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04-28-2007, 12:43
Ok we have had whats the best Leica ever made, so the question is whats the best camera Leica never made. not confined to rangefinders.
For me Its the Nikon F4.

back alley
04-28-2007, 12:49

04-28-2007, 12:52
I agree with the F4 - in the electronic 35mm SLR catagory.

In the mechanical 35mm RF category, there's the Canon P and Nikon SP.

In order not to be comparing apples and oranges, you'd have to divide it up into all the diff. categories.

04-28-2007, 12:59
Oops I missed the first one

04-28-2007, 13:02
I would say the Nikon S2 and the Zorki 3.
Leitz should have made an Ltm camera after WW 2 with a 1:1 VF.

04-28-2007, 13:35
Yet another vote for the F4. Greatest tripod SLR I think. Nice clear, traditional controls, that can be read withouthaving to wake the camera up. Exposure compensation that can be adjusted with positive clicks. I shot F4's for my stock photography work- and they proved to be quite bulletproof, going strong in the desert or in 35 below zero F.

04-28-2007, 15:48
Nikon SP, Pentax LX

04-28-2007, 16:09
Loved my Pentax LX's too! but I never liked them in the hand- too hard to hold. They did brass beautifully.

04-28-2007, 17:09
My formative years with 35mm were in the pre-autofocus era with a Nikon F3HP and MD4 drive - about 500,000 frames in three years working for a paper. I had an FE2 during this time as a backup which shot maybe half that many frames.

I'll have to go with the F3HP - a mechanical and automatic genius of a camera. I still envy the 85mm/f2 AIS images and wish my pre-asph 90mm Summicron was as good wide open.

04-28-2007, 17:21
I would have to say the Nikon F3HP for all the reasons above, but in the eighties and early nineties I just loved the feel of the Nikon FM2 in my hand with a 50mm f1.4. Shweeeet!

04-28-2007, 17:33
The Olympus OM system in general. My personal favourite is the OM-4T.


04-28-2007, 18:03
I think the Olympus OM system is the most Leica-like SLR. I picked up an OM-2 with 50mm, and am thinking of adding another lens or two--even though I have a Leica R outfit. My OM-2 fits the hand just like my my Leica IIIc. It feels even smaller than an M. Now the question is how good are the lenses. And the prices! $700 for a 40mm f/2!

I might also vote for the XPAN as the best camera Leica never made.

Al Patterson
04-28-2007, 18:14
My favorite non-Leica is the Canon A-1 SLR. I have two of them.

04-28-2007, 18:19
I'm fond of the Pentax Spotmatic cameras, tough and dependable. I was not as fond of their M42 screw mounts, but, as with bottom loading Barnacks, you get used to it. Superb glass and stop-down metering. Plus all the M42 lenses will fit right onto the Pentax DSLR cameras with the addition of a $20 adapter.

mike goldberg
04-28-2007, 19:21
For me it's Olympus OM, Fed-2 and Bessa R.

back alley
04-28-2007, 19:33
the minolta cle gets my vote as the best leica that leitz never built.

i loved the canon t90!
and the om cameras, both the om 1 & 2.

04-28-2007, 19:48
In the SLR category, IMHO, OM-1 and the Nikon F2 tied for different reasons. The OM for it's small size and low noise, the F2 for it's robustness and flexability.

In the RF category, Nikon SP.

B2 (;->

David Murphy
04-28-2007, 22:02
Essentially all the Canon LTM rangefinders after Canon started down the road of making modern-like 35mm cameras with hinged backs and rapid winders. Canon sort of picked up where Leica left off and kept going.

04-28-2007, 22:06
The CLE, the ZI, or the Hexar RF.


04-28-2007, 22:10
SLR: canon EOS 30V:)
rangefinder: contax II:) :) :)

04-28-2007, 22:50
The *best* implies only one camera, in that case:

OM-1 for simplicity, reliability, viewfinder, size, and construction.

04-28-2007, 22:58

04-29-2007, 00:11
Depends on the usage.
When weight doesn't matter: Hasselblad CW 503
The F4 is a great but heavy SLR, so I prefer the Minolta XD 7/11
But from the few RF's I have used it is the ZI

05-05-2007, 12:11
Yashica FX3 super 2000
A very underrated cheap and simple mechanical slr workhorse. And its size is smaller than my yashica electro 35 GSN (which is my rf favourite).

05-05-2007, 13:44
Nikon S3 and SP, F and F2.

Wayne R. Scott
05-05-2007, 14:09
Rollei 35S
Canon P
Nikon F3HP
Rollei Baby 4x4
Olympus OM1
Crown Graphic 4x5
Canon F1n
Contax IIa

These are the ones that I use that I think are good cameras, not made by Leica.


06-12-2007, 23:30
For me it has to be the Nikon F4

06-12-2007, 23:50
Rollei 35
Rollei 35 S
Nikon FM2n

06-13-2007, 00:03
OM 2, Nikon F, super ikonta 533, Rolleiflex....yashica lynx

06-13-2007, 00:45
Epson R-D1s

06-13-2007, 01:48
Olympus om1 and some of the bigger nikon Fs previously mentioned

06-13-2007, 02:21
I would have to vote for the Canon T-90 for automation and meters. For when weight didn`t matter, Canon F-1, the take anywhere do anything with camera, with FD L glass of course.

06-13-2007, 07:25
Ok we have had whats the best Leica ever made, so the question is whats the best camera Leica never made. not confined to rangefinders.
For me Its the Nikon F4.

If you mean the camera they should have tried to develope when SRL were mainstream then it has to be the OM-4 Ti... People who like rangefinder Leicas like small size and probably do not need autofocus but I am sure they would love to have a small SLR with a precise multispot meter system and a motor which works (not that Leica motors never do but I would not count on them for anything important).

If you meant the one they really did not make, unfortunately for them, then it is the Nikon F.


06-13-2007, 09:58
second the r-d1s...

or ricoh gr1

06-24-2007, 01:53
Reflex. Nikon F4.
RF. Konica Hexar RF.

06-24-2007, 02:48
Olympus OM

06-24-2007, 03:31
Canon T-90. Outstanding features, great user interface, all in all a fantastic camera.

06-25-2007, 04:24
Konica Hexar AF