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MarkoKovacevic
09-15-2009, 19:21
Hey all. My Olympus XA died while on vacation, and I'm considering picking up another one. My main concerns are:

The RF patch will be crappy.
I already have a Stylus Epic, which is pretty much the AF version of it. The only thing I don't like is the noise and possibly the build quality, though I have dropped it quite a few times. I have no need for the A-Priority, most of the time I just set it to the amount of light there is, 2.8 indoor, 8/11 out. The MF can be replaced by the spot focusing feature.

I'm not sure which lens I prefer, the XA's is far too sharp outdoors, makes everything look ugly.

I however, really enjoyed that I didn't have to replace batteries every 2-30 rolls, especially at $10 a battery, like the Epic is.

What's your take on this?

BillBingham2
09-15-2009, 19:41
Get another XA, perhaps this time an extra XA4 as a backup/alternative?

XA are the little camera that could, why change a great thing?

B2 (;->

Trius
09-15-2009, 19:42
If the XA is too sharp outdoors, just mis-align the rangefinder. ;)

Seriously, I'm not sure what you mean. Can you explain? What film do you normally shoot? I'm wondering if your dissatisfaction is something else, such as contrast, processing, etc.

Maybe neither the XA nor the Epic are your best bet. A Rollei 35 or some other comparable camera might be a consideration.

MarkoKovacevic
09-15-2009, 19:49
Umm, well the lens renders everything so sharply, especially nature shots, and I don't like that look personally. It also seems slightly blown out, undersaturated, and very sharp. I did really enjoy the color shots from that lens, but not BWs.

Finally, I'm not sure if I need it, as my two cameras [Leica/15mm and Epic/35mm] fulfill my photography needs. Is the general opinion that the RF patch sucks? Because I always found myself longing for my Leica RF or a AF system in less than stellar light.

planetjoe
09-15-2009, 19:49
To the OP: yes.

Off-topic, but I was at the Pasadena, CA camera show this past Sunday, and - I kid you not - I saw at least two XAs change hands there. Something about that little camera.

I enjoyed one for a while, but eventually found the RF/VF too squinty. I think, though, that I should have kept it for pocket use. I found it better to use than a P&S, at least for me.


Cheers,
--joe.

MarkoKovacevic
09-15-2009, 19:52
Personally, I found the VF[not RF] of the XA better than any of my cameras VFs, excluding the 15mm VF that came with that lens. Plus, with the XA I was always thinking, which one do I take...

burninfilm
09-15-2009, 20:05
Umm, well the lens renders everything so sharply, especially nature shots, and I don't like that look personally. It also seems slightly blown out, undersaturated, and very sharp. I did really enjoy the color shots from that lens, but not BWs.

Strange... I always felt the same way about my B&W results from my own XA. I just figured my film/processing choices weren't ideally suited for the negatives from the XA's lens. Results from C-41 film like Kodak Portra 160NC always looked great, however.

It's just interesting to see someone else thought the B&W from the XA looked different.

MarkoKovacevic
09-15-2009, 20:13
Results from C-41 film like Kodak Portra 160NC always looked great, however.

It's just interesting to see someone else thought the B&W from the XA looked different.

That combo=love

I never saw the XA as a BW camera. The vignetting, the super high sharpness, just seems suited for high contrast/saturation color.

amateriat
09-15-2009, 20:40
Just get another XA, okay? If it's in good shape, you know you won't regret it.

Mark: I used the XA with black-and-white film, no problem.


- Barrett

Trius
09-16-2009, 03:04
I would suspect the B&W processing could be tweaked. Like Barrett, I've never been displeased with b&w in the XA, but personal tastes are involved as well.

David Hughes
10-06-2009, 02:20
Hi, I don't know the situation where you live but I'd get the XA repaired. The alternative "new" one won't be brand new but about the same age and you will have spent money to stand still. A repair may clear up other problems, in passing, and you'll get back a camera that works like a new one.

Just my 2d worth. David

ZeissFan
10-06-2009, 02:33
If you drop your cameras frequently, I wouldn't get a Rollei 35. It has a metal top deck, which will become damaged very quickly.

Dave Wilkinson
10-06-2009, 05:03
My XA was very sharp outdoors, and - would you believe it? - indoors too!, but this did'nt seem to make things look 'ugly', in fact they looked just fine!. For a similar amount, you could get a Lomo, or Holga, that might be unsharp enough, but personally with such indecision over a cheapo camera, I'd think about taking up fishing, or something similar - in stead!;)
Dave:)
PS I've heard of people smearing a little vaseline on a uv filter, and holding it in front, to combat exessive sharpness!:D

MarkoKovacevic
10-06-2009, 10:55
My XA was very sharp outdoors, and - would you believe it? - indoors too!, but this did'nt seem to make things look 'ugly', in fact they looked just fine!. For a similar amount, you could get a Lomo, or Holga, that might be unsharp enough, but personally with such indecision over a cheapo camera, I'd think about taking up fishing, or something similar - in stead!;)
Dave:)
PS I've heard of people smearing a little vaseline on a uv filter, and holding it in front, to combat exessive sharpness!:D

It's actually a pretty expensive camera - for me as a student at least. :P I don't own any M leicas, only a old screwmount one :D
I have taken up fishing actually!

shadowfox
10-06-2009, 12:08
It's time to give XA4 a try.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3429/3853193766_ba0af48414_o.jpg

... be careful, it is sharp as well. :angel:

Dave Wilkinson
10-06-2009, 12:22
It's time to give XA4 a try.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3429/3853193766_ba0af48414_o.jpg

... be careful, it is sharp as well. :angel: I'm mailing the vaseline tomorrow! Will :D

feenej
10-06-2009, 12:55
I'd say yes.

I have been through three XAs now. All dropped, lost, or broken. I got an Olympus Stylus with a 35mm f3.5 lens- it won't do long exposures, so I'm looking for another XA.

mackigator
10-06-2009, 13:19
I buy them two at time now.

shadowfox
10-07-2009, 08:20
I'm mailing the vaseline tomorrow! Will :D

That's cool, Dave, but I'd rather use my wife's old stocking to get that diffused effect ;)

not_in_good_order
11-10-2009, 12:59
I definitely think you should buy another. I think that it looks great stopped down a bit and you can always slip it into a pocket for when a photo opportunity pops up at random:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2627/3857684862_ceec7e163f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/3857684862/in/set-72157622537041879)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2526/4084764560_7b0c37e3a1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/4084764560/in/set-72157622537041879)

btgc
11-10-2009, 13:17
got an Olympus Stylus with a 35mm f3.5 lens- it won't do long exposures, so I'm looking for another XA.

I this qualifies as your agreement to use AF P&S, then Mju II or Stylus Epic (depending where you are) could fill the bill. I adored mine before I discovered manual focus cameras :)

Trius
11-10-2009, 14:26
How do you zone focus and shoot quickly with a Stylus? :D

agi
11-10-2009, 16:08
Will you have to stop spreading our secrets about the XA4 ;).

Speaking of and don't mean to hijack but who does repairs on XA's anyway? I'd love to get my XA4 fixed but afraid it might cost too much.