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iceman
09-20-2007, 21:39
i found myself a XA few days ago and brought it out for a test run. here are some sample photos.
i find the focusing isnt as easy as it seems, the yellow patch is sometimes hard to see. maybe it's because im wearing glasses?
but anyway it's a nice camera to use and it goes nicely into the pocket, anywhere , anytime.

tri-x @ 400, HC-110 dil Bhttp://img72.imageshack.us/img72/5417/tunnelot7.jpg

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5516/growthwt3.jpg

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/652/walkwayej9.jpg

steamer
09-20-2007, 21:49
I find the focusing patch to be hard to see until I move it, then it seems easier to see. No glasses here.

Terrence
09-20-2007, 21:58
this is at singapore?

what you can do to increase the contrast on the rangefinder patch is, darken your VF a little.

fWord
09-21-2007, 02:57
It's a nice little camera that's very unobstrusive and useful for stealthy shooting...much less confronting than an SLR. I had one in the past, together with an XA2. Did not keep the XA for very long because of the difficulty I was having with focusing. However a 35mm lens at f/2.8, plus the aperture priority on the camera is excellent.

wgerrard
09-21-2007, 05:09
Just got an XA yesterday and shot a roll to check it out. I'm terribly nearsighted and wear eyeglasses (compressed progressive lenses that still aren't exactly thin).

I can see the focus patch with no problem. It's small, though, about 50 percent the size of the patch in my Bessa R4M. Focusing was dicey in less than bright light. Moving the focus lever was not a problem, but, in those circumstances, seeing anything change inside the patch was a problem.

I can't see the shutter speed indicator unless I angle the left side of the camera toward my face. Even then, it's a challenge.

Ran into some camera shake until I figured out how to get my big hands around the little thing. The shutter is quiet, but is not the hair-trigger light touch that I've seen it called.

The sprockets on mine did not fully engage the film until I closed the back. The rewind was arduous.

iceman
09-21-2007, 09:34
steamer: yes, that is quite true. once u move the tab then it gets easier.

terence: yeap. singapore. and how do u darken the VF?

gerrard: its hard to see the shutter speed needle because of the glasses i think. i have that problem sometimes with my other cameras. your shutter button isnt sensitive? mine is so sensitive i hit it by accident more than once.

Santafecino
09-21-2007, 10:05
Everyone--
Has anyone figured out how to mount a filter on an XA?

I can somehow do without a lens shade, but shooting Tri-X without a yellow filter is very unrewarding.

And yes I do love my 2 XAs--one bought new in London in 1980 and still treasured.
--Lindsay

mich8261
09-21-2007, 10:07
Hey iceman, welcome to the forum. I like the first shot a lot. I am looking for an XA myself. I want something that can stay in my work bag all the time. I missed a great photo op last week and I don't want a repeat.

mich8261
09-21-2007, 10:09
Everyone--
Has anyone figured out how to mount a filter on an XA?

I can somehow do without a lens shade, but shooting Tri-X without a yellow filter is very unrewarding.

And yes I do love my 2 XAs--one bought new in London in 1980 and still treasured.
--Lindsay

Lindsay, do a search on filters for digital P&S. I remember seeing some contraption for the "old" Olympus clamshell digital P&S cameras a while back.

sniki
09-21-2007, 10:21
On my XA and XA4 I use square resin Cokin filters, with the relevant point &shoot universal camera adaptor, I found cheaply in Toronto at Henry's outlet shop.

sniki

rich815
09-21-2007, 10:34
I like it because it's so light weight and the sliding shell closing cover. I'm amazed at how sharp it is too, blows my Stylus Epic out of the water.

Santafecino
09-21-2007, 10:34
Michel & sniki--Thanks for the info--Lindsay

rich815
09-21-2007, 10:51
"....shooting Tri-X without a yellow filter is very unrewarding..."

Really? I've tried shots with and without yellow filters and did not really see a very significant difference other then perhaps some slight increase in contrast in the suppresion of some of the blue light. Can you show some examples that make you think it's so " very unrewarding" vs. with a yellow filter? Not denying it has it's purpose at times but that's a bit of a blanket statement for a filter that's generally considered fairly subtle.

jesse1dog
09-21-2007, 13:27
On my XA and XA4 I use square resin Cokin filters, with the relevant point &shoot universal camera adaptor, I found cheaply in Toronto at Henry's outlet shop.

sniki

I agree that the Cokin 'point and shoot adapter' originally made for small digital cameras seems to be the answer to the filter issue. It takes Cokin 'A' series filters.
I've just got my hands on one that I found on Echo-bay and am playing around with it on my 35 RC - it folds flat for storage and screws into the tripod socket. There is a lot of adjustment possible to get the filter just where you want it. What it does to the rangefinder when a filter is fitted is going to depend on the camera. It certainly is going to slow down your picture taking.
Took me several weeks to track one down because I think they are discontinued!
j

wgerrard
09-22-2007, 07:56
Iceman: Using it today, the shutter speeds were easier to see. I noticed if I pull my eye back a fraction of an inch they are more visible.

The shutter on mine is not in at risk of going off by mistake. No force is required, but it definitely is not hair-trigger. I recall reading, somewhere, that others have noticed this on their XA's, too.

I had it out yesterday soon after sunset on a roofed east-facing patio. Still a reasonable amount of light, but the focus patch was visible only if I pointed at a white wall. I'm thinking of sending it for a CLA after running several rolls of film through it, just to see if anything goes wrong. If the focus patch can be made brighter and I'm comfortable that the shutter isn't going to stop working, I could be using this little camera a great deal.

Stanton
09-22-2007, 08:56
I have two XAs. I wear progressive glasses (nearshighted). As to the difficulty seeing the focusing square, check Rick Oleson's site for his discussion on blacking the center of the viewfinder with a felt tip type pen. That will increase the contrast. If you don't like the result, simply wipe off the ink. The other "work-around" is to use the marked in red hyperfocal distance on the distance scale on the lens. If you are using the camera in reasonable light outside with 200 - 400 ISO film and an aperature from about f8 or smaller, this will get you in focus without worrying about the rangefinder. A 35mm lens has significant depth of field. I shot several rolls in Lake Tahoe CA last week, largely using hyperfocal distance on my outdoor shots from about 8 feet to infinity. They were very sharp.

I have no problems seeing the shutter speeds, but maybe that's just my good luck.

Dave

iceman
09-22-2007, 09:08
thanks for the welcome Mich8261. you should get the XA, you can take it anywhere you go!

Stanton: thanks for the tip. ;)

prestonchan
09-23-2007, 08:58
the shutter speed scale is a little bit hard to see for me as I wear glasses and I used to stick my face on the camera very close...

it takes me some little practice so I can see the scale everytime I put my camera on my face.

the RF square...is really hard to see sometime, I tried put a small piece of color transparent over the whole VF window, which helps a little, but at last I just use a black tape masking part of the VF and it works great.

jesse1dog
09-23-2007, 09:22
Got round to taking a picture of the Cokin 'point and shoot' filter attachment fitted onto my XA3. Didn't put in a filter but as its squre you can tell it covers the viewfinder and just about everything else.
It must be an idea worth pursuing but I have yet to try it myself!!!!

Trius
09-23-2007, 19:41
That Cokin thing is UG-LEEE!!!

BTW, I recommend a yellow-green filter as an alternative to the yellow. Helps with contrast in foliage as well as darkening skies a bit. It's also good for Caucasian complexion.

jesse1dog
09-24-2007, 03:19
That Cokin thing is UG-LEEE!!!.

I never said that I LIKED the look of the Cokin contraption but does it really matter if it provides an opportunity to get effects you cant get in any other way.

Or are there other ways of mounting filters on the XA?

The contraption (a good description) is adaptable to fit on a variety of cameras so the stock of Cokin filters is not camera dependent - no looking for 43.5mm screw filters that may or may not engage in that old Oly 35RC I have.

I'm not bothered what I look like, and don't care what my camera looks like when taking photos. Perhaps I should!

iceman
09-25-2007, 03:38
question:
the XA meter uses cds cells, so that would mean a lag in the meter to adjust itself. i've lost a few shots because of this, since i just whip the camera out of the pocket, quick focus and snap; which might be too fast for the meter to adjust?

does anybody have this problem?

Trius
09-25-2007, 04:25
Jess: LOL ... I wasn't slagging you of course, and if it works, it works. For me I it would detract a bit from the joy of using the XA, a part of which is the sheer elegance of the design. But I don't have a better solution myself, so it may be the only practical way of using filters.

Iceman: No, I've never experienced this problem. All my exposures are good with the exception of tricky lighting where I don't compensate. The meter is fast enough to settle in between the time you open the camera and click the shutter, at least for me.

shadowfox
09-25-2007, 07:21
Got round to taking a picture of the Cokin 'point and shoot' filter attachment fitted onto my XA3. Didn't put in a filter but as its squre you can tell it covers the viewfinder and just about everything else.
It must be an idea worth pursuing but I have yet to try it myself!!!!

Looks like your XA3 has been impounded :p
I think if you paint the filter holder firetruck-red, it'll look awesome.

mackigator
09-25-2007, 08:25
RE: "darkening your rangefinder patch" I've used the following trick on one of my XA's, and it improved my ability to focus especially in low light.

http://rick_oleson.tripod.com/index-165.html

iceman
09-27-2007, 06:34
i think there is a problem with my XA.
the metering seems to be quite inconsistent.

the cds cells in the meter window right above the lens seem to move in a weird way when i change the iso. and when i change the aperture, the cds cells in that window only moves in one direction (it moves when i switch from f11 to 2.8 but not f11 to f22)

any thoughts?or am i not getting how to use this?

DavidC
10-03-2007, 05:36
Like many of you I have enjoyed shooting with the XA until the focusing patch became dim. I find that I can still use the XA in bright light situations but that is about it. Why Olympus did not choose to make the patch brighter in such a small rangefinder is beyond me. Cost, most likely. Other than that a great all around camera to have!

Trius
10-03-2007, 19:47
I think it was as much the physics of the vf assembly as cost. Has your XA been cleaned recently?