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CameraQuest 10-21-2016 10:29

New Version Voigtlander 58mm f/1.4 IN STOCK & SHIPPING
 
The new retro style version 58/1.4 Nokton's styled similar to the classic Nikkors of the 1960's is in stock and shipping.
They are beautifully made like classic collectible lenses.









The image quality of the Nokton 58mm is exceptional, probably the best normal lens 1.4 in Nikon F mount ever produced.
Besides cosmetics, this new version adds a NAI metering prong for even the oldest Nikon SLR meters in addition to AIS metering and being chipped for digital Nikons DSLRs.

These new versions also have a smaller 52mm filter size (previous 58mm).

IN STOCK AND SHIPPING
$599 with free next day shipping to most lower 48 locations.
Black/Chrome Version Black Version

Thanks for looking,

Stephen

Tom A 10-21-2016 11:18


Voigtlander Nokton 58mm f1.4 Retro look by T&T and Mr B Abrahamsson, on Flickr
Got mine last week. Looking the part, thats for sure. Image quality promises to be rally top notch. It is the same formula as the older version of the 58mm f1.4 from a couple of years ago.

Erik van Straten 10-21-2016 11:24

Is there a nice hood with the lens? Usually that is Voigtländers weak point.

Erik.

Tom A 10-21-2016 11:32

Eric, there is a nifty screw-in hood. Advantage is that it stays in place and doesn't fall off like the clip on Nikkor ones. A major advantage is that it will also work on the old 58mm f1.4 or any other Nikkor 50mm lens with 52mm thread. I had an original hood for the Nikkor 58mm f1.4 - but it fell off and rolled into the sea!!!!!!

Tom A 10-21-2016 11:40


Voigtlander Nokton 58mm f1.4 retro look by T&T and Mr B Abrahamsson, on Flickr

The new Nokton 58mm f1.4 at f1.4 and closest focus. The focus is on the K in Knausgård. Shot with Sony A7.

Erik van Straten 10-21-2016 12:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom A (Post 2659653)
I had an original hood for the Nikkor 58mm f1.4 - but it fell off and rolled into the sea!!!!!!

That is why I use screw-in shades on my Nikkors since 1971!

On the Nikkor-H Auto 50mm 1:2 f=50mm - a very nice lens - I do not use a shade at all as the glass elements are deeply recessed into the mount.

Erik.

Huss 10-21-2016 12:52

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Originally Posted by Tom A (Post 2659648)
Ot is the same formula as the older version of the 58mm f1.4 from a couple of years ago.

Is the front element size the same, even though they went from a 58mm filter thread to 52mm?
I'm wondering if that reduction would cause vignetting.

Gorgeous lens.

Huss 10-21-2016 12:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom A (Post 2659653)
Eric, there is a nifty screw-in hood.

Does it come with the lens, or has to be purchased separately?

Tom A 10-21-2016 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huss (Post 2659684)
Does it come with the lens, or has to be purchased separately?

I don't know if it is included with the lens here. Check with Stephen on that.

LarsAC 10-21-2016 14:24

Has the optical design been changed from the former version ?

Lars

Huss 10-21-2016 14:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by LarsAC (Post 2659715)
Has the optical design been changed from the former version ?

Lars


"Same lens construction as previous Voigtlander 58mm F1.4 SLIIN"

Not sure if lens construction = optical design

eric4 10-21-2016 14:37

Will it be released in Pentax K mount too?

xayraa33 10-21-2016 14:44

Odd that the image quality of a Cosina Voigtlander designed and made product tops a legendary optical firm that gave us the famous 5cm f1.4 lens in S and LTM mount and the spectacular 105mm f2.5 lens that came in S LTM and F mount.

CameraQuest 10-21-2016 14:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by xayraa33 (Post 2659719)
Odd that the image quality of a Cosina Voigtlander designed and made product tops a legendary optical firm that gave us the famous 5cm f1.4 lens in S and LTM mount and the spectacular 105mm f2.5 lens that came in S LTM and F mount.

it does, try it.
specifically I am saying the Voigtlander 58/1.4 is better than any other normal Nikon F mount (50-58mm) f/1.4 lens. Not f/2, not other mounts, not other focal lengths. Generally it will be true.

No Pentax K mount - all the K mount SL lenses are discontinued. Unfortunately no EOS mount or Sony E mount or M mount either, but I keep hoping.

The hood is separate at $59 (same price as previous version)

Stephen

xayraa33 10-21-2016 15:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by CameraQuest (Post 2659721)
it does, try it.
specifically I am saying the Voigtlander 58/1.4 is better than any other normal Nikon F mount (50-58mm) f/1.4 lens. Not f/2, not other mounts, not other focal lengths. Generally it will be true.

No Pentax K mount - all the K mount SL lenses are discontinued. Unfortunately no EOS mount or Sony E mount or M mount either, but I keep hoping.

The hood is separate at $59 (same price as previous version)

Stephen

CV does make some fantastic lenses, maybe the torch has been passed and now its in the hands of this vibrant firm. It will only get better and better with each passing year.

maryland_fotos 10-21-2016 15:37

Sweeeet looking lens! Would rather have that than the plasticky 50 1.8 that came with my Df.

AlwaysOnAuto 10-21-2016 15:49

So how does this new lens compare to the Minolta 58mm f1.4?

Or is that like comparing apples to kumquats?

Tom A 10-21-2016 17:03


The screw-in hood and the lens cap for the Nokton 58mm f1.4. by T&T and Mr B Abrahamsson, on Flickr

This is for Eric. The hood for the Nokton 58mm f1.4. Simple, straight sided and screw in. The cap slides over the hood and is incidentally, the same cap as is used on the Heliar Hyper Wide 10mm f5.6

helenhill 10-21-2016 17:05

Great Looking Lens !!
look forward to seeing what it can do

CMur12 10-21-2016 17:13

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Originally Posted by AlwaysOnAuto (Post 2659728)
So how does this new lens compare to the Minolta 58mm f1.4?

Or is that like comparing apples to kumquats?

The Minolta 58mm f1.4 was a 6-element design, which is unusual in a normal lens this fast. My guess is that it is not as well corrected and sharp as the CV lens, though it may have other favorable rendering characteristics.

- Murray

Tom A 10-25-2016 13:23


H 332 #11 Halloween - I hope. by T&T and Mr B Abrahamsson, on Flickr

First roll out of a F (74xxxxx) with the Nokton 58mm f1.4. Kodak Double X in Pyrocat HD.
Nice tonality and more than sharp enough. If my memory serves me right it was at f2.8 or thereabouts.

Huss 10-25-2016 14:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by xayraa33 (Post 2659719)
Odd that the image quality of a Cosina Voigtlander designed and made product tops a legendary optical firm that gave us the famous 5cm f1.4 lens in S and LTM mount and the spectacular 105mm f2.5 lens that came in S LTM and F mount.

Not really. It all comes down to placement in the market. If they make cheap lenses, then the quality won't be so good.

Perfect example is Sigma. They used to make low end budget lenses back in the 80's, 90's etc.
Now their Art series lenses beat the equivalent Nikons optically, and are almost as good as the vaunted Zeiss Otus lenses for much less money.
Sigma decided to move up market. It's the same as what Cosina is doing with its Voigtlander and Zeiss lenses.

xayraa33 10-25-2016 14:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huss (Post 2660809)
Not really. It all comes down to placement in the market. If they make cheap lenses, then the quality won't be so good.

Perfect example is Sigma. They used to make low end budget lenses back in the 80's, 90's etc.
Now their Art series lenses beat the equivalent Nikons optically, and are almost as good as the vaunted Zeiss Otus lenses for much less money.
Sigma decided to move up market. It's the same as what Cosina is doing with its Voigtlander and Zeiss lenses.

Yes, I am aware of all that, Zeiss have always been top shelf primo lenses even in the DDR made lineup when compared to other DDR made lenses.

I got a fast 200mm lens that I bought for use when I was shooting for my High School's yearbook, sports and stage plays and R'n R band concerts (so long ago that I have a hard time remembering it all) and this Sigma made lens was nothing to write home about. I still am prejudiced against Sigma made optics to this very day.

Huss 10-25-2016 16:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by radi(c)al_cam (Post 2660826)
Sorry, that's utter nonsense.
Would Leica have allowed Sigma to make lenses for the Leica R — some nine Sigmas, and two Vario-Elmar-R [!]— if they haven't been very good?


Don't be sorry. The lenses Sigma made for Leica were at a completely different price point and quality level than what Sigma was making for the general public back then.

Huss 10-25-2016 16:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by xayraa33 (Post 2659719)
Odd that the image quality of a Cosina Voigtlander designed and made product tops a legendary optical firm....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huss (Post 2660809)
Not really. It all comes down to placement in the market. If they make cheap lenses, then the quality won't be so good.

Perfect example is Sigma. They used to make low end budget lenses back in the 80's, 90's etc.
Now their Art series lenses beat the equivalent Nikons optically, and are almost as good as the vaunted Zeiss Otus lenses for much less money.
Sigma decided to move up market. It's the same as what Cosina is doing with its Voigtlander and Zeiss lenses.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xayraa33 (Post 2660811)
Yes, I am aware of all that...

Then what do you find odd?

Keith 10-25-2016 16:53

Should be a great portrait lens ... and very reasonably priced in my opinion.

xayraa33 10-25-2016 17:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huss (Post 2660844)
Then what do you find odd?

I still find it odd because I still associate third tier lens makers with still making third tier lenses and not out doing the big boys.

It is ingrained perception formed many decades ago when it was truer then it is now.

Cosina was Argus Cosina in the 1970s and not Voigtlander, certainly not Carl Zeiss ... and Sigma was a little better than Asanuma and house brands like Hanimex and Spiratone and maybe an equal of house brand Vivitar pre series 1, nothing more.

It is as simple as that really.

Huss 10-25-2016 17:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by xayraa33 (Post 2660856)
I still find it odd because I still associate third tier lens makers with still making third tier lenses and not out doing the big boys.

It is ingrained perception formed many decades ago when it was truer then it is now.

Ok I get that. In my camera bag here at work I have a D750 with a 50 1.8G, and the Cosina Zeiss 35 f2 lens. The Nikon 50 1.8G feels like a featherweight disposable piece of plastic in comparison to the Cosina lens.
Optically they are both excellent, with the Cosina Zeiss being a knock out lens.
Times have changed.

xayraa33 10-25-2016 17:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huss (Post 2660859)
Ok I get that. In my camera bag here at work I have a D750 with a 50 1.8G, and the Cosina Zeiss 35 f2 lens. The Nikon 50 1.8G feels like a featherweight disposable piece of plastic in comparison to the Cosina lens.
Optically they are both excellent, with the Cosina Zeiss being a knock out lens.
Times have changed.

Zeiss will always have optics makers like Kyocera or Cosina or anyone else make their Zeiss lenses to Zeiss designs, Zeiss specs and Zeiss standards.

Robert Lai 10-25-2016 19:28

I found the version II of the 58mm f/1.4 to be so good, especially wide open, that I got rid of my Nikon 50mm lenses. That included the 50mm 1.2 AIS (too much barrel distortion), and a 50mm 1.8 AI. The latter was pretty good, but it has lower contrast wide open compared to the Voigtlander, and the Nikon 1.8 has noticeable barrel distortion when not at infinity. The only Nikon 50mm that I kept was the f/2.8 AIS Micro.

The only thing lacking on version II was the meter coupling prong to mate with my FTN meter on my F. It looks like the new version is the answer to my problem.

As far as quality of construction goes, I see nothing in the version II to indicate that the construction was anything less than first class. It is ALL solid metal and glass. No plastic that I can see.

Keith 10-25-2016 19:38

Sweet lens for a DF! :)

Daryl J. 10-25-2016 20:44

I'll keep this lens in mind. I use a 55mm F3.5 MicroNikkor mostly and have for some reason shied away from fast 50's from Nikon.

ironhorse 10-26-2016 05:50

I was disappointed with every Sigma and Tokina lens that I purchase for my Nikons back in the 1980's. Decided to use only Nikon lenses since then for my SLRs. Perhaps it's time to reconsider.

CameraQuest 11-04-2016 11:43

New Pics put up,
lenses now in stock and shipping.

Stephen

jarski 11-04-2016 13:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by CameraQuest (Post 2663696)
New Pics put up,
lenses now in stock and shipping.

Stephen

Cool looking lens. Reminds me pre-ai 55/1.2 Nikkor

SaveKodak 11-04-2016 13:39

This guy plus the Techart AF adapter would be a dream on an A7RII.

robert blu 11-05-2016 06:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith (Post 2660877)
Sweet lens for a DF! :)

i think so...but should I buy first the lens or first the DF ? :)

robert

PS: I think it's a great lens for my FM2...now

LarsAC 11-08-2016 13:11

35 / f2, 58 / f1.4, 105 / f2.5 - three great lenses and only one set of filters - how nice.

Lars


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