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NB23 05-20-2008 22:32

M8 shots
 
I'm starting to get the hang of the M8's files.
Jpegs are crap but the RAW files are outstanding!

It will take some time to shoot the M8 just like I do with M film cameras but I feel I'm getting there.




You can relate to what I said? If yes, then please post your M8 shots :)

jaapv 05-21-2008 02:43

You are limiting yourself if you shoot your M8 "just like your film M's" one of the great advantages of digital that it has returned you darkroom to you-and more. High dynamic range, selective sharpening and selective coulour are but a few options to take your work to a new level. :)

NB23 05-21-2008 16:52

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Originally Posted by jaapv (Post 822578)
You are limiting yourself if you shoot your M8 "just like your film M's" one of the great advantages of digital that it has returned you darkroom to you-and more. High dynamic range, selective sharpening and selective coulour are but a few options to take your work to a new level. :)

The purpose of the M8, in my case, is to go back to the shooting experience just like with film (which I prefer to digital, anytime!). See with the heart, aim, capture.

For anythng else, I have my Nikon iDiot system ;)

jaapv 05-22-2008 06:06

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Originally Posted by NB23 (Post 823081)
The purpose of the M8, in my case, is to go back to the shooting experience just like with film (which I prefer to digital, anytime!). See with the heart, aim, capture.

For anythng else, I have my Nikon iDiot system ;)

You left half of it out: Off to the darkroom. Or did youuse a 24 hour lab. No? In the digital age that means put in computer time post-processing and hone your skills. Of course, as you say, there are automated cameras out there, most of them in fact, that will do the thinking for you in this respect...

NB23 05-22-2008 09:47

By no means a masterpiece. Just a simple shot I had fun while shooting in a film way without chimping, by zone focusing and not really caring for the digital side of things.

Yes, the downsizing caused the jags and shooting at f8 Caused the dirt to show... The usual suspects. I won't go crazy over that :)

NB23 05-22-2008 10:22

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Now we're very far from my original intention of just having people post and talk about the film-like shooting sensation of the M8.

For the peepers and criticizers;
Here's the scene I was confronted to. As you can see, not much play composition wise. The shot I originally posted was underexposed due to the sky and I took care of the rest in PP to give it a twist it lacked.

I'm not sure what would you guys do in this case? Here's the original scene, uncropped of course.

Let's discuss. And Pitxu, your artistic vision is welcome. Don't let us down now.

NB23 05-22-2008 11:00

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Originally Posted by Highway 61 (Post 823498)
I wouldn't allow myself a harsh downsizing if I intented to post the picture on the Internet.

You must have a very dirty sensor. I shoot at f/8 and f/11 with my DSLR quite often and I never get that myriad of dust spots to cover an even blue sky. I have to stop down at f/22 to see them, and they're not that numerous.

I allow myself harsh downsizing because, obviously, this is not a money shot, it is not intended to a royal crowd of any sort and usually doesn't bother people. I allow this to myself because photography goes beyond a dust in the sky and a jag in an ugly phone line.

I have to say I'm astounded at the unconstructive pickiness, especially this being RFF.

NB23 05-22-2008 11:12

Here's another M8 shot of mine which I find appealing. This is my favorite missed shot so far.

Pichou, I miss you. Come back... I want your expert presence.


ferider 05-22-2008 11:53

How about this:



:)

CameraQuest 05-22-2008 12:19

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Originally Posted by NB23 (Post 822471)
I'm starting to get the hang of the M8's files.
Jpegs are crap but the RAW files are outstanding!

It will take some time to shoot the M8 just like I do with M film cameras but I feel I'm getting there.

You can relate to what I said? If yes, then please post your M8 shots :)

Very funny Ned.

So you are posting your worst M8 shots (if they really are M8), saying how much you like them,

just daring someone to say the truth, ie "The Emperor has no clothes."

OK Ned. The two shots you posted in the thread are remarkable only in being so ordinary. If that is the best you can do with the M8, time to sell the M8 and go back to film.

Stephen

nightlight 05-22-2008 12:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by NB23 (Post 822471)
I'm starting to get the hang of the M8's files.
Jpegs are crap but the RAW files are outstanding!

It will take some time to shoot the M8 just like I do with M film cameras but I feel I'm getting there.

You can relate to what I said? If yes, then please post your M8 shots :)


I can't relate to that not having an M8 but I understand you have a Noctilux - have you tried the M8 with that? I would be interested to see some samples please, whether B/W or Colour, if you have some at hand of course.

thank you
clarel

NB23 05-22-2008 16:47

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Originally Posted by CameraQuest (Post 823569)
Very funny Ned.

So you are posting your worst M8 shots (if they really are M8), saying how much you like them,

just daring someone to say the truth, ie "The Emperor has no clothes."

OK Ned. The two shots you posted in the thread are remarkable only in being so ordinary. If that is the best you can do with the M8, time to sell the M8 and go back to film.

Stephen

Are you saying film is for creating ordinary images and digital for more then ordinary images?

No Stephen. I enjoy shooting the M8 for its simpleness. I was only trying to stir a conversation.

As we all know, shooting film and shooting digital are entirely different. Different philosophies. I thought it would be interesting to know what people think about it. How they shoot theirs. Are they after exactness such a DSLR or are they persuing a more liberal approach, the rangefinder way?

But if you insist that people only post extraordinary images in your forum, I'm afraid you'd end up with no participants.

NB23 05-23-2008 07:21

I like my the first shot and this is why I posted it. It's strictly my taste so I can't talk for others. I also like the second shot which is, like I already said, my best M8 missed shot so far.
I'm not sure what happened in this thread, including me, but I have to thank Stephen Gandy for letting us express ourselves. This is a very cool place after all.

NB23 05-25-2008 23:21

Another from the same day... same kinda shooting-while-driving stuff.

tomasis 05-26-2008 01:25

heh one can always do shoot m8 while driving :D wonderful colors btw. due to your pp, it looks more like film. good work :D

NB23 05-26-2008 23:13

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Originally Posted by tomasis (Post 825372)
heh one can always do shoot m8 while driving :D wonderful colors btw. due to your pp, it looks more like film. good work :D

More like film, huh? ;)

Here's another one...

tomasis 05-27-2008 07:43

Ned, this one too. I guess that one who did get used with the color film look, can always create that look in digital PP without much hassle. But it becomes much trickier with such images when you shot at day time like your two first pictures so all depends on objects btw. You have push so much contrast that almost only mid tones are left. It is what we have to deal with linear curve. But M8 would be awesome at gray, rainy weather, lol

Joshua 05-28-2008 15:34

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Originally Posted by NB23 (Post 826651)
Kevin and jaapv clearly misread my post where I make it a point to shoot the M8 like film and where I prefer skipping the process. At least when the M8 is implied.

Getting lectured on something that is NOT the subject of this post (and on something that is my job) did, indeed, upset me.

Lol, they didn't miss it ... they just clarified that shooting like film still involves post-processing. Its called the darkroom. If you're gonna cross-analogy the two worlds, then at least include all the steps.

This thread is fantastic ... I loved it.

NB23 05-28-2008 15:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua (Post 826877)
Lol, they didn't miss it ... they just clarified that shooting like film still involves post-processing. Its called the darkroom. If you're gonna cross-analogy the two worlds, then at least include all the steps.

This thread is fantastic ... I loved it.

It's called the lightroom, right? Darkroom is for negatives.

But what's the problem with my first pic? A dust in the sky? Jags in a downsized picture? Really worth going Anal?

NB23 05-31-2008 10:44

New stuff, just having fun...






Jodorowsky 05-31-2008 12:31

Jaap V; I clicked on your link- your 'bird and cloud' shot is wonderful.

Jodorowsky 05-31-2008 12:33

Erik5; I'm taking my hat off to you; they're lovely.

NB23 05-31-2008 14:34

Great stuff erik... You should post more often

NB23 05-31-2008 15:01

Yeah, unhealthy place for sure. It's in a car bodyshop and those guys are always smoking and drunk or so they seem to be (maybe because of the fumes?)... But it's always fun to visit them, the "real people"...

NB23 05-31-2008 15:11

I think it's dust mixed with fluo lighting... which makes green... But yeah, it's toxic.

jbf 06-01-2008 20:38

Some great shots there Erik! Quite a few new ones i havnt seen! :D

maddoc 06-01-2008 20:48

Lots of really good photos here !! I really enjoyed watching these :) Keep posting guys !!

ali_baba 06-06-2008 19:57























those are some fav's.
i just wish ISO's over 640 were more useful.
now i just need to find a nocti.

NB23 06-14-2008 17:37

"First things, first!"


crawdiddy 06-14-2008 18:48

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Originally Posted by NB23 (Post 825874)
More like film, huh? ;)

Here's another one...

Obviously from the land of maple syrup to the North.

NB23 06-15-2008 15:17

Balls to Pink Floyd

Someone is talking against you, giving you a spell, a head is falling from the sky ready to be cut, Yelling over your head, someone eating a bicycle rider, head in the Sky, Big Brother


NB23 06-15-2008 18:44

Voodoo Curse


maddoc 06-15-2008 18:54

@ ali_baba: Some really good stuff ! I like #4 for the perspective !

@ Ned: "Balls to Pink Floyd" and "Voodoo Curse" are great ! It seems the M8 became your favorite camera now ? :cool::)

NB23 06-15-2008 19:30

Hi Doc!

No... Just getting acquainted. I prefer the M4-P and M7. But the more I use the M8, the more I'm getting the M feeling (still hate the shutter, though!).

ali_baba 06-15-2008 22:53

Doc: Thanks!
Ned: I like voodoo curse very much!

I find that the AE mode gives me decent results 1/2 of the time, it works well with holding the button down while running it across the frame, then it adjusts accordingly. is this the first M to do this? or did the m7 do this as well?

NB23 06-15-2008 23:30

hallucination Leper Messiah


victoriapio 07-11-2008 21:21

Mind the gap
 
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London underground - two weeks ago


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