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back alley
04-04-2007, 18:39
do you have a fixed lens camera in addition to your interchangeable rf camera?

just wondering as i seem to almost always have a fixed lens camera around but never seem to use them or not very much.
i usually grab the digital if i want a p&s camera.

joe

Wayne R. Scott
04-04-2007, 18:51
Yay!!! I voted first. What do I win?

Of course I own both. And no, I don't use the fixed lens as much as I should.

Wayne

sbug
04-04-2007, 18:54
Both. I use them about equally mostly because my fixed lens (Canonet) can shoot shutter priority while my interchangeable (Nikon S3) requires a separate meter. Essentially, I can be lazier with the Canonet. ;)

oftheherd
04-04-2007, 19:45
I have both, although my only interchangable lens RF is a Super Press 23. I have only about 3 fixed lens 35mm RF's. The favorite is the Canonet QIII.


back alley - don't you salivate for MF RF again? ;)

back alley
04-04-2007, 19:51
salivate, not really...maybe drool on occasion ;)

amateriat
04-04-2007, 20:01
Yes, interchangeable (a pair of Konica Hexar RFs) and fixed (Konica Auto S3). The forner used more than the latter, mostly because the latter needs work (off to Nippon Photo Clinic, very soon).

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=33448&d=1159153692


- Barrett

Bingley
04-04-2007, 20:05
This is a timely poll. I was thinking about a travel combo for a vacation in May that would include one of my Canons and my S2.

foto_fool
04-04-2007, 20:09
Right now I'm using the interchangeable bodies more because I am close to home. When I travel the Hexar AF and/or Yashica T4 travel with me, along with the <gasp> Panasonic LX2 in my briefcase.
- John

Flinor
04-04-2007, 20:35
I always have the Contax T in my pocket, even if I'm primarily using the CLE or M5. I've also got a Voigtlander VF-101(Zeiss Ikon S312 clone) that is on of the nicest compact fixed lens RF's I've ever seen and rarely use it, probably because the T is so nice. This from the guy whose owned and used at least one copy of every Yashica leaf shutter camera made.

pvdhaar
04-04-2007, 21:21
I jump started my RF photography with a Hexar RF fice years ago. I never considered adding an old second hand fixed lens RF after that..

wlewisiii
04-04-2007, 21:28
Still have the Contessa. More chrome than a late 50's Caddy... ;)

William

mjflory
04-04-2007, 21:39
... i seem to almost always have a fixed lens camera around but never seem to use them or not very much.
i usually grab the digital if i want a p&s camera.

joe

Exactly my experience. But I was inspired by this thread (http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39044) to get out the Konica S2 and take a walk. I'd forgotten how sharp that lens is!

Ronald M
04-04-2007, 21:57
45 years ago I owned my first camera, Waltz Envoy RF with 50 Nikor fixed lens. All my college pics were done with that camera. I bought a set of aux lenses that were junk. Yes I hated the fixed lens. Even used a 2 1/4 Rollie for the yearbook. Craved different lenses.

After graduation a Pentax Spotmatic with 6 lenses was purchased and I used that until I got hooked on an M3 that made those Pentax/Takumar pics look sick. A 125 Hector was mixed onto a roll of slides with homemade adapter. The difference was like night and day.

Since then there have been more M`s, Leica R`s, a few 4x5 settling on a Zone IV with interchangeable lenses 90 to 300.

There is even a Rollie 35 Tessar mixed in 5 years ago with a fixed lens I don`t mind so much anymore.

Latest is a Canon A610 digicam with a fixed zoom.

Forgot the 111C and 111F that are like new but needed new curtains and cla.
These are a joy to use as they fit your hand like nothing else. If fitted with a bayonet to take modern Leica lenses they woud be perfect.

Got way to much stuff I know.

George Bonanno
04-04-2007, 22:29
I don't think so.

Best,
George

wintoid
04-05-2007, 00:11
I've an RD1s and an R2a, and yet I just cannot stop using my Olympus 35SP. That camera is addictive. I've just bought a copy of Ansel Adams "The Negative" and am hoping that the metering method of the 35SP will be really useful for this.

Pherdinand
04-05-2007, 00:18
i did use my hi-matic 9 for quite some rolls, and i did use the GSN for many many many rolls, and they produced me many favourite images... making me think why the hell do i own a leica

Pepe
04-05-2007, 00:20
Only a 35RC. I sold the Zorki's because I didn't use them on account of the weight. I can just as easily lug my SLR around as them.

I don't have the cash for a lighter, interchangable system right now.

iml
04-05-2007, 00:29
I have a couple of Olympus 35s, an RC and an SP. I use the RC all the time, the SP not enough.

Ian

sattva
04-05-2007, 00:45
Yes, interchangeable (a pair of Konica Hexar RFs) and fixed (Konica Auto S3). The forner used more than the latter, mostly because the latter needs work (off to Nippon Photo Clinic, very soon).

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=33448&d=1159153692


- Barrett

Same here. Only one Hexar for now, needs some RF tweaking, hope to take DIY route, and same situation with S3 :)

350D_user
04-05-2007, 00:50
Both. If you count a Zeiss Ikon 518 as well, I've three fixed lens RF's (Olympus Trip 35, Olympus XA2), and one interchangable.

Igor.Burshteyn
04-05-2007, 01:03
I use kiev for affordable sonnar optics, and oly 35sp for bright viewfinder, spot metering and overall easy of use. Have electro 35 as well but it lost its case to oly 35sp.
wintoid: cameras are addictive beasts, but olys somehow most addictive of a bunch. Addiction is combination of good user properties and affordable price. Btw if you into zone system the most intuitive "real" camera with regard to exposure would be OM4(t) - in manual exposure you just spot meter shadows and highlights and you immediatelly see contrast range, and can place your exposure wherever from scene black point to scene white point, with all possibilities in between. Oly 35sp (as any camera with spot meter) allows the same with just a little more hassle.

wintoid
04-05-2007, 02:48
wintoid: cameras are addictive beasts, but olys somehow most addictive of a bunch. Addiction is combination of good user properties and affordable price. Btw if you into zone system the most intuitive "real" camera with regard to exposure would be OM4(t) - in manual exposure you just spot meter shadows and highlights and you immediatelly see contrast range, and can place your exposure wherever from scene black point to scene white point, with all possibilities in between. Oly 35sp (as any camera with spot meter) allows the same with just a little more hassle.

Hi Igor,

Not to sidetrack the thread, but just to say that I have an OM4 but really don't get on with it, despite what everyone says about how RF-like they are. The 35SP is another matter, and I love it to bits. Quite tempted to sell a lot of stuff and get a black 35SP (hey it might as well look lovely as well as being lovely and addictive to use).

Igor.Burshteyn
04-05-2007, 04:12
yes I understand what you mean :) it's mystical relationship of photog with his preferred camera (everyone has at least one) - without any visible connection to features, logic or whatever, it just works well together. Pick up another camera, maybe miles ahead in terms of features or even image quality, and it stops working, your pictures become dull, boring snapshots.

GeneW
04-05-2007, 05:01
Some of both. My most-used RF is the fixed-lens Olympus XA I carry in a pouch on my belt. Funny, I usually stick with 50mm on interchangeable lens RF's so I mostly use 'em as fixed-lens models, with only occasional lens changes. And my Bessa L is dedicated to hosting a CV 21/4.

Gene

Kin Lau
04-05-2007, 05:48
Oly XA is my most used fixed-lens RF, followed by the Canonet GIII QL17. I do have a ton of other fixed lens RFs, all with faster than f2 lenses and cheaper than anything I could get for my LTM or Kiev mount systems.

It's hard to beat the Bessa R for the VF and Kiev + J9 for sniper-like shots.

peter_n
04-05-2007, 05:59
The only thing that stops me from using my Canonet more is focusing. The VFs on the Leicas are very clear but the Canonet can be difficult to focus sometimes.

pesphoto
04-05-2007, 06:10
I have both.
Fixed users - XA,GSN,lynx 5000e
interchangeable - Bessa R with J8,J3 and CV 35mm

The XA goes with me to work and back.
When I go out shooting it's usually the Bessa R, unless I want to do some quick people shooting on the street, then I grab the GSN.

David Goldfarb
04-05-2007, 06:13
My briefcase camera that goes just about anywhere is a Voigtlander Perkeo II with a 75/3.5 Color-Skopar and shoe-mount Widor rangefinder. I've owned other fixed-lens cameras, but that's the only one I currently use. Here are a couple of Perkeo II shots--

http://www.echonyc.com/~goldfarb/temp/N,NewJacket,CP,Feb2004.jpg

http://www.echonyc.com/~goldfarb/photo/towers.jpg

rbiemer
04-05-2007, 06:47
Both for me.
Though the fixed lens camera I use most isn't quite a RF; I have been using the Retina 1a more than either of the true RF fixed lens cameras I have.
But I am running a roll of film through the Lynx 1000 I've had for a while and not used before--if that one works as well as it seems to, it'll be put into the mix.
Rob

Xmas
04-05-2007, 10:19
Joe

Interchangable rfdrs, P&S and SLRs, but no fixed rfdrs. Depressed my fav an XA4 is broke.

Noel

Simon Larbalestier
04-05-2007, 10:57
I use both types

For 35mm: interchangeable RF's; Lecia M's and Xpan 1 and TX-2
For 120: fixed lens RF's; Plaubel Makina 670 and Fuji GW690 III

I did use interchangeable 120 RF's; Mamiya 6 and 7 series and Fujica BL G690 and the Horseman VF 690 but over time i found them too bulky for constant travel and airline restrictions.

NickTrop
04-05-2007, 11:04
I'm in the fixed lens RF camp. First off, I went through the "must have every focal lenth under the sun" fetish with my SLRs, and still have most of those lenses: 19mm, 24mm, 35mm, 50mm, 85mm. Then it dawned on me, I like 50's most. So I use the GSN and the Lynx 14e IC primarily because they have a narrower FOV than most others. Next I like a semi-wide compact. So the Yashica Electro CC (35/1.8) and the Konica Auto S3 (38/1.8) get good use.

Interchangeable lenses I use an SLR because "it's there". The SLR almost always has the Jupiter 9 attached, used for portraits.

For most general photography, street photography, I prefer the advantages of a fixed lens rangefinder: cost/value, excellent "no frills" fast sharp optics (sans the expense of the "designer" interchangeables), fill flash capability (which I indeed use), quite leaf shutters, uncomplicated framelines that always match the focal length with many being parallax corrected. I like the convenience of a built in meter on the 135's (I'll meter the Iskra and my MFs, always) no worries about theft or drops, durability, and (frankly) 95% of the quality of pricier "designer" i-lens models.

Now I'll get space-y. On a fixed lenser's the lens and the camera are "one" and work in harmony with each other.

I shoot 35 for convenience, MF for optimal quality.

mikeb380
04-05-2007, 16:37
I said I had no fixed lens in the vote, I lied. I have a Zeiss Nettar 6x9 Vf with an add on RF. It is a very nice camera. I like the way it folds up and can go in a shirt pocket or a vest pocket. I also have som 6x6 and 6x7 as well as the Kodak retinas ( VF). I have about 3 127 film size, a Kiko, a Korelle, and a Zeiss Baby. All told I have 24 fixed lens cameras, all VF except for the Kodak Retinette. Of course I can use the rangefinder on any camera with a shoe or just hand hold it if I want. I have about 12 interchangable lens RF, mostly Fed, Zorki and a couple of Argus C3s. I have an EXA, a Kiev 88, and a Canon F1 in SLR, not to mention the EOS 300D. I have a zorki 2C black body which I would love if it wasn't so hard to load.Why is it that I used Leicas years ago and had no problems? I guess I turned into a clutz? The baby Ikonta is a nice camera also but needs shutter cleaning. I'm looking forward to getting that running, I can hide it up my sleeve, like a derringer. :p
So, there you have it.
Michael

richard_l
04-05-2007, 17:08
I have Leica M6, M3, M2, and Rollei 35, 35 S. I use the fixed lens Rolleis about 80% of the time.

ErnestoJL
04-05-2007, 17:14
Both types for me.
My everyday camera is the YE35 or the Mamiya SD while on vacation both the Contax and Kiev plus some other cameras (RF fixed lens or SLR) find itīs place.

I got to admit that I forgot almost completely the SLRs...

Ernesto

thorirv
04-07-2007, 16:16
i love polls... polls are, nice. and fantastic. but... like with market research, i find myself compelled to... ehh, lie. sorry, joe, i lied ;)

arbib
04-07-2007, 16:16
The months of March/April has been a restocking kind of think for me after I sold most of my Bessa R2 kit.

I bought a Zorki 1e in March, and in April, I won a Canon QL17 (With 45mm F/1.7 -- Ver 1) today on the "Bay for $44.00...Caims to be "Cleaned and working"

mikeb380
04-08-2007, 02:08
I had a huge fixed RF camera. Strange to think of it as a RF, it was a 6X9 speed graphic. I don't think that would be a good one for low light. I didn't know you could get different lenses for it so it never entered my mind. I loved that clunker, even carried it to the top of the Washington Monument and then back down, walking both ways. I got some wonderful shots from up there. wish I could do that again.
I wish I could walk it without the camera!!
Michael

Andrew L
04-12-2007, 03:04
M3 and Super Ikonta. The latter is currnetly being serviced and I miss it a lot -great camera.

shadowfox
04-12-2007, 06:36
Fixed only.

So far I only have fixed-lens RF. The XA and 35 ECR are my favorite pocketable RF's. The Rollei 35 S, Oly Pen D2, and Oly 35 Trip are not far behind though.

I have a Canonet, but it pales in comparison with the Oly 35 SPn. Recently acquired a black 35 SP (no, I didn't pay 300 bucks for it :) )

PS: Say, why can't we incorporate remote images anymore? I usually see the image link icon, but it has been removed.

dee
04-12-2007, 13:04
Other than a Zorki 4 in the 70s , I have always had SLRs , the rangefinder comfort is new to me .
But i never got on with fixed lense camera - though , wait for it - i usually use just a 45 / 50 / 35 lense ...
so an interchangeable lense camera isn't required at all !
I think it's an anxiety that I CAN change lenses if I ''need '' to , but this might be an ASdee / autisic glitch thing .

dee
04-12-2007, 13:08
i guess that I could add to that, that i love fast lense , 'cos I can't cope with flash - like my 35 f1.8 / 50 f1.4 / enormous Rokkor 85 f2 ! ... but now I love my Fed / Leica with modest '' I 22 elmar ''... but in them days 100 ASa was fast - 25 / 64 ASA slide films anyone ?