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Roger Hicks
10-14-2009, 09:00
Does anone else dream at night about losing one or more of their Leicas? Several times a year I dream that I have misplaced one, had it stolen, dropped it over the side of a boat...

Mostly I can wake myself up out of such a nightmare, but it's still unpleasant. In fact, quite a lot of my dreams are less than pleasant, though it's often trivial: last night, for example, I couldn't find anywhere to park my motorcycle.

Of course I have good dreams too; sometimes very good. So as well as techniques (if any) for getting rid of the bad ones, has anyone any ideas for increasing the proportion of good ones?

Cheers,

R.

alexz
10-14-2009, 09:09
Xmm, Roger, it appears you're having quite tough life experience if the majority of your dreams are such :).
In my case, I either dream very seldom at all or just can't remember if I had dream last night and what it was all about...that is, even owing now 3 Leica bodies and 3 lenses...LOL

A while ago, while on the duty (army service) I used to have quite rough dreams from time to time, but then there was a good reason to. I lost a friend of mine in the army, that brought some quite unpleasant dreaming experience afterward, but yet that was a reason for that...

Roger Hicks
10-14-2009, 09:19
Xmm, Roger, it appears you're having quite tough life experience if the majority of your dreams are such :).
In my case, I either dream very seldom at all or just can't remember if I had dream last night and what it was all about...that is, even owing now 3 Leica bodies and 3 lenses...LOL

A while ago, while on the duty (army service) I used to have quite rough dreams from time to time, but then there was a good reason to. I lost a friend of mine in the army, that brought some quite unpleasant dreaming experience afterward, but yet that was a reason for that...

Dear Alex,

Well, that's what puzzles me. I've never had an easier life than I have right now -- apart from the occasional blip such as the appendicitis, obviously -- so I'm a bit puzzled that I get any bad dreams. Certainly, I have no such excuse as your losing our friend, for which, I commiserate.

Cheers,

R.

antiquark
10-14-2009, 09:21
Apparently, some people can learn how to take control of their dreams:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dream

I never tried it, my dreams are pretty boring.

Roger Hicks
10-14-2009, 09:25
Apparently, some people can learn how to take control of their dreams:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dream

I never tried it, my dreams are pretty boring.

Dear Derek,

Yes, I bought LaBerge's book 15-20 years ago. Unfortunately while his techniques for enhancing dream recall worked, that was all. As I say, I can often wake myself from a nightmare, so that's an advantage, but lucid dreams are very rare for me: probably not even one a year.

Cheers,

R.

alexz
10-14-2009, 09:37
Dear Alex,

Well, that's what puzzles me. I've never had an easier life than I have right now -- apart from the occasional blip such as the appendicitis, obviously -- so I'm a bit puzzled that I get any bad dreams. Certainly, I have no such excuse as your losing our friend, for which, I commiserate.

Cheers,

R.

Thank you Roger, that was some nearly 12 years ago, I came over it already so it's OK.
What is interesting is that my older daughter (she is 7 now) often tends to speak loudly through her dreams having quite vivid (supposedly) dreams, but then rarely she can recall what she has dreamed about...:)

FS Vontz
10-14-2009, 10:13
If that is the worst your imagination can think of, then you have nothing to worry about.

Roger Hicks
10-14-2009, 11:04
If that is the worst your imagination can think of, then you have nothing to worry about.

I think you're probably right. It was mainly curiosity about the losing Leicas dreams.

Hell, in other dreams I danced with the Queen -- and I don't dance!

Cheers,

R.

geejay
10-14-2009, 12:02
Dear Roger,
Only had my MP for one day hate the thought of droping over the side of a boat after all those weeks saving for it!

Roberto
10-14-2009, 12:20
Last night I dreamt about shooting many pictures to test my camera forgetting that I loaded with film... very bad feeling :( I wasted a roll of HP5 (note that I *really* loaded my camera with HP5 last night), and once I woke up this morning I've been very glad to know that the counter was still indicating the first picture...

Twigs
10-14-2009, 12:27
Last night I actually dreamed of dropping and breaking the M9, which I don't even plan to get!

Brian Sweeney
10-14-2009, 12:33
My "unsettled" dreams often take place inside of a program. Kind of like the Matrix or TRON, but in FORTRAN and assembly language. I'm writing code to get myself out of traps. It often leaves me with a solution for a problem at work.

I solved my last problem at work by resequencing the output multiplexers on a new computer board, implemented in FPGA. I am living the dream. Almost like Star Trek.

Sparrow
10-14-2009, 12:42
My "unsettled" dreams often take place inside of a program. Kind of like the Matrix or TRON, but in FORTRAN and assembly language. I'm writing code to get myself out of traps. It often leaves me with a solution for a problem at work.

I solved my last problem at work by resequencing the output multiplexers on a new computer board, implemented in FPGA. I am living the dream. Almost like Star Trek.

Probably best to leave the holodeck now Brian ... you're getting a bit too involved in the 21st century construct ...
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Roger Hicks
10-14-2009, 12:55
Thanks everyone. My original post may perhaps have come across as a bit heavier than it really is. What intrigues me about questions like this is that RFF is close to me in some ways, yet randomly selected in others, and it intrigues me to get responses from people who do not think the same way I do.

So please keep 'em coming!

Cheers,

R.

Chris101
10-14-2009, 13:47
I've never had that dream Roger, but quite a while ago I had a Mamiya 645 with all the trimmings stolen. I had dreams of finding it in pawn shops or second-hand stores for many, many years afterward. I would always become re-depressed when I realized that it was not true upon awakening.

Roger Hicks
10-14-2009, 13:52
Dear Chris,

Oh, dear! I think I'd rather dream I'd lost it, and find on waking up that I hadn't, rather than dreaming I had found it and finding on waking up that it was still lost.

Thanks (and sorry to hear the story),

R.

oftheherd
10-14-2009, 14:39
If science is to be believed, we all dream, assuming we get good enough sleep. Many, myself included, seldom recall our dreams. I have had nightmares, but I don't recall any about losing a camera. Usually it is something walking around in an embarassing situation of some sort. Sometimes I dream things like having fluent conversations in Spanish or Vietnamese. But I was never fluent in Vietnamese, although I spoke it fairly well once upon a time. My Spanish has pretty much left me as well. I haven't used either language for something in excess of 35 years.

Strangely, the other night I went to sleep with the TV on, and the National Geographic Chanel had a program about an African villager trying to get enough cattle to pay the family of the woman he wanted to marry. That was a strange dream!

I think I would settle for yours Mr. Hicks. But it won't happen, as I don't ever see a Leica in my future. Not even a FED. I will stick with my Kiev for an FSU and never venture into Leica-land, even in my dreams. I hope your dreams improve to where you can take self portraits of yourself dancing with royalty. :p

Roger Hicks
10-14-2009, 14:53
What is interesting is that my older daughter (she is 7 now) often tends to speak loudly through her dreams having quite vivid (supposedly) dreams, but then rarely she can recall what she has dreamed about...:)
Dear Alex,

That is intriguing. The question is, will it be kinder to help her learn dream recall rechniques, or to let her carry on without remembering? From my own experience of improved dream recall, I suspect the latter.

Sleep, dreams and the like are all fascinating. My first fiancée used to sleepwalk and suffer from asthma -- until we started sleeping together... (Not that I recommend this for your elder daughter for a good few years yet!)

Cheers,

R.

Roger Hicks
10-14-2009, 14:59
If science is to be believed, we all dream, assuming we get good enough sleep. Many, myself included, seldom recall our dreams. I have had nightmares, but I don't recall any about losing a camera. Usually it is something walking around in an embarassing situation of some sort. Sometimes I dream things like having fluent conversations in Spanish or Vietnamese. But I was never fluent in Vietnamese, although I spoke it fairly well once upon a time. My Spanish has pretty much left me as well. I haven't used either language for something in excess of 35 years.

Strangely, the other night I went to sleep with the TV on, and the National Geographic Chanel had a program about an African villager trying to get enough cattle to pay the family of the woman he wanted to marry. That was a strange dream!

I think I would settle for yours Mr. Hicks. But it won't happen, as I don't ever see a Leica in my future. Not even a FED. I will stick with my Kiev for an FSU and never venture into Leica-land, even in my dreams. I hope your dreams improve to where you can take self portraits of yourself dancing with royalty. :p
Well, there is that (having a Leica to dream about losing in the first place). This may be a very helpful image. Thanks.

But then again, the story of my first Leica is amusing. When I was 19-20 and my girlfriend was 17 or so, she wanted a reliable, versatile camera. For £20 she bought a Leica II (on my advice). After about 3 weeks she wanted it back, so I had to buy one of my own: a IIIa that cost me £30 (both with f/3,5 Elmars). I still have it, and have never been without at least one Leica since (M-series since 1974 or so).

I'll work on (dream) self-portraits of dancing with the Queen.

Cheers,

R.

migtex
10-15-2009, 02:08
I don't dream or have nightmares about Leicas (Nikon's on the contrary can give some bad hours, lol) found a solution ... focus on your breahting... make it slower.. and slower..up .. down.. up.. down.. .... up.... down...... up...... down........ there you get the ideia..in less tan 1 minute you going... no nightmares anymore... If you dream... keep on dreaming.

My dreams happens when I'm wake and that's the problem... they can turn on "need" feeling... got to stop dreaming!
Hope recovery goes well.

Carlsen Highway
10-15-2009, 02:34
Roger, I rarely remember any of my dreams. Really, I don't. But one thing I do know -

If you put too many extra strength nicotine patches on by mistake, you will have epic dreams, coherent and with a plot and supporting players, all in fully detailed texture and technicolour, as if they were shot by David Lean in Cinemascope and played in an IMAX theatre on the front of your brain.

btgc
10-15-2009, 02:54
Roger, if this really worries you, there always is a chance to spend budget of another lens or two visiting psychologist. Probably [s]he will make some conclusions depending on size of that particular Leica (and mounted lens, if this is the case). Fear of loosing....what? What that camera means for you? You will say, and they will charge you for helping to choose from list of possibilities.

When I were about 15, every other night I dreamed about train. Should I continue, I'm sure not.

Spyderman
10-15-2009, 03:51
At high school I used to have bad dreams about being in classroom in pyjama or even naked :eek: Or forgetting to write homework...
Recently they are about travelling in public bus and forgetting to mark the ticket and being caught by the conductor.

Mr_Flibble
10-15-2009, 03:52
Recurring 'nightmarish' dreams for me are the ones where I'm being chased by something or someone. I know this has something to do with my obsessive need to be punctual for everything.
It also involves dreams where I'm late for school/work/appointments and where I can't find my pants, shoes or something else critical for said appointments.

I've also had the dream where I've lost a camera over the side of a boat, but luckily it was just one of my Kodak 35s ;)

Of course like everyone else I have the dream where I get what I want, the girl, the camera the expensive house/car and I do wake up feeling disappointed.

And I apparently also talk in my sleep, and snore. ;)

Carlsen Highway
10-15-2009, 04:06
I had a girlfriend once who worked as a bank teller. She used to sit bolt upright in bed every night at 3.00am and say "Can I help you?" I told her she should put in for overtime.

Another time I used to work all kinds of long funny hours as a Port Agent and people would ring me at any time of the day or night... One time my wife told me my cellphone was ringing and I was lying in bed saying "Hello? Hello? HEllo??!" in my sleep.

Hector Negron
10-15-2009, 04:12
Almost my whole life, I've had vivid, sometimes disturbing dreams. Some over and over again. Some not so often, but they seem so real that I wonder about them for weeks afterwards. Some have seemed so real that I almost forget that they were dreams and I mistakenly think of them as memories, until I remind myself they were dreams.

Here are some. Some common to others, and some not so common:

1) Flying. This is a dream shared by many. In my dream, I know that I can fly. I'll be walking and feeling sure that I have this power that others do not have, when I'm fed up I will myself upwards and I just seem to float up. I usually only allow myself to go up ten feet or so. It seems very normal when I'm doing it. In other dreams, I fly very high, maybe in the clouds, but I think that I better not go so high because the "will" to fly might falter and I could fall. I dream this so often I usually "know" that I am dreaming in the dream. I'm aware that I'm asleep yet I feel I am really flying.

2) Moving but can't take my things. I am sometimes in college, sometimes in an old apartment. I have to move by the end of the day. I've put off moving for months, but now I HAVE to move. I have lots of valuable things, but I can't take them. I wonder what will happen to them. I leave books, cameras, money, things on shelves. I'm very upset at myself that I didn't make arrangements to move, and now I have to leave everything. I wonder if the people moving into the dorm room or apartment after me will steal them. I wonder if I can get an "extension", to come back later and get my things. This dream is vivid and common to me, I usually realize I am dreaming within the dream, and I tell myself this is not really happening, but it still feels frightening and disorienting.

3) Woman in the deep tunnel. This involves my ex-wife. I don't have this often, but when I did have it, it was so vivid that I felt it was real for several weeks after the dream. I often wondered if it WAS real, although it was impossible to be true. I won't go into detail.

4) Something is missing. In this dream, I perhaps have a bag of camera lenses or other valuables. Some are missing. I am very upset, I try to remember what I had before that is now gone, but I can't place it. I know something is missing. For years, I've felt somehow I lost a big bookshelf full of rare and valuable old books about 40 years ago. I actually don't remember if I did have those books, I think I did, or if this loss was a "missing" dream. I really don't know. I can't tell the dream from the possible reality.

5) Intense, realistic "cinematic" dream. This dream usually is like a movie. EVERYTHING is ultra-realistic. Different countries, elaborate "stage sets", intense and complicated "plot" that I follow. I see and hear dialog, things progress logically or illogically with sounds, smells, people, food. There are many "camera" angles. I'm aware it's a cinematic dream, usually near the point of waking up. At that point I frantically try to "remember" the dream, make some sense out of it or keep the thread of what's going on. When I wake up, I am sometimes astonished. I think if I could really have gotten that dream down on film, I would have made one of the world's greatest movies. It's very odd, and then I forget almost all of it.

bmattock
10-15-2009, 04:34
When I can remember my dreams, it is always the same. I dream of people fighting me. I am always a much better fighter than they are (in my dream), and I'm beating them badly, but they seem to take no notice of it, and they certainly won't fall down.

Gumby
10-15-2009, 06:30
No comment. ;)

Hector Negron
10-15-2009, 06:46
You just succinctly and accurately analyzed yourself.


When I can remember my dreams, it is always the same. I dream of people fighting me. I am always a much better fighter than they are (in my dream), and I'm beating them badly, but they seem to take no notice of it, and they certainly won't fall down.

JohnTF
10-15-2009, 07:48
Dear Roger,

It is helpful experience (to me) that Jorge actually dropped an M4 (in the case) about 15 feet on to the mounted CV 50mm and the camera and lens were repaired for a reasonable fee, it helps to know that such things can be over come. He had given up on the lens as it had absorbed the brunt of the event, but it survived with the aperture blades reinstalled and a few marks on the filter ring. The M4 mostly needed the RF realigned and adjusted.

Now that I sleep soundly (cepap) I do dream most nights, and several years after leaving a not so pleasant job, the frustration dreams have mostly stopped. The dreams where you are trying to do your job in the face of constant distraction, disruption, and though you keep going, you are hitting a wall. Very unpleasant.

I envy my friend Zu, who can dream, awaken, announce she is going back to a pleasant dream and continue where she left off. I used to provide ear plugs for my snoring, but the snoring is gone with the cepap machine, though I feel a bit like Darth Vader.

A trip to the insurance company might help with the fear of losing a camera, but you have reminded me I have not updated my policy to include newer items and delete the older ones. ;-)

A bigger fear is losing the images that are in the camera, or my files and negatives, even those which I will probably not get around to printing.

I suspect the "more summers behind" feeling also engenders the fear that some significant life's efforts will be lost or left incomplete?

A possible solution is to buy equipment in pairs and keep them separate, a solution endorsed by Leica AG. ;-)

John

JohnTF
10-15-2009, 08:02
Roger,

I just recalled the recurring dream that I am awake, but though I can see my hand in front of my face, I cannot move. (you are normally paralyzed, except for a few muscles, when dreaming).

Sometimes I realize eventually, after a lot of straining to move, that I am sleeping and wake myself up, often to find my hand is under the pillow.

The dreaming of lost items comes true when you cannot find some piece of equipment when you need it, almost worse than not owning it at all. ;-)

Then there are the occasional dreams where you awake feeling like a 20 year old and there are none about. ;-)


J

Max Cooper
10-15-2009, 08:26
I guess I'm one of the few that does have dreams about photo gear: I have dreamt infrequently that I've left expensive lenses laying around in the woods, and then I try to go back and find them and moss has grown over the elements. A few nights ago I dreamed I found an M6ttl at Goodwill, and I was going to buy it, but the price was as it would be in a normal camera shop. Also, the rangefinder patch was oddly shaped, like a cross.

Roger Hicks
10-15-2009, 09:30
This is fascinating: please keep 'em coming. I'm pretty much with Freud senior's Traume sind Schaume (dreams are froth) but there clearly is some feedback between dreams and real life -- Frances has photokina dreams for a few weeks before the show, where she can't get from Halle 3 to Halle 7 in time -- and we can learn things from dreams if we want to, because we can learn things from anything if we think about it.

I've had a couple of good ones like that, including one in a cave that was the anteroom to hell. I realized that we could go back out the way we had come, and before I did so, I urged the others to leave. They said, "No, we like it here..."

The great thing is that really, about the only thing that unites us is a love of rangefinders. After that, we're different in a lot of ways. I certainly have a lot in common with Hector: I'll add the dream in which you are getting on/getting off a train or bus, and can't load/unload your luggage fast enough, so either it or you is on/orr when the other is off/on.

Max's mosses are fascinating too, and make me wonder how much we have our own self-reinforcing dreams. As for John's paralysis, yes, absolutely, but 10 days ago I woke up unable to speak or breathe during extubation after anaesthetic. THAT'S a nightmare!

Thanks again, everyone.

Cheers,

R.

Roger Hicks
10-15-2009, 09:32
I had a girlfriend once who worked as a bank teller. She used to sit bolt upright in bed every night at 3.00am and say "Can I help you?" I told her she should put in for overtime.


At the risk of seeming vulgar, but remembering myself as a young man, I think I'd have replied, "Well, now that you mention it..."

Cheers,

R.

retrobabe
10-15-2009, 09:43
I think I have it just a little worse. English is my native language, I now dream in German - yikes!

bmattock
10-15-2009, 09:46
You just succinctly and accurately analyzed yourself.


I did? I guess I am missing it.

dee
10-15-2009, 12:51
I sometimes remember a dream , but ASdee mixes up what I call ; ' now pictures / before pictures / pretend [ brain created ] pictures ' - during waking .
It takes an effort to wrench ' me ' away from a waking dream [ such as cars I have owned overlapping over the current one , not so good on the motorway ] .
Cameras ? Sometimes , when I am surrounded , I enter into a Kiev dreamstate . But all kinds of wierd and wonderful worlds are visited . Maybe as the ' real ' world is out of phase , unreal , my head is trying to make sense of all it's files . LOL

JohnTF
10-15-2009, 15:29
I think I have it just a little worse. English is my native language, I now dream in German - yikes!


I sometimes dream in French, with long conversations, no French Postcard. I have been to France more than a few times had some long stays.

Usually, I am explaining something, and the conversation is structured.

No problem dreaming in Czech, about the only Czech I know is Prosim Pivo.

J

Jarle Aasland
10-16-2009, 03:39
I sometimes dream that I'm away on a great journey to some remote corner of the world, only to realize that I forgot to bring my camera. What a nightmare!

These days, I'm dreaming about a M9. So much, in fact, that I set up an entire web site dedicated to the dream: www.leicadream.com

Jarle

tom_uk
10-16-2009, 07:08
Apparently, some people can learn how to take control of their dreams:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dream



I have had one lucid dream, quite long - I remember it very well.

Almost 40 years ago I was the entertainments secretary for a small Further Education college in SE England; I was responsible for booking bands for gigs. Mostly we booked them in the College hall, but a couple of times we got ambitious and booked a ballroom associated with an entertainment complex in town. This particular dream started as a dream of embarrassment: it was gig night, the band were about to go on, the audience were there (it was a sell-out), and then the venue's manager appeared, together with a middle-aged lady to tell me that I'd got it all wrong: that this wasn't my night, the booking I'd made was for a different night, and I'd booked the band, had posters printed & had sold tickets for the wrong night. Every promoter's nightmare..... Except that for some reason I started thinking about what gig it actually was. I knew that I'd booked this hall for two gigs, and i knew which bands I'd booked for those gigs, and this band wasn't one of them. So, I reasoned, this must actually be a dream! I remember I explained this, with pleasure & delight, to the manager & the middle-aged lady, and then I got myself a drink, went down into the auditorium and decided to enjoy the band. I have a vague memory that I did just that, for quite some time, but eventually the dream drifted off into other topics and slipped out of my 'conscious dreaming' state.

But I remember the main part of it very clearly, and the fact that I knew I was 'consciously dreaming' and really, really enjoying it: there was no fear or alarm at all. In fact, I remember deliberately deciding to not worry about all the 'gig ,nagement' stuff that I owuld have been doing in a real gig: this was a dream, so it really didn't matter.

pevelg
10-16-2009, 10:48
Fascinating thread. Dreams are one of the most intriguing things for me. I dream almost daily and have also learned how to recall dreams. This usually involves concentrating and relaxing at the same time after waking up.

The most fascinating thing for me is that I visit the same realms (or whatever you wish to call this) in my dreams. For example, in one of my dream realms, I am in an ancient kingdom. Castles, vast fields, streams and mountains. I find that I am often in this realm, with different stories happening. Sometimes, it is the same story as I've had in the past. When I am dreaming, I know in part that it is a dream. So when the story is the same, I already anticipate the events. Interestingly enough, having consciousness of the dream state does not usually effect the dream. Most of my dreams are extremely vivid, as someone mentioned, almost like Cinema.

I am usually one of the characters in my dreams, though this does not have to be what I consider "self." For example, I once dreamed that I was a Mexican girl (i am a Russian male) and was stabbed in the stomach by a knife. I remember feeling the blood coming from my stomach as I lay on the ground bleeding.

I've also had a dream in which I either transcend or pass away, not sure which. I just remember that I felt like it was time to go, I felt a little nervous, and yet also at peace. Everything then turned white and I knew that all was over. The dream stopped there.

Another interesting one is where I remember the location of a particular place. As I am in that location in my dream, I remember every part of this house and have memories of events that may have taken there. The strange thing is that this is in no way related to real life. The place in my dream I have never been to before. And yet that place will appear in my dreams often.

Lots of my dreams have compilations of reality and fiction and involve various individuals I've met in my life.

Lastly, and most interesting to me, are the emotions I am able to feel in my dreams. One of these are love. I am currently single, which might contribute to these dreams. The odd thing is that some of the emotions in my dreams I do not have in real life. Though I've gotten really close to some people in my life, the emotion in the dream is slightly different and more euphoric.

I rarely have nightmares and am usually able to wake as they occur.

pevelg
10-16-2009, 10:56
That is intriguing. The question is, will it be kinder to help her learn dream recall rechniques, or to let her carry on without remembering? From my own experience of improved dream recall, I suspect the latter.

I think teaching dream recall techniques would be beneficial. My roommate rarely has (or is unable to recall) dreams and is always a little envious when I recall various dreams. Dreaming sometimes is like reading a great book or watching a good movie.

pevelg
10-16-2009, 11:01
Another interesting dream is one in which I play music. As seen in my profile picture, I am playing classical guitar. In reality, I am only just learning the instrument and slowly. In my dreams however, I will play various instruments and be very proficient. Also, I can "hear" the melody of what I am playing. And I have to say that the music is breathtaking. Even in my dream, I am amazed by the music being created. I've played the guitar, harp, cello, and other instruments that can only be invented in dreams. Yet each time the music is breathtaking. If only I can somehow transcribe that music from my dream to real life. Only once did I dream of singing, and I was very good. In reality, my vocals are terrible, giving me my first "C" grade in my post high school education (a vocal course).

Roger Hicks
10-16-2009, 14:09
Fascinating thread. Dreams are one of the most intriguing things for me. I dream almost daily and have also learned how to recall dreams. This usually involves concentrating and relaxing at the same time after waking up.

The most fascinating thing for me is that I visit the same realms (or whatever you wish to call this) in my dreams. For example, in one of my dream realms, I am in an ancient kingdom. Castles, vast fields, streams and mountains. I find that I am often in this realm, with different stories happening. Sometimes, it is the same story as I've had in the past. When I am dreaming, I know in part that it is a dream. So when the story is the same, I already anticipate the events. Interestingly enough, having consciousness of the dream state does not usually effect the dream. Most of my dreams are extremely vivid, as someone mentioned, almost like Cinema.

I am usually one of the characters in my dreams, though this does not have to be what I consider "self." For example, I once dreamed that I was a Mexican girl (i am a Russian male) and was stabbed in the stomach by a knife. I remember feeling the blood coming from my stomach as I lay on the ground bleeding.

I've also had a dream in which I either transcend or pass away, not sure which. I just remember that I felt like it was time to go, I felt a little nervous, and yet also at peace. Everything then turned white and I knew that all was over. The dream stopped there.

Another interesting one is where I remember the location of a particular place. As I am in that location in my dream, I remember every part of this house and have memories of events that may have taken there. The strange thing is that this is in no way related to real life. The place in my dream I have never been to before. And yet that place will appear in my dreams often.

Lots of my dreams have compilations of reality and fiction and involve various individuals I've met in my life.

Lastly, and most interesting to me, are the emotions I am able to feel in my dreams. One of these are love. I am currently single, which might contribute to these dreams. The odd thing is that some of the emotions in my dreams I do not have in real life. Though I've gotten really close to some people in my life, the emotion in the dream is slightly different and more euphoric.

I rarely have nightmares and am usually able to wake as they occur.

(With especial reference to the highlighted bits): yes, there is a house I know well in my dreams, even though I hae never been there. It has elements of houses I have visited but is hopelessly blended from all of them: a house I lived in, a house I considered buying, a friend's house, more.

And yes, although learning dream recall and the rudiments of lucid dreaming has meant that I have recalled more dreams that are unsatisfactory, it has also had the benefit that I can often awaken from nightmares or even from unsatisfactory dreams.

And yes, 'self' (or even several selves), and dying/not dying can be fascinating in dreams.

Cheers,

R.

Doug
10-16-2009, 18:33
I often put myself to sleep with pleasant thoughts of current photo projects or expeditions, etc. I seldom recall actual dreams, though, and then only the last part just before I wake.

Like Bill (bmattock) when I awaken from a dream it’s nearly always a situation where I’m defending myself against attack. Though I’m well-schooled in knife-fighting and firearms, there are never any weapons in the dreams. It’s always vigorous unarmed combat.

Unfortunately, I have an active sleep condition in which I physically act out the events of the dream (without being aware of my actual surroundings), so the results can involve lacerations and broken bones. As John said, we are supposed to “disconnect” while asleep, but I don’t. Obviously there is unacceptable physical risk in this; luckily there’s medication to calm it down.

Even so, a few nights ago I awoke after sliding smoothly and quietly off the edge of the bed to hide from attackers coming in the door... and I realized it was just a dream.

JohnTF
10-17-2009, 00:11
Sounds like the plot of several movies or books, are you keeping notes Roger?

One thing, at least in some dreams, I am doing better than in waking hours, or I used to. ;-)

The work/stress dreams led to a day where it seemed I was tired from sleep, which should be odd.

Some dreams involved very good ideas, and I thought I should have a paper and pen close by to write them down, as the details seemed to fade particularly quickly upon awakening.

J

Bob Ross
10-18-2009, 19:21
Symbol or Cymbal? Our dream languages seem to be uniquely talored to each of us. They follow our public and private metaphors. In the photography metaphor, it is like decoding the hidden meanings in various composition styles.
My wife is one of those who can recall her dreams every morning, so I hear a lot of dream stories. Her dream language is nothing like mine, but I have known her long enough to estimate some of her symbolisms.
My dreams that aren't very symbolic, but too real, repeat and are unsettling, have on several occations proven to be precognisive for me. A warning from a part of me that is really trying to get through, to ease the impact of the event.
As we mature and have most of the issues of life under control, we often invite change, since most of us are hooked on drama....cymbals? I suspect this can generate some unsettling symbol rich dreams.
A fun thread, thanks.
Bob

gb hill
10-18-2009, 19:33
I only dream about finding a Leica at a yard sale for $20.00:)

varjag
10-19-2009, 06:22
At high school I used to have bad dreams about being in classroom in pyjama ..

So, is your avatar related to that? ;)