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mtokue
03-24-2005, 06:57
I thought that a thread which listed all the lenses that we have used on the Rd-1 (Owned or Borrowed :D) would be of interest to all here, and perhaps some comments on any quarks, Tips or points of interest with regards to using that particular lens on the RD-1 ( Like Jim Watts Tip on choice of LensHood)
& Perhaps an attached shot taken with said Lens.
Well, what do you all think?
Mike

& Perhaps even a shot with the Camera & Lens?

pfogle
03-24-2005, 07:34
On my gallery:
28/1.9 Ultron
50/2 Jupiter 8
40/1.4 Nokton
21/4 Color-Skopar
50/2 Summar
pix of 21 on camera

On my wish list:
All the Leitz lenses! ;)

cheers
Phil

JonasYip
03-24-2005, 11:00
On my R-D1 I've used:

28 cron
35 lux ASPH
50 lux
75 lux
C/V 21/4
C/V 15
C/V 12
Hexar 90/2.8
135 APO telyt
50 Summarit

But of these the ones that I'll usually carry now are the 28/2, 50/1.4, 12 and maybe the 90. My favorite 35 lux ASPH is not getting much use on the R-D1...

Unfortunately, I don't have R-D1 pictures posted anywhere at the moment. That will be rectified at some point, maybe...

J. Borger
03-24-2005, 13:00
I used the 35/2 and 50/2 summicrons and 75/1.4 Summilux sofar.
In this gallery are some samples with the crons ....

http://www.shutterfreaks.com/gallery/album94

I will update that gallery on a regular base.
Still try to figure out how to create a a gallery in the galleries part of this forum ... but i can't even login in the galleries!

Han

Ed Schwartzreic
03-24-2005, 13:19
12/5.6 Heliar
28/2 Summicron
35/1.4 Summilux (old)
35/1.4 Summilux Asph
35/2 Summicron (old 8-element and 3rd version too)
50/1 Noctilux, 2nd version with removeable hood; hood blocks RF patch image, so do not use hood; a favorite lens
50/1.4 Summilux Asph
50/2 Rigid Summicron
75/1.4 Summilux
90/2 AA
65 Elmar (black) on Viso
200/4 Telyt on Viso
Reprovit IIa -- a wonder combo for digital capture of images

krimple
03-26-2005, 07:44
Ok, on the R-D1 and the Leica CL, I use:

C/V 15mm Super Wide Heliar
C/V 28mm f/1.8 Ultron
C/V 35mm f/2.5 Pan II Color Skopar
C/V 50mm f/1.5 Nokton

All for < $1000, and many of the lenses have close to Leica quality. Until I sell off my 20D system and decide whether to go whole hog into a large format system, or purchase some higher end lenses and upgrade to an M6, that's what I'm using for now.

The 35mm f/2.5 Skopar is the best pocketable lens I own. Great image quality, but a tad slow, so for indoors I waffle between the 50 f/1.5 and the 28 1.9. I tend to like the quality of the 50 image for head and shoulder portraits better, but the 28 has a better FOV so I use it if I'm indoors close up with kids.

The 15mm Heliar is a bit tricky for me--since I'm used to DSLRs and their exact viewfinders, and the 15 has some pretty strong parallax issues up close (as all w/a rangefinder lenses do) I tend to chimp a bit more with those shots. I do have the D viewfinder for the 15.

If I'm taking a portable kit I usually pocket one lens and mount another, and carry the camera. My combo for indoor is the 28 and 50, and for outdoor it is the 35 and the 15.

Ken

pfogle
03-26-2005, 11:09
Ken, like you, I suspect, I got the CV lenses after the shock of the price of the body! I have no regrets re the lenses, I've the 21 where you've got the 15, and my 50's a Jupiter 8.

I did a trip to Venice last month. Sadly, I hadn't got the R-D1 then, but I took the 20D, and a 15-30 sigma. The results are on my website, www.philfogle.com and I have to say I wouldn't sell the 20D after that experience. There are some things you can't easily do with a rangefinder. I really enjoy having the best of both worlds.

Phil

Jim Watts
03-27-2005, 01:20
I own and use:
VC 25m f/4
Summicron 35mm f/2 (Canada 1975)
Summicron 50mm f/2
Tele-Elmarit 90mm f/2.8

I have tried/borrowed:
VC 15mm f/4.5
VC 28mm f/3.5
Summicron f/2 (Canada 1985)
VC 40mm f/1.4 Nokton

The lenses that get the most use at the moment are the VC 25mm and the 35mm Summicron. The 25mm VC is not rangefinder coupled but its (rough) equivalent of 35mm lens on full frame 35mm would be my normal first choice. I don't use an add on finder as I find the total viewfinder area of the R-D1 past the 28mm frame lines is close enough.

My 35mm Summicron as it is coupled gets the most use. My lens and others of this vintage forward focus by about 3 inches at 5 feet on my R-D1, but its not much of a problem now I know. I use the Summicron 50mm hood on this lens to reduce flare.

I had a fairly long loan of the VC 40mm f/1.4 Nokton which I used with the R-D1 35mm frame lines. A pretty good match. While not quite as sharp and a bit more contrasty than my 35mm Cron I think this is an excellent lens. Really great value.

I am still waiting to get my hands on the VC 28mm f/1.9 as this has excellent reports here and elsewhere and the slightly wider angle with frame lines in the viewfinder should suit me fairly well. Price in the U.K. has just come down on this lens as well.

I hope to find some time to put some pictures in a gallery soon.

krimple
03-27-2005, 01:27
Oh, here are some samples for each lens (they are my best recollections--one of the issues with the R-D1 is that you can't get the lens information from EXIF, so I'm picking these based on memory):

The 15mm Heliar:
http://www.rimple.com/gallery/rcache/bdd9050f89a89fa6ff8eae604d981da8.jpg

The 28mm Ultron(I'm pretty sure this is the one):
http://www.rimple.com/gallery/rcache/7489941d09b67bedc7076444839d0c6e.jpg

The 35mm f/2.5:
http://www.rimple.com/gallery/Blog_Related/Winter/EPSN3020.jpg

The 50 Nokton:
http://www.pbase.com/krimple/image/39950138.jpg

Benjamin Marks
03-27-2005, 05:45
I have recently been testing various 50mm lenses on the R-D1. The list follows. I have just joined this forum and don't have any images posted yet, but would be happy to share data with those interested.

50/2 Jupiter-8
50/1.5 Canon s/m
50/1.5 Summarit
50/1.5 Nokton
50/2 Summitar
50/2.8 Elmar
50/2 Summicron (80's)
50/2 Dual Range
50/1.4 Summilux (70's)
50/1 Noctilux
50/2 Zeiss-Ikon
50/2 M-Hexanon
and . . .
40/2 Summicron-C
35/1.7 Ultron
35/2 Summicron
35/1.2 Nockton

I have found that the LCD screen is not particularly useful for evaluating the differences between these lenses (although you can get a sense of the out-of-focus areas by jogging through a series of snaps and seeing how things change as you progressively stop down).

My most recent experiment was a series of images of a still life scene (flowers, table, reflected halogen lighting) all shot from the same position (camera on tripod). The first two series were shot with the R-D1 on its "High" JPG setting with the camera's default settings for sharpening etc. I am happy to share the images with anyone who is interested (although it may entail mailing a CD, 'cause it's a lot of data). However, my initial impression is that that the differences between these lenses can be seen as differences in contrast, not necessarily in "sharpness". Perhaps a set of RAW images would show differences between lenses more clearly. No problems focussing a 90/2 or 75/1.4, although it requires some care with focussing. Untested but enjoyed lenses include V/C excellent 21/4, 25/4 and 28/1.9

Like several reports, I sent back my first camera (s/n 001880) because the vertical allignment was off out of the box (also a back focus problem). Epson replaced it with my current camera (s/n 45xx) which has other minor differences in how the camera feels (more "snap" to the jog dial, for example). It is interesting to me that there is that much sample variation in the build of the cameras. After some helpful hints from Ed Swartzreich (another Vermonter!), I've got the vertical allignment issue on the new camera sorted out.

And like several other members of this forum, it was Sean's helpful and balanced impressions of the camera that nudged me over the edge to purchase. Thanks, Sean!

I hope to share more of this information with the forum as I'm able to process data. Best regard,

Benjamin Marks

sreidvt
03-27-2005, 07:02
Benjamin,

Another Vermonter! It's a small state...you and I and Ed should get together sometime.

Cheers,

Sean

DanielT
03-27-2005, 09:35
I am using Tri-Elmar 28-35-50

Daniel

driggett
03-27-2005, 09:49
Daniel,
I like you picture the blue and green colors of the water subdivides the picture nicly with the trees framing and the bridge pointing the way to the house!
Cheers,
Chris

David Kieltyka
03-27-2005, 16:57
I have quite a few M & LTM lenses but the ones I'm using most often with the R-D1 are the CV 28 Ultron, Leitz 40mm Summicron-C, Zeiss 85mm Sonnar and the new Zeiss M-mount 50mm Planar. The Sonnar (c. 1940) is one of my favorite lenses and I'm pleased it focuses accurately on this camera. I've included a photo I took with it this evening in my neighborhood at sunset. f/2.8 at ISO 200.

-Dave-

jlw
03-27-2005, 17:41
Here are some I just did for the Canon forum with a 100mm f/2 Canon lens; just boring test images, but sufficient to get some idea of the imaging characteristics:



Click here for f/2.0 (http://homepage.mac.com/jlw/images/canon100/100f2-20.jpg)
Click here for f/2.8 (http://homepage.mac.com/jlw/images/canon100/100f2-28.jpg)
Click here for f/4.0 (http://homepage.mac.com/jlw/images/canon100/100f2-40.jpg)
Click here for f/5.6 (http://homepage.mac.com/jlw/images/canon100/100f2-56.jpg)



They're big -- full 3000x2000-pixel images at JPEG Maximum compression -- so you may want to download them to view at leisure, rather than using your browser to see them.