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Roger Hicks
07-30-2010, 04:48
EDIT: PLEASE DON'T BOTHER WITH MORE REPLIES -- all sorted. Thanks to all for your suggestions. It made everything much easier.

An odd request here:

Some of you will remember Cam, though she hasn't appeared much on the forum lately (not least because she was busy moving house).

I lent her one of my M2s (keeping the one with the RapidWinder on it!) on the understanding that if she wanted to keep it, she could buy it off me.

Well, she wants to keep it, but I don't know what to charge: we never discussed price. NOT top whack, obviously, because she's a friend and a fellow RFF member, but equally, I don't want to give it away. She's had it for quite a while and is happy with it (no hidden or unknown problems), so what's a fair price?

Cheers,

R.

helenhill
07-30-2010, 04:50
Dear Roger,
I would say $650.00 is a PURRfect Price ...even more so for a FRIEND

Send Cam my LOVE .... xo- H

dcsang
07-30-2010, 04:52
I'm with Helen on this one - most M2's I think are in and around the $650-$700 price range (depending on condition of course) .

Cheers,
Dave

Keith
07-30-2010, 05:23
If she's a friend ... whatever it owes you IMO.

No one loses ... no one wins! :)

35mmdelux
07-30-2010, 05:26
Dear Roger,
I would say $650.00 is a PURRfect Price ...even more so for a FRIEND

Send Cam my LOVE .... xo- H

ditto. $650

Sparrow
07-30-2010, 05:36
In the UK 350-500 depending on condition and version, to a friend? then it depends what value the friendship has

wlewisiii
07-30-2010, 05:45
Roger,

Based on the circumstances and on the condition described, I'd actually propose $500. That is below current market value but not unreasonably so. Here at RFF (and even moreso at NFF) I've gotten a number of similar deals from friends so I would not hesitate to give such a deal personally. And isn't it continuing to be used a better thing than it sitting on a shelf collecting dust?

William

Blanco Dos
07-30-2010, 05:46
If she's a friend ... whatever it owes you IMO.

No one loses ... no one wins! :)

Me too.
For a friend I would ask for a nice meal or 2 or 3 signed prints.

martin s
07-30-2010, 05:47
650 $ - considering the exchange rate - would be a little much here in Germany, even from a dealer. I'd sell it (and in fact have sold one) for closer to 500 dollars.

martin

Roger Hicks
07-30-2010, 05:50
If she's a friend ... whatever it owes you IMO.

No one loses ... no one wins! :)

Dear Keith,

After 30+ years, and maybe a repair or two, I'm not sure what it stands me in. Besides, charging the prices of 30-40 years ago doesn't make that much sense!

Cam is a friend, but equally, not someone with whom I am in touch every day, or even every month: months can go by without our communicating. In fact we've only ever met once, in Arles in 2009. William's assessment is nearest the mark.

To everyone else: there seems to be remarkable unanimity on the dollar price, for which thank you very much, and thanks to Stewart for a sterling price. Any further ideas on a euro price? I'm in France; she's in Belgium.

Cheers,

R.

Benjamin Marks
07-30-2010, 05:50
I'm with William. Although, Roger, if you had seen the post above about a market value of US $650, you might have reached the same conclusion.

edmelvins
07-30-2010, 05:55
Roger,

Based on the circumstances and on the condition described, I'd actually propose $500. That is below current market value but not unreasonably so. Here at RFF (and even moreso at NFF) I've gotten a number of similar deals from friends so I would not hesitate to give such a deal personally. And isn't it continuing to be used a better thing than it sitting on a shelf collecting dust?

William

Agreed. If it's a close friend, I wouldn't hesitate to give her a lower price (lower than the common price). In a way, it'll tell her that she means something to you. :D

jsrockit
07-30-2010, 05:56
For a friend... $500-600

Roger Hicks
07-30-2010, 06:02
Gosh! Thanks for all the replies! It's looking like 400€ at the moment ($520, 330 approximately) unless anyone changes my mind.

Cheers,

R.

Pickett Wilson
07-30-2010, 06:04
Sounds like a good price, Roger.

Keith
07-30-2010, 06:08
That's very fair Roger! :)

Ducky
07-30-2010, 06:40
I'd say charge less than what would make you feel guilty and more than what would make you regret it.
You'd have to be the judge.
Vague, I know, but you have already had specific suggestions.

cam
07-30-2010, 06:43
i am a terrible friend, an awful friend, and have gone underground whilst moving (leaving Paris made me blue and seemed to go on forever...). i have been horrific with both my friendships and sharing my photographs or looking other's work for which i deserve at least ninety lashes with a wet noodle!

whereas Roger has been forever giving, both in loaning me the camera (always a try-before-you-buy affair) and in endless and priceless advice through my adventures in falling in love with rangefinder photography.

thank you all for helping with the price -- it was always my intention to pay. as i said above, Roger (and Frances!) have already given me so much!

i only hope to do the camera proud as my metering skills still well and truly suck...

Sparrow
07-30-2010, 06:46
"a thing without cost has no value"

PS I've had one out on-loan for about four years now and I can't decide what to do about it long term

SolaresLarrave
07-30-2010, 07:09
Roger, can we do business some day? :)

ampguy
07-30-2010, 07:13
friend with bennies?

I think $500-$600 (latter if it has quick load, etc.)

jesse1dog
07-30-2010, 07:19
Roger

I think its over to Cam now!
She has read the suggestions.
What had she got in mind as far as its value is concerned?

jesse

wlewisiii
07-30-2010, 07:20
Gosh! Thanks for all the replies! It's looking like 400 at the moment ($520, 330 approximately) unless anyone changes my mind.

Cheers,

R.

For some funny reason, I think that's a good answer. :angel: Good to you both.

William

twopointeight
07-30-2010, 07:44
$500 for the M2, plus a pie, or a print, or a photo book.

Roger Hicks
07-30-2010, 08:36
thank you all for helping with the price -- it was always my intention to pay. as i said above, Roger (and Frances!) have already given me so much!
...

Dear Cam,

Sold to the lady with the soft-focus leg for 400€! (spits on hand, slaps barrel head, etc.)

And as you say, thanks to everyone for helping with the price. I imagine you were as embarrassed about the idea of suggesting a price as I was. Hence the delay in mentioning it.

Cheers,

R.

cam
07-30-2010, 08:41
alas, i don't do pies...

Gumby
07-30-2010, 10:26
I'm embarassed to be a voyeur in this transaction. But good for both of you for figuring it out!

SimonSawSunlight
07-30-2010, 10:35
the fairest price between friends is probably the one that is fair for both sides, not just for the buyer. 500-600$ seems ok to me, but then again, I haven't seen the camera.

have fun and good luck with the camera, Cam!

hipsterdufus
07-30-2010, 11:06
I need to make more friends who are looking to sell rangefinders...

David Murphy
07-30-2010, 11:15
If I sell something to a friend I always take to lowest market price and knock 10% off (so about $585 in this case) - I let them make payments too if necessary. Usually the exchange takes place at StarBucks or some cafe and a social event is combined!

enasniearth
07-30-2010, 11:23
I sold a nice one here on rff about two months ago for $550
It was the lever rewind ,no self timer type . This was body only .

Beemermark
07-30-2010, 11:45
I'd ask her how much she thinks it worth. Put the ball in her court and see if it's a price you can live with.

JohnTF
07-31-2010, 08:11
And thus "Paypie" was born, putting Paypal out of business. Although some customers did not like that Paypie nibbled 3% off their pies. :-)


Best quote of the day, am sure a bottle of Pastis was involved, and the friendship is priceless.

Throw in a rapid load when you find one, I did with Jorge, and when a tab needs to be picked up in Uruapan, I remind him. ;-)

J

maggieo
07-31-2010, 09:33
I'm just happy that Cam has an M2 to use! I look forward to seeing some photos from it, young lady! ;)

oftheherd
08-05-2010, 08:46
... and have gone underground whilst moving (leaving Paris made me blue and seemed to go on forever...). i have been horrific with both my friendships and sharing my photographs or looking other's work for which i deserve at least ninety lashes with a wet noodle!

...

So don't be a stranger now! And you should have been around here long enough to know the cure for the blues - GAS! :D :D

cam
08-05-2010, 09:05
So don't be a stranger now! And you should have been around here long enough to know the cure for the blues - GAS! :D :D

you know it!!! if only...

i'll have to live vicariously :p