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Roger Hicks
12-08-2009, 12:14
...but I still feel more than qualified to break in.

Why? If you are too lazy to read the rest of the thread, maybe you don't really care (or know) enough about the subject.

Even if you only glance at others' contributions, consider the possibility that someone else has (a) already made the point you are trying to make, possibly better than you are making it or (b) has already demolished your hopelessly feeble argument.

Guess why I feel so strongly about this? Because I've made a fool of myself often enough before. Now I try to do so less often, though sometimes I skim others' posts too quickly, and make a fool of myself all over again. I urge others to try to read others' words too.

Cheers,

R.

snausages
12-08-2009, 12:18
I voted for EVF + 'better build' but according to my sources we won't see it until Feb 2010.

ItsReallyDarren
12-08-2009, 12:21
I'm trying so hard to respond with a well thought out sentence but snausages is making me laugh so hard I'm starting to choke.

antiquark
12-08-2009, 12:29
There aren't enough hours in the day to read every post. Skimming is a necessity in online forums.

Roger Hicks
12-08-2009, 12:30
I voted for EVF + 'better build' but according to my sources we won't see it until Feb 2010.

Brilliant!

Cheers,

R.

Brian Sweeney
12-08-2009, 13:29
But how about posting some shots in the Retina forum?

Brian Sweeney
12-08-2009, 13:56
http://www.seasky.org/astronomy/astronomy_messier_31to40.html

You should be able to easily see M39 with 7x binoculars, 50mm objective lenses best. The last pair ran $7 at Walgreens.

robklurfield
12-08-2009, 13:56
should I buy a new camera? what's good brand? is this LikeA brand any good? I'm new at this stuff. I used to own a camera obsura. got any advice. what's this thread about again?;)

but seriously, Roger, I'm sure we all agree. however, when some threads go on for five, ten, or more pages, I'm sure we all take the easy way out from time to time, running our proverbial mouths before engaging our proverbial brains. I'll bet that nearly everone on the site is guilty sometimes.

when we collectively get really far off topic, some of the other mods (back alley, are you watching this one???) seem pretty good at policing us.

back alley
12-08-2009, 14:31
don't make me shut this thread down...

wgerrard
12-08-2009, 14:46
Film is dead.

Oh...

JoeV
12-08-2009, 14:56
Well, at least I got in on the first page of this thread!

I relate to what you're saying, Roger; it does feel like walking in on a conversation, interrupting, and interjecting with something that someone else has already said.

The frustrating thing about this is that it's usually a subject upon which I hold some degree of interest and passion, and thus would very much like to be part of the conversation. I suppose I should just hold my tongue (figuratively speaking) and simply wait for the next thread on the same subject.

It's interesting how internet discussion forums can simulate pretty accurately the attributes of actual face-to-face conversation, albeit without the real-time feedback.

~Joe

ferider
12-08-2009, 15:06
It's interesting how internet discussion forums can simulate pretty accurately the attributes of actual face-to-face conversation ....

~Joe

They don't really. It's more of an American freeway traffic simulation ...

What was this thread about again ? :)

Chris101
12-08-2009, 15:21
I think there is a reason one does not read the intervening posts.

newspaperguy
12-08-2009, 15:40
I'm certain that you are correct in your observation, M. Hicks...

I realize that I while may be interested in the thread, I'm more likely
to be responding to the most recent preceding post, than to the original.

BTW enjoyed your "aging" exercise in the latest Shutterbug.

Keep 'em coming... I think the mag is getting better.

No hi-jack intended.

REALLY!

oftheherd
12-08-2009, 15:44
I want very much to comment on this thread, but it hasn't gone into more than one page, so I will wait. Maybe.

ampguy
12-08-2009, 15:49
`You've been down too, if you don't do something that took to see him, `I didn't seem to spell them up in the market price of slowly clearing the shopman on my sister, Mrs Joe pounded away without which, I dragged out, roasted and not put me a slate as if I could take wine, Mum. I'll bet you.' He gave me feel as I could see some dregs of his last night, sir,' returned the form of good company to be told you here be white, now gave me sensitive. In order, however

Proteus617
12-08-2009, 15:58
http://www.seasky.org/astronomy/astronomy_messier_31to40.html

You should be able to easily see M39 with 7x binoculars, 50mm objective lenses best. The last pair ran $7 at Walgreens.

Thanks for the catalog Brian! I see the galaxies, but where are the prices?

climbing_vine
12-08-2009, 16:01
I HAVE read the thread, but would like to say "film is dead" and "mumble mumble about galaxies" because there is strength in rote repetition.

back alley
12-08-2009, 16:02
i agree with nick...we are lost.

marke
12-08-2009, 16:17
Have I missed anything yet?

mwooten
12-08-2009, 16:33
Tri-x is your best solution in this situation.

surfer dude
12-08-2009, 16:40
What I object to is people who have clearly not read the thread, then coming in with their pathetic contribution which has already probably been said better, or already argued away by someone else.

Warren T.
12-08-2009, 16:54
In fact, KEH's BGN rated ones are often surprisingly clean.

tonyj
12-08-2009, 17:12
Clean indeed, but best planted in the late Spring. Or put more air in the tyres for even better results.....

gb hill
12-08-2009, 17:27
Good thread Roger for bumping up the ol post count. Wan't to talk health care?...I don't.;)

pakeha
12-08-2009, 17:30
Isnt it always the smokers whom have quit, that whinge the most about other people smoking

Giving up is for quitters:D

Gumby
12-08-2009, 17:31
I voted in the poll but thought there should have been a second option, "All of the above".

maddoc
12-08-2009, 18:26
Happy holidays :)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2674/4170110821_d50e27794e.jpg

What was the thread about ?

bmattock
12-08-2009, 18:29
Isnt it always the smokers whom have quit, that whinge the most about other people smoking

Giving up is for quitters:D

As an ex-smoker, I feel I have no right to criticize smokers. However, I always cringe inside when I smell one walking by me; I hate that I used to stink that badly. I'm sorry I subjected others to that putrid stench for so long.

jonmanjiro
12-08-2009, 18:29
Happy holidays :)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2674/4170110821_d50e27794e.jpg

What was the thread about ?

Maybe about waking up drunk and skint in the early hours of the morning in a Susukino side alley with a girl wearing a santa hat peering down at you?

bmattock
12-08-2009, 18:30
Happy holidays :)

What was the thread about ?

I like pie.

jonmanjiro
12-08-2009, 18:31
Maybe about waking up drunk and skint in the early hours of the morning in a Susukino side alley with a girl wearing a santa hat peering down at you?

And she's calling you "sensei" ;)

bmattock
12-08-2009, 18:31
wow - is this a real nazi leica on craigslist for $3000?

Nazis are humps, and their cameras are for sucks. :angel:

bmattock
12-08-2009, 18:32
And she's calling you "sensei" ;)

And you've got a ring on your finger and a screaming kid calling you 'new daddy'.

bmattock
12-08-2009, 18:33
In fact, KEH's BGN rated ones are often surprisingly clean.

It's run by Jews. Or wait. No, I mean Adorama. Oop. Ack. I mean...never mind.

Ducky
12-08-2009, 19:11
I don't like this thread so I am not going to read it.

bmattock
12-08-2009, 19:20
And film will live forever. Or it's dead. I can't remember.

robklurfield
12-08-2009, 19:38
Should I sell my M8 to raise money to pay for this camera?

http://www.classic-camera.com/albums/Novelty-Cameras/Wonderflex.jpg

I'm not sure if the lens is okay. There's something going on. I don't think it's fungus. Does anyone have shots they have made with one of these?

bmattock
12-08-2009, 19:46
I'm not sure if the lens is okay. There's something going on. I don't think it's fungus. Does anyone have shots they have made with one of these?

Will you use a strap?

And eBay sellers, they're the worst.

amateriat
12-08-2009, 19:47
And film will live forever. Or it's dead. I can't remember.
That's funny, Bill...I can't remember, either. :rolleyes:

Damn...this thread reminds me, again, of why I love this place.


- Barrett

pakeha
12-08-2009, 19:50
so you thought i was actually talking about smoking , didn't anybody read the OP :D:D

oh, sorry, i just skimmed over a couple of replies:bang:

i'm non smoker for the time being (hopefully a long time), dam things are a PITA, only reason i took them up was to wean myself off those nicotine chewing gums

:D:D

As an ex-smoker, I feel I have no right to criticize smokers. However, I always cringe inside when I smell one walking by me; I hate that I used to stink that badly. I'm sorry I subjected others to that putrid stench for so long.

Trust you never fart:eek:

35mmdelux
12-08-2009, 19:56
why read the entire book when you can go to the last few pages for the conclusion?

Ducky
12-08-2009, 20:04
I gave up smoking and I am still not going to read this thread.

bmattock
12-08-2009, 20:06
Trust you never fart:eek:

Not whilst standing around outdoors in front of people just trying to get into the building, no.

bmattock
12-08-2009, 20:09
why read the entire book when you can go to the last few pages for the conclusion?

It's people like what cause unrest.

surfer dude
12-08-2009, 23:59
Don't feed the trolls!

...especially after midnight!

Or should that be gremlins that you shouldn't feed?

oftheherd
12-09-2009, 00:45
I still want to post to this thread, but I inadvertantly read the whole thing, now I have to wait more. OI!!

Sparrow
12-09-2009, 00:59
the M stands for Messier in that context, French chap if I remember correctly

and have you noticed now smoking in pubs is banned it stinks of cigarette-smoke on the way out!

me too

Brian Sweeney
12-09-2009, 01:52
was obscurely quoting an old steve martin bit


And yet, my statement is still .TRUE.

Brian Sweeney
12-09-2009, 01:55
I disagree with the OP - even the cheapest binocs are useful for astronomy. Binoculars are easier to locate things with than a telescope where you're looking at the sky through a drinking straw at a right angle, upside down and backwards.

Especially in the freezing cold. However, freezing cold conditions for astronomy are good for film reciprocity failure. Bad for batteries. Yet another reason why film is so much better than digital.

f6andBthere
12-09-2009, 02:20
Is the zip on the Billingham similar to the Domke?

I find the Domke zip a little rough on delicate camera finishes if you're not careful putting your camera in or removing it from the F5-XB.

Rogrund
12-09-2009, 02:41
What thread?

icebear
12-09-2009, 04:42
Oh yes indeed, I read the whole thread - I wish I didn't, too late now but the most important question still remains :
Black or chrome? :D

robklurfield
12-09-2009, 05:31
bump .............

wgerrard
12-09-2009, 05:42
I enjoy the bokeh of a Zuiko 85/2, but find that of a CV 35/1.2 goes better with my pasta.

raydm6
12-09-2009, 05:51
Can we please stay on topic!?

dexdog
12-09-2009, 06:04
I enjoy the bokeh of a Zuiko 85/2, but find that of a CV 35/1.2 goes better with my pasta.

burp.........

degruyl
12-09-2009, 06:31
But the focus turns the wrong way.

so does the speed dial

rbiemer
12-09-2009, 07:03
This thread would have been an enjoyable read if you people had paid better attention to your grammar. (non-native speakers exempted.)
As well, if you paid better attention to grammar, she'd give you better Christmas presents.
Rob
Please don't close this thread until after I've finally posted my insightful rebuttal to all the previous posts.
"Nyah, nyah, nyah!" OK, done.
:D

sanmich
12-09-2009, 07:28
Personally, I disagree.
just my two cents.

D.O'K.
12-09-2009, 08:11
Sturgeon's law (again).

Regards,
D.

oftheherd
12-09-2009, 08:17
Sturgeon's law (again).

Regards,
D.

Law or revalation?

Gumby
12-09-2009, 08:22
I disagree with the OP ...

What OP ?

robklurfield
12-09-2009, 09:31
There's a seller on eBay with multiple listings for current version Noctiluxes at $88.88. How many should I buy? I think it's always good to have at least one spare.

Keith
12-09-2009, 21:59
So whatever did happen to Roger Hicks?

I haven't seen him around the forum for ages ... shacked up with Pitxu possibly! :angel:

Sparrow
12-10-2009, 00:29
So whatever did hapen to Roger Hicks?

I haven't seen him around the forum for ages ... shacked up with Pitxu possibly! :angel:

S******....


P bloody S the world has gone mad!!!

Sparrow
12-10-2009, 00:36
So whatever did happen to Roger Hicks?

I haven't seen him around the forum for ages ... shacked up with Pitxu possibly! :angel:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3636/3340982989_087933eee6_o.jpg

MickH
12-10-2009, 04:38
Don't give me that Creationism baloney!

Incidentally, have you noticed that you never see Charles Darwin and Richard Dawkins in the same place at the same time? Coincidence... I think not!

Sparrow
12-10-2009, 05:20
the best stuff sometimes goes unnoticed :yes:

Roger Vadim
12-10-2009, 06:02
Tri-x in Rodinal stand development - unbeatable

oldoc
12-10-2009, 06:09
Roger:
Congrats on starting the original William Faulkner thead...
Stream of consciousness anyone?
Everyone?
Bokeh?
Tri-X.
Series 7?

wgerrard
12-10-2009, 11:01
Someone told me to use my 50mm as a mini-telephoto, but won't I get better pictures if I use it as a narrow wind angle?

amateriat
12-10-2009, 12:43
Someone told me to use my 50mm as a mini-telephoto, but won't I get better pictures if I use it as a narrow wind angle?
Sure! Just step back a bit...now more...no, i don't think that's a train coming...


- Barrett

peripatetic
12-10-2009, 12:57
I can't believe no one's mentioned Ken Rockwell yet.

And what the heck does "CLA" mean anyway?

Could one use "CLA" and "Ken Rockwell" in the same sentence?

Brian Sweeney
12-10-2009, 14:30
Well, I certainly hope Roger and Frances are out on a trip. Last time he disappeared, Frances was ill.

Or maybe one day he'll just get fed up with us. I hate these unexplained absences in view of past circumstance.

George9
12-10-2009, 15:24
There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know.
There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know.
But there are also unknown unknowns. These are things we don't know we don't know.


Fool me once, shame on...shame on you. ... ... You fooled me, can't get fooled again.


.
..
...
....

Ducky
12-10-2009, 15:25
This thread has gotten much too long, I will definitely not read it.

nightfly
12-10-2009, 15:53
What is your favorite shutter speed on the new Leica M10 4/3rds with human skin covering?

surfer dude
12-10-2009, 16:34
I think the OP will be well pleased with the HDR effects he can get with his M9. It will then make it hard for him to decide between that and his usual practice of cross-processing out-of-date film from his Holga.

DougFord
12-10-2009, 17:05
There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know.
There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know.
But there are also unknown unknowns. These are things we don't know we don't know.


I asked a simple question – ‘black or chrome?’ and you give me this philosophic BS.
I remember when this forum was frequented by helpful blokes that would give ya a straight answer to the question, ‘black or chrome’. Sadly those days are long gone.

robinsonphotography
12-10-2009, 17:09
That works, but only if you compensate with +3EV and shoot with your left hand.

flip
12-10-2009, 17:20
困ったな〜
読んだほうがいいですよ。

jonmanjiro
12-10-2009, 17:24
困ったな〜
読んだほうがいいですよ。

文字化けにしか過ぎないのさ^^

Trius
12-10-2009, 18:20
There are far more than 10 characters on this thread.

jonmanjiro
12-10-2009, 18:35
ゴミ、ごみを出し


The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 10 characters.

Time to take out the garbage!

naruto
12-10-2009, 19:05
the irony is I read through every post in this thread.

ಏನು ಮಾಡ್ತೀರಿ ಈಗ ಈ ಥ್ರೆಡ್ ಎಲ್ಲಿಗೂ ಹೋಗ್ತಾ ಇಲ್ಲ

MickH
12-10-2009, 22:55
I can't be arsed to read through the stuff that's come in since my last post. Would someone care to update me so's I can make a meaningful contribution please?

flip
12-10-2009, 23:20
ダーメ!
今朝は燃えるゴミときやろう!
出ったらおばちゃん来て、”パンパン”するよ! 気をつけてね。おばちゃん怖い。
一回おばちゃんはライカm3と”ラピドウィンだー”でパンパンちた。痛かった〜。

surfer dude
12-10-2009, 23:40
I'm turning 日本人!:)

The Vapours?

degruyl
12-11-2009, 03:02
What is your favorite shutter speed on the new Leica M10 4/3rds with human skin covering?

I got the baby whale penis leather covering on mine, and the film conversion add on.

I like 1/10000 for the shutter speed. YMMV HAND

johannielscom
12-11-2009, 03:53
I haven't read the wole thread, but it seems I need to, since I cannot see how to get from the original post to these Japanese quilting patterns.

:p

AnalogForever
12-11-2009, 04:31
http://www.rogerhicks.org/selectedmessages/messages_doors.html

tonyj
12-11-2009, 06:21
Has anyone told you, your Mother Is a Hamster and Your Father Smells of Elderberries.....?

NIKON KIU
12-11-2009, 06:35
don't make me shut this thread down...

Go Ahead...Make my day ;)

I hope I didn't cause this thread:

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1206762&postcount=74

:bang:

Kiu

jmilkins
12-11-2009, 11:20
a horse walks into a blah...but most of us here would buy it a drink....

bmattock
12-11-2009, 11:48
a horse walks into a blah...but most of us here would buy it a drink....

Unless it's a Belgian. I can't stand those horses. Belgium practically killed the Singing Nun, for crying out loud!

bmattock
12-11-2009, 11:52
Klaatu barada nikto!

That's just what we call 'pillow talk', baby.

wgerrard
12-11-2009, 12:07
Space robots use Nikons.

shadowfox
12-11-2009, 12:10
If more threads are like this, I *will* read every single thread, darnit!!!

This is *the* thread of the year.

Now let's continue talking about dainty bags...

Chris101
12-11-2009, 12:54
Quit horsing around.

NIKON KIU
12-12-2009, 09:08
文字化けにしか過ぎないのさ^^


Bablefish traslation:
It passes only the illegal character, is, the ^^


:D

Kiu

ampguy
12-12-2009, 09:26
なるほど ねえ

よろしく



Bablefish traslation:



:D

Kiu

Roger Hicks
12-12-2009, 09:28
http://www.rogerhicks.org/selectedmessages/messages_doors.html

Wheeee!

'Tweren't I, as we do say in Bristol.

We've been on Brittany for a few days, visiting 'adopted daughter' Aditi and her father Senggye (one of my oldest friends) -- and I was taking pictures of the beach at Port Louis (among other things) with an M9 while Aditi was at lectures at Lorient University. Frances took her Alpa 12 S/WA and 35 Apo Grandagon.

So thanks for the concern elsewhere. We're fine. Well, as fine as you can be after a 300 km drive home this afternoon in a 1972 Land Rover...

Cheers,

R.

Brian Sweeney
12-12-2009, 09:30
Well I'm glad you had a nice trip. Given the history, can't blame some of us for worrying.

George9
12-12-2009, 14:32
So.

What's the answer?

flip
12-12-2009, 15:33
42
.

Brian Sweeney
12-12-2009, 19:47
What was the Question?

jonmanjiro
12-12-2009, 20:54
What was the Question?

What is the meaning of life, the universe, and everything?

amateriat
12-12-2009, 22:30
What is the meaning of life, the universe, and everything?
Oh, don't you start, Brian... :p

I had the answer to that, 11 years ago...


- Barrett

MickH
12-12-2009, 22:44
It's a virus

Jarle Aasland
12-13-2009, 00:41
I haven't read the entire thread. Life is too short. Why worry about it?

(sorry, couldn't resist)

Jarle

Keith
12-13-2009, 00:45
Is it possible to place a thread on your 'ignore' list?

You don't have to read it you know!

Oh my god ... I'm hearing voices! :eek: