Grainy color film
Old 01-13-2020   #1
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Grainy color film

Looking for a super grainy and cheap color negative film. It seems like all the available asa 800 films are pretty pricey. Any recommendations?
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Old 01-13-2020   #2
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Push the film? Or underexpose in camera, develop as normal then compensate in printing.
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Old 01-13-2020   #3
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The modern 800 films aren't grainy. Not even Lomo 800 (which is made by Kodak apparently).
And... not cheap either. Not even Lomo.

Crazy thing is I now see expired film selling for more than fresh film. Which leads me to think I have a money making opportunity here..
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Old 01-13-2020   #4
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Probably better off adding grain in either printing and/or post processing.

Bernard Plossu shoots Fuji C200 and then gets the grain added in with the Fresson printing process. Check out Plossu’s colour work for super grainy colour
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Old 01-14-2020   #5
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Probably better off adding grain in either printing and/or post processing.

Bernard Plossu shoots Fuji C200 and then gets the grain added in with the Fresson printing process. Check out Plossuís colour work for super grainy colour
Just been looking at Bernard Plossu's work -wow!! He has quickly become one of my favourite photographers. Interestingly (to me at least) he used the 50mm lens for the majority of his work.
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Old 01-14-2020   #7
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Renowned French Photographer Bernard Plossu : The non-decisive moment

"You have never used big brand cameras like Leica for example. Have you ever been at a disadvantage because of it?"
Clearly that's where I went wrong... owning two Leicas. 😉
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Old 01-14-2020   #8
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You can get lots of grain from shooting subminiature formats. Try a Minolta 16II. Of course that would be very hands on, loading your own cartridges with film slit down from 35mm color negative film, you can get 3 rolls from one 36 exposure roll.
With a Minox 8x11 you can get 6-25 exposure rolls from 1 roll of 35mm 36x.
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Some interesting clips on YouTube on Bernard Plossu. In French. Cheers, OtL
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I have some old Konica slide film that I shot once and it was very very grainy, I think it can be even worse if you cross process it. It also had some emulsion issues though, had white spots randomly all over the images so I havent used it since. I think I have maybe 6 rolls somewhere, I'll see if I can find them. DM me if you want them.
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Old 01-14-2020   #11
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My limited experience pushing Portra 400 is that it will give you more grain. But it is not necessarily as attractive a grain as you might get from B&W films. For that reason I only did it once.
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Maybe the OP should give us an example of the look they are hoping to achieve.
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Also, the OP could think about using a half frame camera ...
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Old 01-15-2020   #14
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Why must all answers be BUY more equipment?
You want grain, use a wide angle lens, focus very carefully and crop!
Use a small area and enlarge to maximum!
Color negative "appears" grainy if underexposed.
Color film (today) almost grain free..
Use BW and do everything wrong! Reticulation, overexposure, over develop,
max. enlargement or best, add grain in Photoshop.
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Why must all answers be BUY more equipment?
You want grain, use a wide angle lens, focus very carefully and crop!
Use a small area and enlarge to maximum!
Color negative "appears" grainy if underexposed.
Color film (today) almost grain free..
Use BW and do everything wrong! Reticulation, overexposure, over develop,
max. enlargement or best, add grain in Photoshop.
I think my suggestion to buy a half frame is just as valid as you saying use a wide angle. Perhaps he doesn’t own a wide angle... and let’s be honest here, none of us told him to buy something expensive. They are tools and sometimes tools are necessary. If anything, the Fresson process could be the most expensive option here.
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@1x Magazine
Renowned French Photographer Bernard Plossu : The non-decisive moment

"You have never used big brand cameras like Leica for example. Have you ever been at a disadvantage because of it?"

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When I could have afforded a Leica, I preferred to buy a plane ticket to travel to faraway places! No need at all for a Leica. What for?

We must find this heretic and burn him at the stake at once!
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Old 01-15-2020   #17
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The Kodacolor Gold 400 color negative film had some very visible grain even when properly exposed at 400.

It was discontinued in 1997, but you can still find some on eBay. For cheap ? Hmmm.

You will then combine the advantages of the heavy grain with those of the long-time expired color films...
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It was discontinued in 1997, but you can still find some on eBay. For cheap ? Hmmm.
No such thing as cheap expired film anymore. It now costs more than fresh stuff with expired being seen as desirable!
Glad I stocked up when the going was good.

Buy the cheapest regular film you can buy. Put it on the dashboard of your car for a few days so it gets nice n hot. Underexpose. Enjoy the grain.
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Old 01-17-2020   #19
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Is there anything similar to that the Fresson printing process? It produces a very interesting effect.
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Go to your local camera show, you may find some very expired films at reasonable prices.
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Just been looking at Bernard Plossu's work -wow!! He has quickly become one of my favourite photographers. Interestingly (to me at least) he used the 50mm lens for the majority of his work.
He's my favourite photographer along with Sergio Larrain. There's something poetic about the photos that they take.
Whenever I get stuck in a rut I turn to those two to get my creative juices flowing.
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Old 01-17-2020   #22
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From all of the color film I've shot the only one that I would consider noticeably grainy is Ultramax. Buy some of that, push it a stop or two and say goodbye to fine details.
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