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gzisis69 02-09-2018 03:31

Ricoh GR III?
 
hello, im looking to buy a small pocketable camera and im wondering if ricoh is going to anounce a new model soon ?

nightfly 02-09-2018 06:25

Have no idea if a III is coming but I've owned the I and the II and they were pretty much identical. I think they added WiFi which I never use but otherwise I can't tell the difference.

Really good cameras. Wouldn't hesitate to buy. Poke around the rumors sites to see if anything may be coming.

nightfly 02-09-2018 08:06

Only rumors I've seen seem fairly far fetched:

https://pentaxrumors.com/2018/01/03/...camera-rumors/

Full frame, curved sensor, blah blah

I'd buy one in a heartbeat but I woudn't hold my breath waiting.

I sold my first one, tried a Fuji XE-2 with their 17mm lens for awhile, hated it (the usage not the photos) and bought a GR II back.

BillBingham2 02-09-2018 08:26

If I were looking for a pocket camera I'd add the Fuji X-70 to the list. The lens does not collapse into the body but it still is very small.

B2 (;->

JeffS7444 02-09-2018 08:59

If you're not in a hurry, why not wait until March when CP+ is underway? If a new GR is about to be released, we'll probably hear about it then.

http://www.cpplus.jp/en/

nukecoke 02-09-2018 09:58

For pants pocket the GR I and III are a bit too big. The older GRD series fits better in pants pocket.

gzisis69 02-09-2018 11:13

i dont want an old camera. if im going to buy an old model with small sensor i can keep my iphone.

lawnpotter 02-09-2018 11:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by gzisis69 (Post 2788424)
i dont want an old camera. if im going to buy an old model with small sensor i can keep my iphone.

The original GRD had a look in black and white that many people liked

nukecoke 02-09-2018 11:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by gzisis69 (Post 2788424)
i dont want an old camera. if im going to buy an old model with small sensor i can keep my iphone.

Yes. Well to me the selling point of GR series was never image quality, but the excellent control and customization, which no phone nor the most of other cameras in the same tier can match. I bought my GRD IV last year and I really like it and bring it everywhere. I wish the APS GRs can be smaller but you can't have it all.

SJACPHOTO 05-13-2018 20:22

When it comes to compact cameras, You are not doing anything wrong with the Ricoh GR II.

It is very small and yet features an APS-C sensor with excellent image quality for the price. Since You are looking for a compact camera I guess You are also fine without a viewfinder.

kshapero 07-16-2018 19:31

Played with the Ricoh GRii. Wish I had one.

Dogman 07-17-2018 03:49

According to the rumor sites, a new GR is coming in September. No real info on what to expect on specifications. Fact is, the GR is such a mature product it's gonna be hard to top what it already is. You start adding features, you probably have to increase the real estate to accommodate the additions thus making it less pocketable. Adding a 24MP sensor is probably a sure thing but that probably won't improve image quality a lot over the 16MP already used.

I do hope Ricoh seals the camera better against dust. I've not had any issues with mine but complaints about dust on the sensor are common.

Archlich 07-17-2018 04:03

Won't hurt if they put weather sealing and contemporary AF capability in the new camera. The original could barely focus on it own in subdued light.

BillBingham2 07-17-2018 07:07

Weather seal and dust are the only two negatives I can think of that make me lean towards the X-70. Frankly the iPhone 7 with the right software is looking just as good right now. Bit bigger in one direction, but it a phone, I have to carry a phone.....

B2 (;->

shawn 07-17-2018 07:25

Won't happen but a GRIII (or X80) without the LCD but with an EVF (or optical VF) would be awesome. I like the actual lens cap on the x70 too, the automatic lens covers don't seem as reliable.

Shawn

nightfly 07-17-2018 07:37

Would love a full frame GR but not holding my breath.

Been using my GR II more and more lately and am very happy with the results. Haven't taken my M9 out in awhile, it's starting to feel neglected.

I don't really think cellphone, even the best ones are remotely comparable. The difference in sensor size and quality is night and day if you are printing or viewing at greater than instagram sizes.

BillBingham2 07-17-2018 09:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by nightfly (Post 2822531)
........I don't really think cellphone, even the best ones are remotely comparable. The difference in sensor size and quality is night and day if you are printing or viewing at greater than instagram sizes.

Perhaps that's my problem, Instagram sized expectations.

I'm not suggesting that if I went out specifically to take pictures that a good cellphone would be my first choice. I look at this style camera as an every day carry almost everywhere camera. Nick has presented the idea that we should go full frame, everything else is, less.

Frankly I'm ok with less than perfect glass. I prefer good Nikkors and they way they paint. I love the Skopar-Snap-Shot 25 from CV. They may not have more than Instagram specs, to me, that's ok.

B2 (;->

KEVIN-XU 愛 forever 07-17-2018 09:20

Let's wait for this year's Photokina event. Rumors are saying that Ricoh would officially announce the new generation of their GR line. And Ricoh also set up a new fans website about GR. You can find it online.

I will definitely buy one if they do announce GR III. Would be great if it has a full frame sensor but the price will increase a lot though.

13Promet 07-17-2018 09:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archlich (Post 2822479)
Won't hurt if they put weather sealing and contemporary AF capability in the new camera. The original could barely focus on it own in subdued light.

+1
Missed opportunities due to wrong focussing is my only complaint about an otherwise perfect image-making machine.

Dogman 07-17-2018 12:37

Of course you can buy a GR today with with all those "wish" features--EVF, full frame sensor, tilting back and a choice of focal lengths. It's called the Sony A7.

You add all that junk to the GR and it's no longer a GR.

BillBingham2 07-17-2018 13:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogman (Post 2822587)
Of course you can buy a GR today with with all those "wish" features--EVF, full frame sensor, tilting back and a choice of focal lengths. It's called the Sony A7.

You add all that junk to the GR and it's no longer a GR.

Might also be a Sony RX100 Mark something or other.....

But in general, could not agree with you more. Keep it simple, small, weatherproof it and fix the dust issue (odds are at the same time).

Perhaps better low-light focusing/IQ, but other than that don't look to add functionality. I'm very happy with my CV 28mm finder that sat on top of mine until it died. Don't need any film emulations, tilting back as it will mess with size and reliability.

B2 (;->

helenhill 07-17-2018 14:17

Life is too short... Get it now and Enjoy ... I did !

BillBingham2 07-17-2018 14:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by helenhill (Post 2822618)
Life is too short... Get it now and Enjoy ... I did !

Helen, you, the Queen of Normal .........Lenses that is :eek:

I'm not surprised, they are that much fun.

Hope all.

B2 (;->

Landberg 07-17-2018 15:08

I bought my 4th GRI/GRII (one got stolen, two broke and the 4th i lost). Best digital i jave ever used. If the GRIII comes i will buy that to. But i wont sell my GRII.

helenhill 07-17-2018 16:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillBingham2 (Post 2822623)
Helen, you, the Queen of Normal .........Lenses that is :eek:

I'm not surprised, they are that much fun.

Hope all.

B2 (;->


Not sure what YOU mean by 'nomal' ??
but I had the GRI and GRII which funny enough
brought me back in 2008 to shoot Film...

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnwolf (Post 2822626)
Congrats, Helen. For a dedicated 50mm shooter, it should be interesting. Be sure to try snap focus. I really miss that feature.

John

Yes, 28 is COOL especially with digi
prefer wide 21mm and tres longer 75/85 now

jsrockit 07-17-2018 16:24

I'm so ready for a GR III. Just would like to see a modern sensor and better low light AF. Everything else can stay the same...

jsrockit 09-02-2018 13:17

Heard some good info from a supposedly reliable source... the GR3 will be 24mp, will have Pentax's SR, will have an OVF, but no EVF, and will have a touch screen. Sounds interesting, but it is still a rumor.

aizan 09-02-2018 14:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsrockit (Post 2831835)
will have an OVF, but no EVF

:eek: please be real! that'd be a dream come true.


coelacanth 09-02-2018 15:00

If GR with OVF gets announced, I’ll be placing an order before you can blink.

jsrockit 09-02-2018 16:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by aizan (Post 2831847)
:eek: please be real! that'd be a dream come true.


Whoa, that looks like it was made by a RF member! I wish they had done that...

Scottboarding 09-02-2018 17:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsrockit (Post 2831835)
Heard some good info from a supposedly reliable source... the GR3 will be 24mp, will have Pentax's SR, will have an OVF, but no EVF, and will have a touch screen. Sounds interesting, but it is still a rumor.

If that's true and it's under $700 I will buy it no question. I'm trying to sell my GRii right now because I can't stand shooting with the LCD and I'm frankly not a fan of the color images that come out of it. A new sensor/processor should help with that, and an OVF would be awesome.

Jamie Pillers 09-02-2018 17:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsrockit (Post 2831835)
Heard some good info from a supposedly reliable source... the GR3 will be 24mp, will have Pentax's SR, will have an OVF, but no EVF, and will have a touch screen. Sounds interesting, but it is still a rumor.


https://pentaxrumors.com/2018/03/02/...-in-september/

BillBingham2 09-02-2018 17:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scottboarding (Post 2831870)
If that's true and it's under $700 I will buy it no question. I'm trying to sell my GRii right now because I can't stand shooting with the LCD and I'm frankly not a fan of the color images that come out of it. A new sensor/processor should help with that, and an OVF would be awesome.

Have you thought of an external finder. I used a Metal 28 CV finder and loved it. Makes it too big for a pocket, but fun to use, very retro looking, even with a wrist strap.

B2 (;->

Ko.Fe. 09-02-2018 19:22

I was thinking yesterday which camera is the best for travel in terms of price, size and sensor blend. Plus, rechargeable via USB to save even more space in carry-on.
GR II came as the leader.
External OVF is WG style, but quality 28mm and not huge one is 100USD at least for used. With above 200$ price tag for new one.
OVF makes a lot more sense if on travel. With turned off screen is like dual battery. So, no second battery is needed, nor it is allowed in carry-on, they say.

sevres_babylone 09-02-2018 20:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ko.Fe. (Post 2831886)
I was thinking yesterday which camera is the best for travel in terms of price, size and sensor blend. Plus, rechargeable via USB to save even more space in carry-on.
GR II came as the leader.
External OVF is WG style, but quality 28mm and not huge one is 100USD at least for used. With above 200$ price tag for new one.
OVF makes a lot more sense if on travel. With turned off screen is like dual battery. So, no second battery is needed, nor it is allowed in carry-on, they say.

I have an OVF (actually 2, though I can't find one:), but I rarely use it now. I bought mine as part of a kit when I bought the GRDII, the other came with the used GRII I bought after by GR broke, and I couldn't bond with the X100T I bought to replace it.) I did use the OVF a lot on my GRD2 when I was shooting in bright sun in Haiti --lesson: if you're going to use it while wearing sunscreen and sweating like a pig, get a protector for the back screen:)

I do use an external charger and don't find it a problem in terms of space with carry one; it's smaller than a pouch pack of cigarettes.

I used it as my main camera in Vietnam in January 2017. I wish it had some weatherproofing and better high ISO (although I found it better than the X100T at higher ISOs.) I did use it in drizzling rain, which after leaving Ho Chi Minh City was the norm for the next week, except when there was pouring rain. You can use it one-handed, so your other hand is free to hold an umbrella

As for carrying extra batteries on carry-on; I thought the restrictions are related to battery size. The GR batteries are small.

aizan 09-02-2018 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsrockit (Post 2831865)
Whoa, that looks like it was made by a RF member! I wish they had done that...

that's because i made it in ye olde days!

if i redid it for modern technology, i could leave out the frameline illumination window. :)

Ko.Fe. 09-02-2018 20:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by sevres_babylone (Post 2831891)
I.... if you're going to use it while wearing sunscreen and sweating like a pig, get a protector for the back screen:)

It is correct description for my skin condition on any day. :)

About batteries, I checked, they are allowed.
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...ted-items.html


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