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Nikon Treasures at Westlicht November 19th 2016
Old 11-16-2016   #1
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Nikon Treasures at Westlicht November 19th 2016

The auction this coming Saturday has more than its share of Nikon treasures.

Nikon One 60924 - the 3rd production Nikon per serial number, but perhaps the 2nd prototype body shell based upon internal numbers. \
I think its the earliest Nikon ever offered for public sale - a historical event to Nikon collectors! http://www.auction2000.se/auk/w.Obje...4_1608&inO=307

Nikon One 35mm Lens # 61230 - the 30th Nikon wideangle lens!
http://www.auction2000.se/auk/w.Obje...4_1608&inO=308

Nikon One 85mm Lens # 80163 the 63rd Nikon portrait lens!
http://www.auction2000.se/auk/w.Obje...4_1608&inO=309

Nikon One 35-135 finder
http://www.auction2000.se/auk/w.Obje...4_1608&inO=310

Unique Nikon SP Black Tri-Focal prototype
http://www.auction2000.se/auk/w.Obje...4_1608&inO=318

35mm Stereo lens outfit
http://www.auction2000.se/auk/w.Obje...4_1608&inO=326

BLACK 1000/6.3 Nikkor in Nikon RF mount - among the rarest Nikon lenses, rarer than the stereo lens
http://www.auction2000.se/auk/w.Obje...4_1608&inO=331

S36 Motor with super rare Sardine battery pack
http://www.auction2000.se/auk/w.Obje...4_1608&inO=334

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Amazing stuff.

Equally amazing prices, but historic clean stuff.

Thanks for the heads up.

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Thanks Stephen - interesting stuff. I especially like the concept of the trifocal SP
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How about this beauty?



547. Nikon F NASA *
extremely rare black anodized demonstration (DUMMY...
Condition: B/A
Year: c.1963
Serial No.: 10
Estimate € 30000-35000
Start price € 15.000*

It's the 15th year anniversary of Westlicht Camera Auction.
NHS member Peter Coeln seems to have pulled all of the rabbits out of his magic hat.

I KNOW who owned that trifocal SP, it's the man with many avatars!

He better come forward and speak before we make too much noise!

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I like that double strap Ever Ready case on the Nikon 1.
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I've not yet dabbled in the World of Nikon Rangefinder but, Christ! That's some mighty rare equipment. Certainly will make a real Collector happy. There's also some nice Leica stuff in there too, such as HCB's 35/2 Cron.
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How about this beauty?

Year: c.1963
Westlicht ought to back up that claim. By published data, the lens was not introduced until late 1965...
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307. Nikon One
The earliest known surviving production Nikon in t...
Condition: B+
Year: 1948
Serial No.: 60924
Hammer price (Incl. buyer's premium)
€ 384.000

Estimate
€ 160000-180000

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307. Nikon One
The earliest known surviving production Nikon in t...
Condition: B+
Year: 1948
Serial No.: 60924
Hammer price (Incl. buyer's premium)
€ 384.000

Estimate
€ 160000-180000

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hmm. I wonder if that is the wrong lens cap

or if that is a super early lens cap made before the bulbous lens cap
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I wonder if this one went for that much, how much the one we saw in Philly is worth?
The Philly camera had this number beat by 2

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I should have kept that trifocal, it almost doubled in price.

Then again, when I sold that camera, Apple was down around $15 a share.
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hmm. I wonder if that is the wrong lens cap

or if that is a super early lens cap made before the bulbous lens cap
It looks wrong, but the price displays how out of balance the world is from time to time.

Nikon collecting is on the wane, but prices for some items are very high.
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It looks wrong, but the price displays how out of balance the world is from time to time.

Nikon collecting is on the wane, but prices for some items are very high.
To me it looks like Nikon collecting WAS on the wane,
and its now experiencing a comeback with new collectors.

Nikon collectors are not like Leica collectors -
Nikon collectors don't gladly pay more as some sort of badge of honor.

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To me it looks like Nikon collecting WAS on the wane,
and its now experiencing a comeback with new collectors.

Nikon collectors are not like Leica collectors -
Nikon collectors don't gladly pay more as some sort of badge of honor.

Stephen
These buyers, of course, are a different kind of collector, we searched for cameras, the most I ever paid for a Nikon one was $9,000. And that seemed oddly lazy.

Not sure what to make of this. Obviously there are some deep pockets, for rare items.
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It would be interesting to see what country the winners and bidders come from.

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It would be interesting to see what country the winners and bidders come from.

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There are those among us who have so much money that they make this camera look like it sold for peanuts.

Two Qatari sisters were robbed north of Paris by masked men who took jewelry and other personal effects worth an estimated 5 million euros ($5.3 million), officials say. http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/22/europe...bed/index.html
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On October 3, American reality TV star Kim Kardashian West was tied up and robbed at gunpoint of an estimated $10 million worth of jewelry in a luxury private apartment in Paris' 8th Arrondissement by men dressed as police officers.
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Kiu, there are some of us who don't know what the Philly camera is. Could you give more information?

I have written Peter at Westlicht auctions several times about items described incorrectly in their catalogs. The only reply I've gotten is "thanks for the information". The listing is never changed. Westlicht claims to have experts doing the evaluations, but their experts are not that expert.
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60922 was put on the table after NHS-15 convention, we were allowed to photograph it and touch it but...the owner of 60922 did not want us to make too much noise about the camera(sorry, no pictures).
It is a very important camera to NHS, so the readers of NHS-133 journal got to see it as well, 60922 is presumably the first Nikon ever made to sell to public.
So if you want to know more or read about it, better subscribe to NHS journal.

I think Westlicht does a good job with their description, obviously it's geared towards advertising and selling the item. Consideration also has to be given for the volume they list, it's not easy listing 750 items and getting everything right.

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I should have kept that trifocal, it almost doubled in price.

Then again, when I sold that camera, Apple was down around $15 a share.
Is it better to have trifocal Nikon SP?
Is it better to have stock of Apple?

There is one Trifocal SP and 5.3 billion shares of Apple.

Hmmmmmmm.

I'll take the camera.

But then I may have to wait 50 years this time....
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Is it better to have trifocal Nikon SP?
Is it better to have stock of Apple?

There is one Trifocal SP and 5.3 billion shares of Apple.

Hmmmmmmm.

I'll take the camera.

But then I may have to wait 50 years this time....
I can't remember that sale, but let's assume about 2000 @ $15,000 which would be $5 a share (split adjusted) so the profit would have been -- 3000 x $111 or $333,000 invested in Apple.

$15,000 in 2000 would be $21,000 today.
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Westlicht Auction experts..
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Westlicht Auction experts..

A bit off topic: I bought a Leica M3 with collapsible Summicron at this november Westlicht Auction. I have mixed feelings about Westlicht Auction. Vulcanite fell of and the lens was not aligned. Positive: they picked it up and replaced the vulcanite and aligned the lens. They even did something on the shutter. Negative: now it appears to have a light leak which it didn't have in the first roll. The Leica IIIa I bought in the june 2016 Westlicht Auction had a spool stuck in it, and appears to have shutter problems at 1/60. I don't think they have a thorough expert quality control, or is that too rude to say...? From custom care I am literally told that they are selling antique, so no further help can be provided...
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