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st3ph3nm
11-04-2004, 00:30
Guys, I thought you'd be interested:

A dealer in Australia (Queensland, it seems), has just posted a bunch of old stuff on ebay. Including:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15234&item=3850115754&rd=1

Gotta love this bit:
"If they could only make cars today like they made these cameras, a person would only have to buy one in a life time"

They surely don't know anyone here! :D

And this one stands out:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15234&item=3850117131&rd=1

Gorgeous old things.
Oh, remember, the Aussie dollar may well be worth half of what you guys play with, but shipping could well be very nasty! Still, nice to look at, doncha t'ink?

Cheers,
Steve

FrankS
11-04-2004, 04:42
I have exactly the same model as that first camera. Right down to the f6.3 lens!

sfaust
11-04-2004, 04:55
Frank, how is the lens on the Nettar? I'm looking for 120 folder with an excellent lens. So many choices, but no knowledge of the lens quality.

FrankS
11-04-2004, 06:27
Because these cameras are so old and because of their construction (folding) I think the variation between specific cameras and their specific histories, plays a greater role in the quality of results they produce than the design of their lens. Having said that, the theoretical performance of a lens increases with the number of elements. (triplets perform more poorly than Tessars, etc,) You wouldn't want to have to make more than 3x enlargements with many of the very old folders, they weren't designed to offer that kind of performance. People in those days just didn't make much more than contact prints with cameras like that. They were the snapshot camera of their day. Beginning in the 1950's, or even earlier, technology from the war was applied to consumer products (specifically lens coating) and performance increased. Agfa, Voightlander (sp?) and Zeiss made great folders. I also have an Ensgn Selfix 820 6by9 folder with Ross Expres lens that performs very well. (It's for sale!)

sfaust
11-04-2004, 07:57
Why didn't anyone tell me about this site before.... I could have spent far more money if I had. I found it while looking for info on the Selfix 820, thanks to FrankS!!

http://www.amdmacpherson.com/classiccameras/index.html

It a great collection of technical info and photo samples from a very large variety of classic cameras. Having found it could be expensive!

wlewisiii
11-04-2004, 09:16
Originally posted by sfaust
Frank, how is the lens on the Nettar? I'm looking for 120 folder with an excellent lens. So many choices, but no knowledge of the lens quality.

If you want an excellent folder with an exquisite lens, you might want to check out an Iskra. I've been extremely pleased with the one I bought from www.fedka.com It's a 75mm tessar that is one of the most amazing lenses I've ever used.

William