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Old 02-23-2017   #1
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x70 vs x100t?

far out thought just popped into my tiny brain...maybe get a small fuji for my next home visit and just carry it...no other heavy/large camera kit/bag!

it could work..

but i know little about the small fujis as i have not been paying attention to them...the x100f looks sharp but too pricey atm.

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I see quite a few X100T's have popped up used on B&H website. But they're still pretty pricey in the $900-1000 range.

Have you considered the older X100S? When I was shopping for a used X100 series, I compared the "S" to the "T" and found the extra features on the "T" offered no practical extra benefit to how I use my cameras. Thus, I bought a nearly new X100S for around $650. Prices seem to be more in the $700 range these days (again, at B&H).

The X100S has become my favorite Fuji of all (I own XP1 and XE2 bodies and about a half dozen Fujinon lenses). The built-in 35mm equivalent lens is excellent stopped down to f/4-5.6 and very good wide open at f/2 as long as you're not shooting close ups. But the way the camera handles and feels is sublime, in my opinion.

Then, of course, there's the Ricoh GRII alternative to the Fuji X70. Just to keep you busy with decisions. :-)
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i'll check out the s model...none available locally that i've seen yet.
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For a carry everywhere Fuji X camera my nod would have to go to the X70.

It's a full member of the X family and the size is very appealing. If you get stuck outside you can slide on a 28mm brightline and keep shooting.

I'm waiting till after the Apple March announcement to see if they upgrade the camera on the iPhone SE to that of the 7 or preferably 7 Plus (just need the wide/regular camera, but would accept a two camera solution happily) and go that way. My iPhone 5 is a bit long in the tooth and the camera has, well, developed focusing issues when it's not in bright light.

I had my sights set on the X70 for a while until my son get a 7 Plus. Way too big for my pockets, but love those cameras and software.

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The X100S is a fine choice and you can get them here in the states for about $400. By the way, I also see used X70's going for $500.

Add the WCL-X100 wide angle lens to the X100S and you've got a really nice 28mm camera with viewfinder.

I had the X70 for awhile. Its a great little camera, but it has the same problem with the LCD screen as any other... can't see it very well in bright sun. So the X100 series is a better choice (and what I've returned to).
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is $400. a price for a used one, jamie?
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far out thought just popped into my tiny brain...
I'd say let it pop right back out. Your XE1/2 are neither big nor heavy.

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there is always someone who wants to save my money for me...
i realize/d that i have xe1 and xe2 and small 27mm that would make for a small travel package...but it won't fit into a shirt pocket like the x100 series camera would.
actually, a sony rx100 series camera would fit even better...was looking at their version 3 and it looks fine.
thinking as a non photographer a good compact camera would do me well...might i miss my gear when i hit my destination? sure.
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actually, a sony rx100 series camera would fit even better...was looking at their version 3 and it looks fine.
I was just going to suggest that. IIRC, you used to have one, right? I love my v5 for everyday carry, or as my travel digicam to complement my ZI with 25/50 combo.
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there is always someone who wants to save my money for me...
i realize/d that i have xe1 and xe2 and small 27mm that would make for a small travel package...but it won't fit into a shirt pocket like the x100 series camera would.
actually, a sony rx100 series camera would fit even better...was looking at their version 3 and it looks fine.
thinking as a non photographer a good compact camera would do me well...might i miss my gear when i hit my destination? sure.
X100 won't fit in a shirt pocket, the lens is too deep. x70 would as would the RX100.

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How about the Panasonic TZ100/ZS100? It's a 1" sensor camera with 10X zoom and has an EVF.
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I agree the X100 series is not pocketable. Except for maybe a large coat pocket.

Again, I bring up the homely Ricoh GRII. Several websites have compared the GRII to the X70 with varying opinions. The most complete review of the two cameras I've seen is found at http://www.mirrorlesscomparison.com/.../x70-vs-gr-ii/. Both cameras got a lot of praise from the reviewer who offered a fair assessment.

For a pocketable camera, I chose the Ricoh over the Fuji despite my great love of Fuji's designs and handling. The main deciding factors for me were the better pocketability, the better image quality of the Ricoh 28mm equivalent lens and the ability to use the Ricoh with just one hand.
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i remember the fuji being smaller...i'll need to check it out at the store...for sheer pocketability and great images the sony rx100 series is hard to beat. i think i could borrow an original one from a buddy if needed...i like the model 3 in the lineup.
i don't mind just an lcd on the back but do prefer an evf if possible.
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If you're like me and use reading glasses, the finderless cameras are basically no fun to use.
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One word.... Viewfinder .

Therr have been x100T units at $700 second hand here and at FXF.

My choice has been to add the 27mm lens to an XE1 kit.
You have a pair of XE2's. Adding the 27 or 18 would be cheap. (I bought my 27 used for $175 in our classified.
It's not much larger than an x100 and of course you could sell the lenses later or just keep them around.
The Pancake lenses are very, very compact and useful on the XE1/2.
This would be my choice were I to make it.
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X100 series will not fit in a pocket. GR will. I prefer the Ricoh, but usually have it in a belt pouch. Camtec in Montreal currently has a used X100S for $725 Cdn.
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One word.... Viewfinder .

Therr have been x100T units at $700 second hand here and at FXF.

My choice has been to add the 27mm lens to an XE1 kit.
You have a pair of XE2's. Adding the 27 or 18 would be cheap. (I bought my 27 used for $175 in our classified.
It's not much larger than an x100 and of course you could sell the lenses later or just keep them around.
The Pancake lenses are very, very compact and useful on the XE1/2.
This would be my choice were I to make it.
i have a 27 now...it's on an xe1 and i take it out with me each morning.
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I've got the original x100, Ricoh GR and X70 to choose from. As for the X70 I think it's a great little camera. I've just got the WCL wide adapter for it as Guji are selling X70 accessories off at half price at the moment.
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i've thought about it and have decided that i have more than enough camera gear and will figure out what i'll pack when my trip gets closer...
instead i have decided to buy a new ipad pro!
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Did you get rid of the Panasonic LX3 Joe?
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Did you get rid of the Panasonic LX3 Joe?
i must have but i have no memory of what i did with it...
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is $400. a price for a used one, jamie?
Yes. Used. But these days, it seems there's not enough time elapsed between models to amount to much use.
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Joe,

You should definitely look at the Nikon DL's, the 18-50 would be perfect, 1" sensor, nice wide angle range, pocketable, ... oh wait.

As you can see from the camera size, you gain no pocketablility with these cameras over your XE+27. Maybe the Ricoh GR, otherwise you're about done I think. Sorry to try and save you money this time
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i just packed my bag with the 2 xe2 bodies and mated them with the 16 and the 56...i can do almost anything i normally do with these 2 lenses. i might throw the 27 in the front pocket to balance out the line up.
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Joe, don't overlook a used X-A1 with your 27mm on it.
I just picked up an E+ silver body for $149 + S&H. I love the thing (again!).
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i just packed my bag with the 2 xe2 bodies and mated them with the 16 and the 56...i can do almost anything i normally do with these 2 lenses. i might throw the 27 in the front pocket to balance out the line up.
Good decision. Use what you have and enjoy the trip.
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actually, a sony rx100 series camera would fit even better...was looking at their version 3 and it looks fine.
As a fellow Fuji user (X100F, X-Pro2, X-T2), this Sony is my only non Fuji. It is very good up to ISO 800 and is truly a nice travel camera.
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My two cents: I got an X70 last year to cover 28mm equivalent and to check out the Fuji sensor w/out having to spring for an X100 model. I have to say I'm impressed with this little camera. The jpegs with the chrome setting look really nice. The camera takes up little room in my bag, and covers indoor and color shots when I'm shooting slower bw film. Glad I bought the camera. Haven't decided whether to spring for an X100T when prices finally come down.
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For me, the x70 is a dealbreaker because of the lack of viewfinder, but even if I were ok without it, I prefer a 35mm fov over a 28mm fov.
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Joe, don't overlook a used X-A1 with your 27mm on it.
I just picked up an E+ silver body for $149 + S&H. I love the thing (again!).
Good point, or for those wanting a viewfinder an XE1 or XE2. I had a x100T but sold it to purchase the x100F. After thinking about it awhile I realized I preferred the 28mm FOV compared to 35mm so I canceled the x100F. I wanted a viewfinder so the x70 was out. Went with a used XE2 and will use the 18mm on it. A little deeper than the X100 series but the camera body is very close. I also have an adapted 35mm from a Minox 35 that makes the camera tiny and it fits in the same belt bag I kept the x100T in. If I find a good deal on the 27mm I may pick that up.

As a plus the XE2 is a better backup for my XP2 than the x100F would be too. And at dramatically less cost (than the xp2 or x100F) I'm more willing to bring it everywhere and get some wear and tear on it.

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