Not the best time to announce a new Leica lens in England...

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PS I'll try and dig out some Summar uncoated ones.

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I found this link with serial number>date info. Not sure of the accuracy.

Elmar 35mm, scan from a print


Another one with the Elmar, scan from negative.


Summitar 50mm, scan from negative.


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The Leitz 5cm F1.5 Xenon is also pre-war.

The Summitar was introduced just before the war, as stated. It was introduced to improve use with color film, according to the Leica Manual by Morgan and Lester. I need to shoot the Nickel Summar on the M9, it has very clean glass. I end up using my Pre-war Zeiss glass with the M9 much more than the Leica glass.
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... Hektors! 50/2.5, 73/1.9, 135/4.5.

Summar 50/2.0
Elmar 50/3.5
Elmar 90/4.0

And the ultra-rare very early Elmax 50/3.5, but I never saw any of those yet.
Are some Elmar 90/4 post-war and some pre-war?
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Summitar 50.2 wide open


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The uncoated Black 90/4 Elmars are most likely pre-war. Like the one you (Raid) had.
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I sold the chrome Elmar but kept the black Elmar because it is older
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1938 Elmar 90mm f 4 uncoated - lenshead on a MicroVisoflex (shot in my garden two weeks ago when we had lots of sun here in Holland: both shots handheld) - btw the lens became very sharp and more contrasty after I got it dismantled and gave the lens parts a thorough cleaning (most of these lenses are quite cheap since they are hazy, but are easy to cleanup):



btw the below flower is only about 10mm in diameter...therefore not much bigger than the above insect

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That resizing script is coming very handy, but it still takes a while to load all those big photos.
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That resizing script is coming very handy, but it still takes a while to load all those big photos.
Point taken, but I guess for most of us that want to appreciate the qualities of (very) old glass, the rule is the bigger, the better
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Raid,

that seagull shot is absolutely hilarious! I keep imagining that those black birds over on the next pier are getting very nervous, being stared down in this psychological war
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1935 Leica II. 50mm nicks elmar from 1932. Kodak gold converted to B&W

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Direwolf - is that HRH?
David - that Summitar image is lovely.
Erik - same goes for your Summarit image.
Thanks for sharing these.
Lynnb, no that's not HRH, just a local WWII vintage vet! Thx.
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All with my Elmar 50 of 1936, on M2 & IIIc....


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Summar, expired Lucky 100 film, no.2 yellow filter

Cool photo. I shoot Lucky too--it's slightly less than $2.00 a roll of 36 here in Korea. I luv it and so does my Korean wife (a slight penny pincher). I'm gonna try it w/ my uncoated Summar and a yellow filter too.

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that seagull shot is absolutely hilarious! I keep imagining that those black birds over on the next pier are getting very nervous, being stared down in this psychological war

This fish market is one of my favorite places for photography in Pensacola, and there always many birds around. The "black birds" are pelicans, which are ... white.
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