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thmk
01-05-2005, 11:05
Hi,
are there any half-frame rangefinders out there? Most cams I found were kinda P'n'S or the lovely Pen SLRs from Olympus.

Thomas-Michael

peter_n
01-05-2005, 11:36
The only one that I know is the Pen-FT. Your post made me look it up on eBay - one going in 14 mins. for $27!! :( :( I loved that little camera way back when but I was never able to own one. Now they're going for next to nothing...

furcafe
01-05-2005, 11:37
http://www.subclub.org/shop/35mm.htm

peter_n
01-05-2005, 11:39
Wow great resource furcafe! :)

pshinkaw
01-05-2005, 12:34
I don't think any of them came with triangulation rangefinders except for the specialty Leicas which used regular production Leica bodies as their base. Most were scale focusing. Some like the Canons had zone focusing scales in the viewfinders. The Konica Auto Reflex, Alpa, and some special purpoase Exas as well as the Olympus F and FT were of course SLR's, and Konica also made an autofocus called the AA35.

There is the matter of the Yashica Samurai. I'm not sure whether it was autofocus or SLR. Does anybody know?

-Paul

thmk
01-05-2005, 12:42
The Yashicas are both - AF and SLRs.

jlw
01-05-2005, 13:34
Originally posted by pshinkaw
I don't think any of them came with triangulation rangefinders except for the specialty Leicas which used regular production Leica bodies as their base.
-Paul

Don't forget the super-rare Nikon S3M, likewise based on a full-frame body.

jlw
01-05-2005, 13:39
Oops, just found another coupled-rangefinder half-framer at that notorious auction site:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4701&item=3864611492&rd=1

CleverName
01-05-2005, 13:50
Originally posted by pshinkaw
There is the matter of the Yashica Samurai. I'm not sure whether it was autofocus or SLR. Does anybody know?

-Paul

I've got a yashica Samurai that I tried to give away but nobody wanted it. It's an autofocus SLR with a zoom in around the 35/70 range (35mm equivilent). It has a built in flash and is program only exposure. It looks kinda like a small video cam and is really easy and kinda fun to use. My local lab puts two pictures on one 4 by 6 photo. Having 48 shots per roll can be great but I usually don't use them all and take a few quick shots of my dogs just to use up the roll.

pshinkaw
01-05-2005, 13:55
Forgot about that one. I gues it's just the Leica's and Nikon's then.

-Paul

pshinkaw
01-05-2005, 14:02
That Ducati must be pretty rare.

I use up film on my dog too. He's pretty tired of it. He doesn't run away, but he frowns at me.

Actually a Samurai that works is pretty rare. Almost every one I've seen on e-Bay has been broken.

I used to request that the processor print two 3.5 X 5 prints on on one 5X7. It cost a little more but I got pictures that would fit in albums and frames without squinting too hard.

-Paul

akalai
01-05-2005, 15:28
Hi there,

what about the Zeiss Ikon Tenax II? Looks like a pretty impressive camera and shoots 24mm x 24mm....I think....even has interchangeable lenses and quite simply looks HOT!

akalai
01-05-2005, 15:40
Thought this might be of interest,

ZEISS IKON TENAX II:

http://www.pacificrimcamera.com/pp/zeiss/tenax/tenax2.htm

jlw
01-05-2005, 17:27
The Tenax II is pretty cool, but most of us consider 24x24mm to be different from "half frame" (nominally 18x24.) If you're going to count the Tenax, then you'd have to include various 24x24 Robots, too...

furcafe
01-05-2005, 17:31
Yes, the Tenax II is tres cool (I have 2 w/the 4cm/2 Sonnar), but as jlw points out, they're really more 2/3rds -frame . . .

Originally posted by akalai
Hi there,

what about the Zeiss Ikon Tenax II? Looks like a pretty impressive camera and shoots 24mm x 24mm....I think....even has interchangeable lenses and quite simply looks HOT!

akalai
01-05-2005, 17:42
...the Robot isn't a range finder camera. ;)

OK well enough of being a smart ass, no I just really like the look of the Zeiss Tenax and if I could both afford one and justify owning it I would.....does anyone on here actually own one? And what about the rare wide angle lenses for it.....anyone ever seen them or used them? I just think that if you could get a good considtion example it would be a real contender to my Rollei 35 (all be it in a slightly smaller format, but I love the SQUARE format anyway....)

OK well thanks for the info anyway, chat soon, AKALAI

akalai
01-05-2005, 17:46
Hey there Chris,

I posted my last response before seeing yours....

Have you ever seen the wide angle lenses for the Tenax II or used the wider angle lenses...I am really curious. I think I saw a pic where one had a small accessory viewfinder mounted now that is TRES COOL!

Doug
01-05-2005, 18:45
That Ducati is pretty nifty! I hadn't realized there had been any coupled-RF cameras created for the half-frame format. My third or fourth camera was a Petri Half-7, simple viewfinder and AE operation. Later I had an Olympus Pen D2 which I traded in on the 35RC that was only a tiny bit larger, shot full-frame, and DID have a coupled RF. And I think that pretty much points up the reason for the decline of half-frame.

furcafe
01-05-2005, 19:00
No, I've never seen the 2.7cm/4.5 Orthometar or
7.5cm/4 Sonnar for the Tenax II, outside of books, although I have seen the Tenax w/the 4cm/2.8 Tessar on eBay. I'm not sure that anyone on the Zeiss Ikon Collectors Group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZICG/) has even seen 1!

BTW, Mike Elek, who often posts on the photo.net "Classic Cameras" forum, has a Tenax which he restored himself & has written a nice article on his site: http://host.fptoday.com/melek/zeiss/tenax_ii.html

I agree w/Mike that the Tenax is not only a neat industrial design (by the great Hubert Nerwin, see http://www.zeisshistorica.org/Nerwin%20cameras.html) & cool-looking, but also a really nice shooter in the field. The shutter/advance lever works well, the Sonnar is a good performer (just like the 5cm/2 for the Contax), & the focus lever is convenient (if you like focus tabs). 1 nice feature that Mike doesn't mention is that the Tenax actually has a true life-size (1.0x) finder, which is pretty rare in RF cameras (I can only think of the full-frame Canon P & Nikon S2).

Originally posted by akalai
Hey there Chris,

I posted my last response before seeing yours....

Have you ever seen the wide angle lenses for the Tenax II or used the wider angle lenses...I am really curious. I think I saw a pic where one had a small accessory viewfinder mounted now that is TRES COOL!

jlw
01-05-2005, 19:13
[QUOTE]Originally posted by akalai
...the Robot isn't a range finder camera.

The Royal 24 (24x24mm) and Royal 36 (24x36mm) have rangefinders.