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Roger Hicks
10-15-2010, 00:30
A constitutional is "a walk taken for health's sake, or for the benefit of the constitution". The term first surfaced in 1829, apparently as university slang, but remained in common use for well over a century. A constitutional is still a good idea, and much more agreeable than jogging, not least because your camera doesn't steam up.

Do you take constitutionals? Would you ever go for a constitutional without a camera? And what sort of pictures do you take when you do go for a constitutional? Here are three from my most recent "walk for my health's sake", within maybe half a mile of my house.

All M9 + Frances's 50/2,5 Summarit.

Cheers,

R.

surfer dude
10-15-2010, 00:52
Sue and I go for a walk to the beach almost every day with the two dogs, but I find that dogs + sand + water + cameras is not a healthy mix (for the cameras).

However, if it as a walk sans les chiens then the camera makes a fine companion, and here is an example:

http://photoeclipse.zenfolio.com/img/s7/v8/p325839504-3.jpg

although I have since discovered that there are significantly lighter walking companions than an R8 + 135mm Elmarit.

JayGannon
10-15-2010, 01:19
Yep I walk about 5 miles with the dogs every evening, camera comes with me.
I have some nice shots of the Atlantic destroying the cliffs across the road and the dolphins that live in the bay at the end of the garden =) Will try to find/scan them.

Keith
10-15-2010, 01:37
Wow ... in Oz if you say you're heading off for your morning constitutional it can mean something entirely different!

And you wouldn't be wanting your camera!

:p

Roger Hicks
10-15-2010, 01:41
Wow ... in Oz if you say you're heading off for your morning constitutional it can mean something entirely different!

And you wouldn't be wanting your camera!

:p

Dear Keith,

I'd forgotten that one... Must be a fairly recent usage, though, as it's not in the OED. Then again, Strine is a notoriously colourful language.

Even so, the camera might come in handy. The whole concept fairly screams "Arts Council Grant."

Cheers,

R.

jonmanjiro
10-15-2010, 01:42
Wow ... in Oz if you say you're heading off for your morning constitutional it can mean something entirely different!

And you wouldn't be wanting your camera!

:p

ha indeed! most people would think you're on your way to the thunder box, dunny, or the bog. take your pick :D

Johnmcd
10-15-2010, 01:48
Wow ... in Oz if you say you're heading off for your morning constitutional it can mean something entirely different!

And you wouldn't be wanting your camera!

:p

Exactly what I was thinking. Beat me to it, Keith :)

Rogrund
10-15-2010, 02:07
Wow ... in Oz if you say you're heading off for your morning constitutional it can mean something entirely different!

And you wouldn't be wanting your camera!

:p

It's kind of fun to read the examples from OED with this meaning in mind... :D

1829 DARWIN (http://dictionary.oed.com/help/bib/oed2-d.html#darwin) Life & Lett. (1888) I. 176 An occasional ride with Simcox, and constitutional with Whitley. 1836 [E. CASWALL (http://dictionary.oed.com/help/bib/oed2-c.html#e-caswall)] Pluck Exam. Papers (Oxf.; ed. 3) 41 He taketh a constitutional of forty minutes every day.1852 BRISTED (http://dictionary.oed.com/help/bib/oed2-b3.html#bristed) 5 Years Eng. Univ. (ed. 2) 45 The Cantab's constitutional of eight miles in less than two hours.1857 HUGHES (http://dictionary.oed.com/help/bib/oed2-h4.html#hughes) Tom Brown II. iv, And recognises Holmes and Diggs taking a constitutional.

wgerrard
10-15-2010, 03:08
I used to do a hard 5-mile walk every day in my little slice of the suburban nation. Wasn't really a constitutional and wasn't really conducive to carrying a camera. I gave that up due to sore feet, sore knees and some other excuses for laziness.

But, almost all of my photography does involve something that could fairly be called a constitutional, in that I go someplace I know will provide a opportunity for both walking and photography. One's the motivation for the other. Very symbiotic. Travel is an obvious example. But, I do the same locally, even if it's just going downtown.

Sometimes, though, if I'm carrying a digital and find a place to sit and rest, I'll take a long series of shots of the same scene as different people pass through it. The results are almost always junk, but it's amusing.

Roger Hicks
10-15-2010, 03:44
It's kind of fun to read the examples from OED with this meaning in mind... :D

1829 DARWIN (http://dictionary.oed.com/help/bib/oed2-d.html#darwin) Life & Lett. (1888) I. 176 An occasional ride with Simcox, and constitutional with Whitley. 1836 [E. CASWALL (http://dictionary.oed.com/help/bib/oed2-c.html#e-caswall)] Pluck Exam. Papers (Oxf.; ed. 3) 41 He taketh a constitutional of forty minutes every day.1852 BRISTED (http://dictionary.oed.com/help/bib/oed2-b3.html#bristed) 5 Years Eng. Univ. (ed. 2) 45 The Cantab's constitutional of eight miles in less than two hours.1857 HUGHES (http://dictionary.oed.com/help/bib/oed2-h4.html#hughes) Tom Brown II. iv, And recognises Holmes and Diggs taking a constitutional.

Magnificent!

I am reminded however of Steptoe the younger to Steptoe the elder: "I can't take you anywhere -- unless there's a hole in the seat!"

Cheers,

R.

oftheherd
10-15-2010, 04:51
Wow ... in Oz if you say you're heading off for your morning constitutional it can mean something entirely different!

And you wouldn't be wanting your camera!

:p

Expressions do often change or fall out of favor. I remember as a youth the first time I read an account of travel on a boat on a river. As people woke up, the author observed an indian making his toilet. I didn't understand.

It took some time before I learned the real meaning.

But Mr. Hick's meaning I understood, as would most I think, in the USA.

Nice photos BTW Mr. Hicks.

John Camp
10-17-2010, 11:10
I do go for (almost) daily constitutionals, but don't take a camera. To me, a camera means I'm "doing something," while a constitutional is best for rumination and observation. I occasionally regret not having a camera, but not often enough that I'd actually take one. As with Double Negative, I do go for photo walks, and then I'm specifically thinking about the camera and the scenes in front of me...I'm more intent, and not so much ruminating. I also usually have a spot or goal in mind, and will pick equipment suitable for the goal...most often, now, a Panasonic GF1 with a moderate 14-45 zoom (28-90 equiv.)

John Lawrence
10-17-2010, 11:25
Dear Keith,

I'd forgotten that one... Must be a fairly recent usage, though, as it's not in the OED. Then again, Strine is a notoriously colourful language.


R.

Roger,

I don't think it's that recent.

I'm aware of both meanings and I can remember my late father (and his father) referring to a "constitutional" (Keith's version) many years ago. Apparently it was a common expression amongst the working classes. I think it originated from when you took a walk to the toilet at the end of the garden, and this was the politest way of telling those in the house where you were!

John

John Lawrence
10-17-2010, 11:32
Wow ... in Oz if you say you're heading off for your morning constitutional it can mean something entirely different!

And you wouldn't be wanting your camera!

:p

There are photographers out there who have won awards for doing just that!

Personally, I wouldn't want to see the body of work they've produced though!

John

bigeye
10-17-2010, 11:56
I dream about it. But, with 4 small children and a labrador, our constitutionals are more like the mob storming the Bastille.

Foxes, deer and hawks scatter in every direction. Flora is a possibility, but the dog tugging the leash increases the chance of camera quake. I do have a shot somewhere of the bottom of my boy's shoes as the dog dragged him down the path after a rabbit.

I keep a N/F80 in the tank bag of the Buell and the jeep for my commute. Only chance I have during the week to catch something will be then.

- Charlie

DNG
10-17-2010, 11:59
Yes I do, I walk 2 to 3 times a week about 2 miles, at local park.
I always take a camera with me.
This is part of my weight loss program....
In 8 weeks I have lost 13/Lbs (My goal is 5Lbs per 4 weeks)
35Lbs to go! :)

On my last walk, (easier on the knees than jogging and allows a short hello with others),
I had a new to me Pentax Super Program w/ Pentax F (AF) 35-70 zoom, set on 35mm and 12' @ f/11...
Here a few snap shots.....


This nice lady with her out of the picture husband, were collecting native leaves from Indiana tress for a patchwork quilt.
http://files.myopera.com/arbib/albums/814357/800LS-Pentax%20S-Prgm%20w-35-70%20Test%20roll--04_2.tn.jpg

http://files.myopera.com/arbib/albums/814357/800LS-Pentax%20S-Prgm%20w-35-70%20Test%20roll--05_2.tn.jpg

http://files.myopera.com/arbib/albums/814357/800LS-Pentax%20S-Prgm%20w-35-70%20Test%20roll--12_2.tn.jpg

http://files.myopera.com/arbib/albums/814357/800LS-Pentax%20S-Prgm%20w-35-70%20Test%20roll--13_2.tn.jpg


I did a quick and dirty on the post..... sorry, it was after all, just a quick test roll.

dave lackey
10-17-2010, 12:04
Well, my constitutional consists of a 5-mile trek over the course of about an hour and 12-15 minutes. Get pretty sweaty at that, but I do take my camera along at times and WISH that I had when I was attacked by two 85 lb. Rhodesian Ridgebacks at the 3-mile mark last December!!!

Both with M3 + Summarit +Tri-X

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=82028&stc=1&d=1287345831

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=82029&stc=1&d=1287345863

kram
10-17-2010, 14:26
my constitutional consists of walking my mutts every evening if it is snowing, raining or sometimes sunny. I the summer I do pocket my Minox 35 now and again.

If it is a weekend beach walk I might take the ZM Ikon, have taken the Mamiya 7 (once) and even the MPP mark7 on 2 occasions- with roll film back !

Brian Sweeney
10-17-2010, 14:37
Usually get a 2mile walk in everyday, now that it is not so warm. Two per day on a weekend. Almost always with a camera.

Yesterday's morning walk,

pre-war 5cm F1.5 CZJ Sonnar on the M8, had just finished cleaning out haze.

http://www.seriouscompacts.com/gallery/data/526/leaf1_f15.jpg (http://www.seriouscompacts.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=596&title=leaf1-f15&cat=526)

Last week, J-3 modified for close-focus, wide-open on the M8:
http://www.seriouscompacts.com/gallery/data/517/closeup_f15.jpg (http://www.seriouscompacts.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=437&title=new-close-focus&cat=517)

kshapero
10-17-2010, 14:39
Either a walk or on the bike. M6 with me always.

Beemermark
10-17-2010, 14:43
Wow ... in Oz if you say you're heading off for your morning constitutional it can mean something entirely different!

And you wouldn't be wanting your camera!

:p
Same here in the states. Usually take a catalog or Shutterbug when I take a constitutional. -:)

Morca007
10-17-2010, 14:53
I often prefer to leave my camera at home when going for a walk, or at the least bring something 'less serious.'

One of my favorite recent photos taken while on a walk was taken with the worst camera I own (even inferior to the one on my cellphone, and brought for that reason):

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4093/4955261403_b52101e5ee_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/crooked_style/4955261403/)

When I am out for a walk purely for its' own sake I don't want to feel the need to frame the world, simply experience it.

Keith
10-17-2010, 16:05
Same here in the states. Usually take a catalog or Shutterbug when I take a constitutional. -:)


Which one do you find has the smoothest paper?

:D

dave lackey
10-17-2010, 16:49
Brian, how do you modify the Jupiter lens for close-ups? I would be interested in something like that since my Summarit only focuses as close as 3 feet or something!

robert blu
10-18-2010, 01:09
I walk at least one hour almost every day, never with a camera . Film is getting expensive (!) maybe I need a digital one for this purpose ! Seriously I took already many pictures of my surroundings (http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=5559) and I prefer not to repeat myself. But the idea is good and I'll give a try...
robert

robklurfield
10-18-2010, 06:22
I do my "constitutional" on a bike until the weather gets to cold and nasty for riding. Then I switch to bi-pedal locomotion. The camera goes with me at all times. I can't believe how many images I missed over the years by having not opted to carry a camera until last year on every ride and every walk. Dumb. But, I have the rest of my life to make amends.

kevin m
10-18-2010, 06:34
Constitutional + camera = crap photography in American English. :p