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OMboy
03-03-2010, 03:12
This forum is dangerous - I only joined recently due to my love of all things Zuiko in the evil SLR world :D

I have just picked up an Olympus 35RC (my first rangefinder) which I love and I'm wondering about getting a smallish compact flashgun for it.
I would like to get something from the Seventies period if possible to match the age of the camera - any suggestions from other users...?

Many thanks

Mablo
03-03-2010, 04:37
Well, I guess the Seventies choice would be Vivitar 283 but perhaps you're after something smaller :) I used Nikon SB-22s with mine but Nikon SB-20 or SB-17 would be fine too I'm sure. Note that 35RC has a rather sophisticated flashmatic system where you simply choose the GN value of your flash, set the flash to manual and shoot away. It works quite well as long as you use ISO100 film. Of course you can use the normal Auto (Thyristor) mode as well.

jke
03-03-2010, 04:48
What's that nifty little Pentax flash called? I think it is an AF-16. Pretty small, strong, and works well. That might be a good one.

Richard Ross
03-03-2010, 07:00
Well the Olympus PS200 would be the obvious choice as it's the one recommended in the 35RC Instruction Book, but I don't think I've ever seen one!

Regards
Richard

Jack Conrad
03-03-2010, 09:48
I recently used a Vivitar 283 on my Yashica GSN and I think it may have damaged a circuit in the camera.
I'm getting battery drain now and when I opened up the bottom to look, I noticed a small burn mark on the white plastic circuit board next to the battery that wasn't there before.
I could be reaching here, but some of the 283's have a reputation for high voltage spikes.

Anyway, just a possibility.

nikku
03-03-2010, 10:08
I used a Canolite D on mine for a long time. The RC has a "flashmatic" mode that allows you to use any flash you want and get accurate exposures, as long as you know the correct ASA of the film you're using and the GN of the flash.

ColinW
03-03-2010, 10:17
If you want the real thing try this link:

http://www.tripman.co.uk/70131/info.php?p=7&pno=0

Out of stock at the moment but he gets them in quite regulary, it's good for filters, caps, hoods, etc. too. Same size as the 35RC. The other rarer one is the Olympus PS100G.

I use a Sunpak MX112, which is identical to the PS200 but a different guide number (40 feet/12 meters).

If you're not sure about the flashmatic, check here:

http://www.ph.utexas.edu/~yue/misc/35RC.html (http://www.ph.utexas.edu/%7Eyue/misc/35RC.html)

Borghesia
03-03-2010, 10:45
Another vote for the Canolite D. It's still widely available and cheap, and it matches the design of the RC.

charjohncarter
03-03-2010, 14:58
I use one of these on my 35C and other small cameras. I looks 'right' but does not put out enough flash to use for 'sun sync' but I have used it for fill flash outside. Inside it is fine on either auto setting:

http://cgi.ebay.com/VIVITAR-Auto-2600-Camera-Flash-MINT_W0QQitemZ160409524306QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDigit al_Camera_Flashes?hash=item2559271852

This guy uses this flashes' brother, same flash but with a tilting head (2800d). Check 'divided souls' in his gallery.

http://www.davidalanharvey.com/

Trius
03-03-2010, 17:27
Thanks to Colin, I have a PS100 ... great little flash, though I haven't used it much since I don't do a lot of flash work. The PS200s are much easier to find. Both of those are sized well for the RC.

OMboy
03-04-2010, 15:03
Thanks to you all for the replies - some helpful stuff there...!

Apologies for the delay in getting back to this thread - for some reason I didn't get any Email notifications...:confused:

I have an old Stanley auto20T which is nice as the flash window is the other way round and the flashgun lies flatter to the top surface rather than standing up tall.

Is there a big difference between small flashguns of around GN 12-14 compared to something around the 20 mark...?
I realise that a 20 will be brighter but it generally gets bigger and I'm trying to find a compromise between size/weight and actual usability.

My little 35RC has just got a twin - I've recently bought another...!

This forum is definitely dangerous...I was even spotted in the Leica section earlier today :eek:

sevo
03-04-2010, 15:13
Is there a big difference between small flashguns of around GN 12-14 compared to something around the 20 mark...?


Well, more reach. Just how much is easy to determine, the usually published guide number is distance (in metre or, for the US market, feet) x aperture at ISO 100. So a (metric) GN 20 flash would light a scenery at 10m distance at f/2, while the GN 12 flash does not make it beyond 6m...

Sevo

OMboy
03-04-2010, 15:36
Of course - I wasn't thinking. Thanks.

Trius
03-04-2010, 16:50
The PS100 is horizontal, so is better in terms of ergonomics. I don't remember the guide number, and they seem to only turn up on UK eBay.

OMboy
03-10-2010, 15:49
I managed to pick up a PS200 today with a case for 1...including working batteries...!

ully
11-23-2010, 18:10
I got a Rollei 128bc to go with my RC. Sizewise its perfect.

btgc
11-23-2010, 23:31
Note that 35RC has a rather sophisticated flashmatic system where you simply choose the GN value of your flash, set the flash to manual and shoot away. It works quite well as long as you use ISO100 film. Of course you can use the normal Auto (Thyristor) mode as well.

I haven't used RC with flash for a long, but as I recall, with ISO400 film I just set GN two notches higher than nominal of flash, just like two stops of film. Isn't this supposed to be correct workaround?

Mablo
11-24-2010, 00:13
I haven't used RC with flash for a long, but as I recall, with ISO400 film I just set GN two notches higher than nominal of flash, just like two stops of film. Isn't this supposed to be correct workaround?

It might indeed work, at least to some extent. Setting GN higher will result that the RC's mechanics will select a smaller aperture which is exactly what is needed when a faster speed film than 100 is used. The relation between GN notches and ISO might not be exact but it's there or thereabout.

Then again you could circumvent the whole GN/ISO thing using a common Thyristor-equipped flash and select the needed aperture manually.

wakarimasen
11-24-2010, 01:16
Would a National PE-2002 work? I have one of these, and an RC, but never considered putting the two together

Best regards,
RoyM

ruby.monkey
11-24-2010, 01:31
The Olympus T-32 ain't all that big. ;)

Mablo
11-24-2010, 02:33
Would a National PE-2002 work? I have one of these, and an RC, but never considered putting the two together

Best regards,
RoyM

Absolutely. The GN of National 2002 is 20 if my memory serves me.

David Hughes
11-24-2010, 04:41
Just for the record, there was also a PS200 Quick which took 4 batteries instead of the 2 of the PS200.

Going back a little earlier there was the Olympus Flash CL which was used horizontally instead of upright but used flash bulbs and a 15v battery from memory. There were very neat on the cameras.

And, of course, there were/are dozen of flashes similar in shape and output to the PS200 and PS100G. It shouldn't be a problem finding one.

Regards, David

PS (Edit) Just dug out a brochure from Olympus dated - I guess - April 1970 and it features the Flash CL and PS 100G and the cameras were the SP, RC, ECR and Trip 35 plus the FTL and PenEE-2 and EES-2.

OlympusRF
11-25-2010, 09:49
For horizontal flash, you have the original Olympus PS100 G, but it is a little big.you have it in the SP manual, but you will have to be patient ... i waited several months until one appeared in ebay, its hard to get. Now you have one hard to get also in ebay, and with the box, the PS200 Quick, it uses 4 batt instead of 2, but the charging time is 3-4 sec, instead of 7 sec on the normal PS200. i just posted some photos for all to see:

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5003/5205017108_18efea48a7.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5163/5205015690_a863a68b90.jpg

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4088/5204419661_a69810f905.jpg

The PS100 G have about 5 sec recycling time, uses 2 batteries, about 200 flashes, cost me about 15€, seen it go up to 20-25. think it worth waiting, just to know that it is the original flash for the camera, and rare.
I've taken now photos with the Olympus Flash CL (small,with bulbs, but with really high power), looks so nice on the camera, and the PS200 Quick. I think olympus fans will enjoy, since its rare to see the camera with these flashes.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5041/5205685990_48d750ba4f.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5165/5205087527_25fa25bd87.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5045/5205086981_c3422735b2.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5207/5205680258_dee0354db3.jpg



http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5205/5205684368_c38e67e273.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5170/5205680770_2d64102192.jpg



My page with most of my Olympus cameras, and you can see the 35 RC folder :
www.flickr.com/photos/olympusrf (http://www.flickr.com/photos/olympusrf/5205685990/)

ZeissFan
11-25-2010, 10:34
A nice little flash is the Sunpak 170 (Sunpak 100 or 200 in the U.S., I think).

It takes two AA (rechargeable OK), has thrysitor technology for quick recycle times and has automatic and manual settings.

OlympusRF
01-22-2011, 01:20
Olympus Flash PS100G for sale: Gab it, its hard to find!
I have one also, so i share information!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110635789586&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT