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Igor.Burshteyn
12-23-2006, 23:19
Things sometimes interconnected in this world - and strangely enough. Oly 35SP for sale had showed up in classified ad on local internet site - just when Trius was writing his "Try a 35SP. Major GAS induction" in "O.T. Why do you love your Oly" thread. And before I have never seen Oly 35 RFs here on sale. So folks help me to withstand this GAS attack (really, don't) - show me your best pictures with yours Oly 35SP. Is it really that good? Will OM1 shooter be at home with its ergonomics? How that lens on 35SP compares to OM 50mm with regard to sharpness? And finally those that happen to own both OM1 and 35SP - do you use both equally or favour one of them while other is sitting in the shelf?

zuikomatt
12-24-2006, 01:22
Igor,

I just shoot my first film with Oly SP, same scans from Superia 800(scans were made in local lab) are here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/zuikomatt/Family/photo#5010748326747555426

http://picasaweb.google.com/zuikomatt/Bratislava

I am not shure, which time and F I used, just know, the night photos were full open and handheld.

To your questions: ergonomics is good, body feels good in my hands.
What I'm missing, when comparing with OM system, is DOF scale on the lens.

Anyway, it's very nice camera, worth subject of GAS attack:-)

This is all I cann say from my short experience.

Trius
12-24-2006, 05:41
Igor: Some of my 35SP shots are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/1406642/

Shot under a variety of conditions, exposure information not recorded, etc. Some are even with a close-up lens attached and focus is by measuring the distance from the film plane to the subject.

Rich Silfver has several SPs, including a couple of black beauties, so you might want to see not only his gallery, but also his blog for September 2006 (http://silfver.blogspot.com/2006_09_01_archive.html); scroll down to the entry "Sunday, September 17, 2006
Shooting with the Olympus 35SPn".

The lens is excellent, and for me the camera is extremely comfortable in the hand. You may find the EV metering system to be non-intuitive at first.

The viewfinder is superb! I am not going to try and compare it to every other RF in the world, but let me just say that while grainhound's M2 is the best viewfinder I have ever seen, going back to the 35SP is not a huge letdown. The 35SP is a joy to use, and if I could only keep one fixed RF, it would be this one. The only major improvement would be an f1.4 lens, but then it might not balance the same. (That said, the OM 50/1.4 is fairly small, with 49mm filter thread. Hmmmm.)

I also like the 42mm field of view as opposed to 50mm. I am a wide guy, and 42 is about perfect compromise between 35 and 50.

I will not, however, try to put out your GAS. :D

Igor.Burshteyn
12-24-2006, 06:38
ev metering system - I got used to meter with LunaPro, so it's not a problem. I need in-camera meter to go down at least to 5ev - this is my usual (1/30s, f2)@400iso for poorly lit room. 2ev would be even better for those situations where we benefit from 3200iso b&w films.

Trius
12-24-2006, 17:39
The SP meter goes down to EV2, but only in manual mode. IIRC, the limit of the auto mode is EV5, so you should be fine with that.

Igor.Burshteyn
12-24-2006, 23:02
Thanks for information! 2ev in manual mode - sounds great. I don't think I will use 35SP in auto mode anyway.

femto
12-25-2006, 08:45
I have to agree to the others! the camera is worth every cent!

after a heavy GAS attack I bought a Canonet G3 QL17, an Olympus 35 SP, an Olympus XA and a Yashica Electro 35 GSN, but the only camera I'm using at the moment is the Olympus 35 SP.

shots I made with the Olympus 35 SP are on my Monochrome Pictures (http://monospot.de/) website. further shots will follow when I have scanned the five rolls of Fuji Neopan 400 CN I have put through the Olympus the last weeks. :D

~HD

Trius
12-25-2006, 09:28
HD: Very, very nice!

Hiyawaan
12-25-2006, 09:55
I had one and they are great. Solid build, tack sharp lens & fast, nice Bokeh, good ergonomics. My SP had a spot meter button too, not sure if they all have one though.

Trius
12-25-2006, 10:23
They all (SP, SPn & UC) have the spot meter. I use the spot meter 80-90% of the time. The one thing I would change is the ASA range. I'd love to have the meter go to 3200.

femto
12-25-2006, 13:38
HD: Very, very nice!
thanks Trius! :)

here are some more freshly scanned images from this wonderful old camera and lens:

http://monospot.de/thumbs/Engel-im-Schaufenster.jpg (http://monospot.de/Engel-im-Schaufenster.html) http://monospot.de/thumbs/Karussell-in-der-Nacht.jpg (http://monospot.de/Karussell-in-der-Nacht.html) http://monospot.de/thumbs/Lebendige-Krippe.jpg (http://monospot.de/Lebendige-Krippe.html) http://monospot.de/thumbs/Nikolaus-beim-Skat-spielen.jpg (http://monospot.de/Nikolaus-beim-Skat-spielen.html) http://monospot.de/thumbs/Sammelsurium.jpg (http://monospot.de/Sammelsurium.html) http://monospot.de/thumbs/Silo.jpg (http://monospot.de/Silo.html) http://monospot.de/thumbs/WinterWonderLand-1.jpg (http://monospot.de/WinterWonderLand-1.html) http://monospot.de/thumbs/WinterWonderLand-2.jpg (http://monospot.de/WinterWonderLand-2.html) http://monospot.de/thumbs/WinterWonderLand-3.jpg
(http://monospot.de/WinterWonderLand-3.html)
more to come! :D

~HD

rpinchbeck
12-25-2006, 14:30
For more examples of this fine camera have a look at my Olympus SP Gallery.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=5817

Can't go wrong with an Oly SP!

Cheers,

Russ Pinchbeck

rpinchbeck
12-25-2006, 14:31
For more examples of this fine camera have a look at my Olympus SP Gallery.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=5817

Can't go wrong with an Oly SP!

Cheers,

Russ Pinchbeck

shadowfox
12-25-2006, 15:41
Although my XA occupies a semi-permanent spot in my jeans pocket, it is the 35 SPn that I bring to special occasions like Christmas celebration at the church.

The EV metering is so intuitive, I usually just set the shutter/aperture combination to 7 (with aperture between 2.8 and 1.7) and leave it there for indoor b/w portraiture and candid in a well-lit area (some examples here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mastaka/sets/72157594361144572/)

... and finally I got to take another pic of the camera itself, just rummaged through my tower of filters and got a Y2K for my OM camera, which fits perfectly on the G.Zuiko :)

back alley
12-25-2006, 16:07
i want an sp now!!

but they are kinda pricey...

Trius
12-25-2006, 17:26
Russ: Those are really fine; I especially like the park bench and the Simmons factory shots.

Shadow: Sweet! I like the repetition of the yellow in the cola. It is nice to be able to share filters with the OM.

shadowfox
12-25-2006, 19:55
Trius: thanks! I almost finish the bw roll with the yellow filter on, it'd be interesting what the outcome will look like :)

Joe: Knowing what I know now as far as the capability of the camera, I'd pay the typical price for a good 35 SP(n) on eBoy which is between $75-175.

Igor.Burshteyn
12-25-2006, 23:17
wow! I didn't suspect there were so many Oly 35SP rf shooters here - OMs used to get more publicity on rff. Now I am GASified and just as back alley want 35SP now.

back alley
12-26-2006, 06:46
i have a 35rc that has not seen much use lately. i had it cla'd awhile back and it was running great though.
i may put a strap on it and take it for spin soon.

and if anyone sees or has a nice user sp please let me know.

joe

lshofstra
12-26-2006, 13:30
Hm... I've used an SP but couldn't get pictures as sharp as what I see here, in fact
I had the feeling they were inferior to pictures taken by an ECR, which is the camera which got me on the RF track, by the way. Looking at the pictures above it's perhaps just this one camera - or me. I'll have to give it another go.. I really like the 42mm as a standard lens.

MelanieC
12-26-2006, 14:58
I have a black Olympus 35 SP. I find that I don't use it that much. In terms of build quality and handling my M3 is much closer to the OM (or I guess I should say it the other way around). The ergonomics are pretty great, it's a very attractive camera and takes great photos, but usually if I want to carry a rangefinder I'm going to be carrying my M3 and on the non-M3 days, I tend to be carrying my OM for something different.

The two things I like least about the camera are the plastic feel of the lens (it's very smooth but doesn't seem solid) and the way the advance lever sort of flops around loosely (I know it was done that way on purpose, to be able to sort of rest your thumb there, but it isn't my cup of tea). The things I like best about the camera are the nice bright viewfinder and the really easy to use meter, except when I have trouble seeing it (for some reason my eyes don't want to focus that close sometimes, maybe I'm getting old?).

I usually find that with black and white I would like a little more contrast than the lens normally gives and have to do more in post-processing than I do with my Leica lens (50mm Summicron). I have finally gotten a 49mm filter (green) for the 35 SP and am looking forward to seeing results with it. The lens is extremely sharp and I have no other complaints about it.

A black and white photo taken with my black 35 SP and Tri-X 400:

http://i5.pbase.com/o5/34/723934/1/69873461.xHdldT2d.solo_fortfun_sp_1.jpg

A color photo taken with a borrowed 35 SPn and Walgreens 400 color film (the Fuji stuff):

http://k41.pbase.com/o5/34/723934/1/70011636.hKPBmz7I.spn_10.jpg

ruben
01-10-2007, 01:58
......Oly 35SP. Is it really that good? Will OM1 shooter be at home with its ergonomics? How that lens on 35SP compares to OM 50mm with regard to sharpness? And finally those that happen to own both OM1 and 35SP - do you use both equally or favour one of them while other is sitting in the shelf?

I will understand your question in the famework that you are not asking what is better, either the OM1 with a 50/1.8 or an SP with its 42mm fixed lens. Otherwise we will be having a chat like strap or wirst, RF or SLR.

Rather, the abovementioned options may complement each other, according to what will you be shooting.

Within the single lens approach, in my very subjective viewpoint, the 42mm SP lens focal lenght is a more economic, compact, and straighforward way to avoid the 35~70 zoom. This is not the case with the 50mm, which mathematically is more on the center. With the 50mm lens you have no lurk to moderate wide angle. The 40 or 42mm lens can compete in the same grounds as the 35mm lens and the 50 mm altogether.

With the Sp, most of the chances are that you will be focusing faster, or easier, than with the 50/1.8, due to the winning combination of good yellow patch and focusing lever of the SP.

SPot metering is another advantage against the centerweight metering of the OM1. And a much quieter shutter too.

So within this lines, regarding your OM1+50 as a fixed lens combo, instead of the basis of an slr MODULAR SYSTEM, and provided you do not shoot closer than 80cm. you may find if the SP better answers or complements your shooting, or not. Besides there is allways the possibility that you will subjectivly more comfortable with the rangefinder, than with SLR. Or more comfortable with the SP than with the OM1.

Ergonomicaly, the SP is perfect. The OM shooter will find itself at the same Maitani home.

Cheers,
Ruben

Igor.Burshteyn
01-10-2007, 12:37
Well, folks. Thanks a lot for your help in struggling this GAS attack. We didn't succeed and lost this case, together. It's 11:25pm local time, I am sitting in front of a nice 35SP. It's a beauty, and it's mine. It's not any near to mint - user camera - but: meter is spot on, optics are pristine, auto mode is ok, all speeds sound positively correct. I got it with original case and paper work for $40. Now it's loaded with film and waits for action. It won't be simple - I have already kiev 4 and electro 35. One of them must go - too many cameras - and kiev doesn't go, for sure. So it will be fight 35SP - Electro 35.

Henryzx
01-10-2007, 16:38
My daughter - a surprise snapshot

Trius
01-10-2007, 16:42
Igor: Congratulations! But I'm not sure what you mean by "-too many cameras -" ... that's a foreign phrase here on RFF. :D

But if you must ... the Yashica loses.

Henry: Very nice candid shot.

Igor.Burshteyn
01-11-2007, 00:47
quick snapshot of 35sp taken by digicam of my collegue (can not beat that digi for speed). I hope I will finish film soon and have some results by 35sp to post here.

ruben
01-11-2007, 02:58
I LOVE the case !

PS:
Although for most of my cameras I have to build my own so that they fit with a hood mounted on the lens ("EVER READY")

femto
01-12-2007, 11:30
I LOVE the case !
Yes, I too! ;)

Got the same with my Oly 35 SP and it is really nice! :)

~HD

Xmas
01-12-2007, 13:09
Henry

The girl does not have enough soft toys or photos, buy mum a book on making soft toys and a bulk film loader.

Noel

ruben
01-13-2007, 01:59
Henry

The girl does not have enough soft toys or photos, buy mum a book on making soft toys and a bulk film loader.

Noel


HENRY !
I forgot to tell you the most important: What a beautiful daughter you have ! My heart gets out to be at your home with my TLRs!

PS
Noel, excuss me for ridding on your postl.:)