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MP Guy
03-03-2006, 19:38
Would you be willing to pay for attending a rangefinderforum.com conference? The conference would be in Oregon or California. More information to come as the concept develops.

JT

ch1
03-03-2006, 19:42
Yes, but with about a 9 to 12 month lead time.

Or 3 to 6 if you could do it in Tucson! :cool:

back alley
03-03-2006, 19:45
we have lovely conference facilities in edmonton...or in the canadian rockies...even the west coast of canada in vancouver.

sounds like a great idea but budget would be a great concern for me.
joe

squeaky_clean
03-03-2006, 19:47
I could never afford it unless it was within a day's drive... but it sounds like fun nonetheless.

sherm
03-03-2006, 19:47
Definately!!.... Only question I have is why West Coast? How about a meet in the middle, like Chicago for instance

Just wondering

Thanks,

Scott

Gabriel M.A.
03-03-2006, 19:49
Only yes or no? I'd love to; but for how long, what are the subject matters/choices? And price...?

So, maybe. I would like to a lot, yes.

sf
03-03-2006, 20:04
It sounds like a great idea - it would be really nice to get all the serious members together in once place - just imagine the density of conversation, the gear admiration and trading that would occur. Wow.

Trouble is only money. I have none, so making a flight somewhere to do this would be very difficult. I think that maybe regional conferences. . . . ? Maybe make it easier for some people to handle it financially.

dadsm3
03-03-2006, 20:07
Has to be centrally located.....anyone one have a geographical map of where most members are located? Oh oh, new poll?
Chicago is a GREAT town, I'm in. Kind of unfair for any of our members across the pond....but go ahead and give me an excuse to go to NYC...I'm in for that too. West coast is far for all....except West Coasters and Asian members.
Fantastic idea....
Mike (dadsm3)

dostacos
03-03-2006, 20:15
Definately!!.... Only question I have is why West Coast? How about a meet in the middle, like Chicago for instance

Just wondering

Thanks,

Scott
Chicago??? have you EVER been to Chicago? been there too many times. darn near froze my tush off. [went to Northwetern U. in the loop, NOT Evanston campus] then they tried to kill me with tornado warnings, then the humidity....I think there are only three nice days a year in Chicago [between seasons execpt spring summer which just changes the misery index :D ]

California sounds just fine to me

dcsang
03-03-2006, 20:15
I'd be in, but yes, we need extensive lead time :)
Mainly because we have to a) book vacation b) clear it with our sig others (for those that have them) and c) stop buying gear and focus on spending coin on plane tickets accomodation :D

Cheers
Dave

dadsm3
03-03-2006, 20:19
One would assume we're going in the good weather....easy to pick a spot you can drive to dostacos......

ch1
03-03-2006, 20:24
Has to be centrally located.....anyone one have a geographical map of where most members are located? Oh oh, new poll?
Chicago is a GREAT town, I'm in. Kind of unfair for any of our members across the pond....but go ahead and give me an excuse to go to NYC...I'm in for that too. West coast is far for all....except West Coasters and Asian members.
Fantastic idea....
Mike (dadsm3)

With lead time I can go just about anywhere. As to dadsm3 suggestion: NYC works for me as good as Tucson.

Besides, at the right price, I can put up with a couple of you at my place (except for - ahem...guess who would be the "uninvited, unwanted")! :D

FrankS
03-03-2006, 20:27
Lots of lead time. This summer is out. Fall, or better yet, next summer. For me it would have to be central like Chicago, or east coast.

Fedzilla_Bob
03-03-2006, 20:28
Chicago would be perfect- lots of image opportunities

rbiemer
03-03-2006, 20:32
Yes, probably. But as George said, I would need lots of lead time. But it could be a blast!
No particular preferemce about locale as long as the focusing fluid is good and plentiful! :D
Rob

dadsm3
03-03-2006, 20:38
Anywhere but Las Vegas. My wife thinks it's full of beautiful, voluptuous women in black dresses who swoon over chubby middle-aged guys like me. She won't let me go.
Seriously......do they?

sherm
03-03-2006, 20:39
Chicago??? have you EVER been to Chicago? been there too many times. darn near froze my tush off. [went to Northwetern U. in the loop, NOT Evanston campus] then they tried to kill me with tornado warnings, then the humidity....I think there are only three nice days a year in Chicago [between seasons execpt spring summer which just changes the misery index :D ]

California sounds just fine to me


Dos Tacos.... will miss you at the meeting but we'll call you from Chicago :D

Scott

sherm
03-03-2006, 20:41
Anywhere but Las Vegas. My wife thinks it's full of beautiful, voluptuous women in black dresses who swoon over chubby middle-aged guys like me. She won't let me go.
Seriously......do they?

As long as the "chubby" is caused by a big wad of $$$$ ;)

FrankS
03-03-2006, 20:42
July or August only for me. School teachers have lots of it, but no flexability at all in their time off.

dmr
03-03-2006, 20:43
I love Chicago and I do get there occasionally on business. If only it could be synchronized. :)

lmd91343
03-03-2006, 20:45
As a new member of this list from Los Angeles, I think California would be great. Today the temperature was a chilly 61*. So ANY time of year is fine.

ch1
03-03-2006, 20:46
Anywhere but Las Vegas. My wife thinks it's full of beautiful, voluptuous women in black dresses who swoon over chubby middle-aged guys like me. She won't let me go.
Seriously......do they?

Yes!! For the right price, that is! :D

dadsm3
03-03-2006, 20:48
Ok, I'm in for Vegas, but one of you Chicago guys is going to have to back me up.....

dadsm3
03-03-2006, 20:54
Reminds me of a good web joke:
A women comes home at 10:00am and tells her husband she spent the night with a friend the night before. He calls 10 of her best friends and they all deny being with her.
A man comes home at 10:00am and tells his wife he was with a friend the night before. She calls his 10 best friends and 8 out of ten say yes, he spent the night at their place. The other two claim he's still there.....

ywenz
03-03-2006, 21:04
My vote goes for Chicago!

erudolph
03-03-2006, 21:13
I'm willing but depends on where...

FrankS
03-03-2006, 21:15
I can't afford much more than the cost of ground transportation and accommodation for such an event. If the conference itself was going to cost much, I couldn't go.

dadsm3
03-03-2006, 21:32
Frank, Chicago's not that bad a drive, I'll do it. I can take at least 4.
10-12 hours from TO? Easy......we can stop in beautiful Gary IN! Reminds me of Hamilton....
Chicago is a great town....Bears, Sox, Cubs, Blackhawks (what are Bulls?).....best Blues around, and some great jazz too. The restaurants are fantastic...and lots of great shooting.

dadsm3
03-03-2006, 21:35
I have to go to bed now because I have to take my kid to %$#&*$#@ hockey at 6:00am.....g'night.

Stephanie Brim
03-03-2006, 21:36
I would also go if it was somewhere central...Chicago, Minnesota, etc. The drive wouldn't be too bad (I'd most likely take a bus) and I could probably find a place to stay in either of those places fairly easily.

ch1
03-03-2006, 21:43
Frank, Chicago's not that bad a drive, I'll do it. I can take at least 4.
10-12 hours from TO? Easy......we can stop in beautiful Gary IN! Reminds me of Hamilton....
Chicago is a great town....Bears, Sox, Cubs, Blackhawks (what are Bulls?).....best Blues around, and some great jazz too. The restaurants are fantastic...and lots of great shooting.

Aw heck, I could do Chicago too. But the "better half" has relatives there so she'll want to come along. :bang:

So much for the long-legged Vegas babes in "drippy" black dresses! :(

Just kidding, dear. :eek:

cp_ste.croix
03-03-2006, 23:12
Finances, Time and S.O. permitting I'd be in like Flynn

Rodinal Addict
03-03-2006, 23:14
Beautiful, picturesque, and warm sunny Southern California is the perfect place for a gathering of rangefinder fiends. Airfares aren't so bad, accomodations are plentiful most anytime of the year. TONS of interesting things to see and do.Beaches, mountains, big cities, old towns, rural vistas, all within an hour or two. Great photo shops abound. It's without question THE perfect place.

rover
03-04-2006, 02:24
Anywhere but Las Vegas. My wife thinks it's full of beautiful, voluptuous women in black dresses who swoon over chubby middle-aged guys like me. She won't let me go.
Seriously......do they?


I am by no means a gambler, though chubby and middle-aged. Do they?

I actually was going to suggest Las Vegas because the cost to get there for everyone may be pretty cheap. There are special deals to get to Vegas all the time.

dads, you and me, we will watch out for each other. Tell the wife.

RML
03-04-2006, 03:51
Interested, yes. But if it's not on the East Coast I definitely won't be able to pay for it. The flight alone would be prohibitive, not to mention the hotel rates. Everything added up, it will be more than I can spare. Need to save for the new digital Leica too, ya know. :p

kmack
03-05-2006, 19:44
It really does depend on When, Where and How Much.

sbug
03-05-2006, 20:01
I'd be all over it if it happened to be in Chicago or the upper midwest. Otherwise, the travel costs would probably be prohibitive.

ch1
03-05-2006, 20:17
Overall, Chicago is probably the most convenient rather than either coast. Also, O'Hare is surrounded by "conference" hotels so might be the most cost effective - particularly if we do in in February! :eek:

egpj
03-05-2006, 20:18
Where ever man, I am there. Baring something bad happens like not having a job anymore or something along those lines. Also, if I am out of the country working then I am a no go.

akptc
03-05-2006, 20:56
Great idea! Just say when :) Program-wise (it's not too early to suggest a program, is it?) I'd love to see a "kindergarten" session, where newbies could pick the brains of the more advanced photogs, where the rule would be to ask at least 1 dumb question...

I'd even buy desert....

Doug
03-05-2006, 21:21
Andy, I think the really cool thing is that we're all newbies at SOMEthing... not immune from dumb questions, and in position to learn a few things. :)

akptc
03-05-2006, 21:40
Andy, I think the really cool thing is that we're all newbies at SOMEthing... not immune from dumb questions, and in position to learn a few things. :) That's the attitude that keeps me coming back for more. Doug, I propose that you chair the newbie session. No, seriously. I will be in charge of the realy, really "dumb" questions :)

Btw, it occurred to me that (if OR or CA don't work out) Kansas City is smack in the middle of the land... Used to live there for a stint, great place for a conference, I think.

Doug
03-05-2006, 23:41
We have a lot of members in Europe... maybe a get-together in the south of France would be convenient? How about Bermuda or the Azores as somewhere in between? :) RFF also has a number of members in Asia and Australia/NZ... Take a look at the RFF member map at http://pub20.bravenet.com/guestmap/view.php?usernum=1637362376 Let's see, what conference location would be fairer to all... maybe South Africa? Whatever, it just seems that we've been US-centric in considering locations. :)

There really is no one spot convenient for all, so I suppose (if the conference idea flies) it might move annually....

Chaser
03-06-2006, 01:56
I like Oregon....
But i am biased

pvdhaar
03-06-2006, 02:19
We have a lot of members in Europe... maybe a get-together in the south of France would be convenient?
Very considerate of you, Doug :)

There's just this little thingy.. While Europe is made up of small dinky countries, some of which are no more than a couple of miles across, there are so many of them, that when laid out end to end you'd be able to span the globe. :cool: Why anybody would want to do that is beyond me, but it just goes to show that travel expenses may be the limiting factor whereever an RFF conference is held.

MelanieC
03-06-2006, 09:16
Yes, if it's within driving distance.

So, if by "Oregon or California" you mean something like "northern California," that sounds great.

FrankS
03-06-2006, 09:21
Perhaps reginal conferences are called for, though of course if anyone has the means to attend a trans-continental conference, they would be welcomed with open arms.

dcsang
03-06-2006, 09:25
I'm surprised at the fact that there have only been a total of 37 respondents to this poll :)
Perhaps we're all "polled out" ?

This is hardly a good sample size considering the number of members that exist on the forum :)

Let's get some more votes up there :)
Dave

FrankS
03-06-2006, 09:32
I can't vote until I know the location. Depending on where it will be, maybe I can go, maybe I can't.

ch1
03-06-2006, 09:39
I can't vote until I know the location. Depending on where it will be, maybe I can go, maybe I can't.

I understand. Perhaps Jorge could revise the poll to ask for level of interest at several suggested locations (e.g. west or east coast, central US or Canada etc.)?

I can pretty much travel anywhere provided I have sufficient lead time, but many are constrainted by cost or family or other reasons to needing to be relatively close to the location.

FrankS
03-06-2006, 10:24
Cost and time away from my young family are my constraints.

JimG
03-06-2006, 10:31
I'm wondering if Jorge will do this, or not do this based on the response here? If just a few people show any interest will there be a conference? Maybe we should all vote one way or the other to show Jorge if it's worth his effort of planning this?

Pherdinand
03-06-2006, 10:35
isn't "conference" a too big word?
Anyway, yes i would and I still have my US visa, LOL, now if i would be also employed, that would help a great deal, i guess:)

Pherdinand of Transylvania

NoTx
03-06-2006, 18:05
isn't "conference" a too big word?
Anyway, yes i would and I still have my US visa, LOL, now if i would be also employed, that would help a great deal, i guess:)

Pherdinand of Transylvania


Ouch. Just plain ouch.

SolaresLarrave
03-06-2006, 18:34
I support the idea of regional conferences. To me, time and other activities would be key (sometimes in the summer I may teach in Costa Rica or here).

So, like Frank, I won't vote until something develops.

However, my wife would really like to go anywhere. She'd walk the town (Kansas, Chicago, Portland or San Diego) and leave me with you instead.

tedwhite
03-06-2006, 18:44
It seems Copake_Ham, AKPTC and I all live in Arizona. Not a good place for wandering about taking pictures during summer.

Anyway, the place has so much stunning grandeur that it gets boring after awhile. I'm all for having the "conference" somewhere new and different.

I vote for Toronto!

Ted

(Not sleeping well thinking about an M4)

desmo
03-06-2006, 18:45
Yes but as a political protest against the actions of governments in the name of so called democracies, I would not attend anything in the USA or Britain at present.

Hold it down in New Zealand and I'll be the first to sign up.

tedwhite
03-06-2006, 18:53
Well, then, Toronto it is!

desmo
03-06-2006, 19:03
Sure but not in Winter please: I hate the cold

desmo
03-06-2006, 19:05
Sure but not in Winter please: I hate the cold

BTW: Would I have to fly via the USA at all? I only ask because I'm probably on some Yank no fly list as an outspoken socialist and union leader.

I also hate LAX and waiting in 4 hour queues holding my shoes.

desmo
03-06-2006, 19:13
Polite reminder:

The world is a far bigger place than America so a meet in the middle would be more like Turkey, Sri Lanka or Spain etc.
This is an international forum isn't it or have I stumbled onto the xenophobe club?

Given that America has a greater income level than most places, doesn't it make more sense to hold it in a third world nation so us peasants can attend?



Definately!!.... Only question I have is why West Coast? How about a meet in the middle, like Chicago for instance

Just wondering

Thanks,

Scott

FrankS
03-06-2006, 19:22
Reginal conferences it is then! :)

Uncle Bill
03-06-2006, 19:28
After APUG I am going to be conferenced out. I like the idea of it but being in school and working, it would work better in say Chicago than the west coast. I don't know, this will be the classic I will have to think about it.

Bill

ch1
03-06-2006, 19:42
Actually, I divide my time b/w NY and AZ but agree with Ted that AZ only "works" if it's in Feb through April (maybe May).

T.O. is okay with me - but it's already hosting the APUG thing this year so I think the "wealth" should be shared.

Sorry, desmo, I am not willing to take personal responsibility for current politics such that I would "exclude" my country on the basis of the current clown-in-chief. I think you're a bit over the line on that point.

Oh, and BTW, I think most teenage boys (and those of us who remain in that intellectual capacity) would disagree with your current tag line ("A bird in the hand is always better than a hand in the bush!")

In adolesence it took me forever to get the former into the latter! :D

desmo
03-06-2006, 19:44
Thanks Doug

We have a lot of members in Europe... maybe a get-together in the south of France would be convenient? How about Bermuda or the Azores as somewhere in between? :) RFF also has a number of members in Asia and Australia/NZ... Take a look at the RFF member map at http://pub20.bravenet.com/guestmap/view.php?usernum=1637362376 Let's see, what conference location would be fairer to all... maybe South Africa? Whatever, it just seems that we've been US-centric in considering locations. :)

There really is no one spot convenient for all, so I suppose (if the conference idea flies) it might move annually....

ch1
03-06-2006, 19:52
Oh, oh....looks like this one is heading down the slippery slope of politics!

May the whole idea of an in-person RFF conference makes no sense - after all is every day a web-based RFF conference?

BTW: come springtime, anyone up for a NYC get together. Folks from everywhere are always welcome in NYC. Heck, chances are you already have realtives here! :D

desmo
03-06-2006, 19:52
Ditto for me. No point voting if I don't know where it would be.

And yes, the concerns I raised are real not inventions aimed at pissing members off.
I AM an outspoken socialist and AM a Union leader and there really IS a chance I would be red flagged travelling into the USA.
(Not that I really want to anyway, as I've said)

Anyway, if the vote was just a simple "Should we hold a conference or not" without any specific location, I would vote yes. If the location was USA or Britain, I would vote no.

I can't vote until I know the location. Depending on where it will be, maybe I can go, maybe I can't.

ch1
03-06-2006, 19:53
Oh, oh....looks like this one is heading down the slippery slope of politics!

Maybe the whole idea of an in-person RFF conference makes no sense - after all is every day a web-based RFF conference?

BTW: come springtime, anyone up for a NYC get together? [NOT A CONFERENCE!!!]

Folks from everywhere are always welcome in NYC. Heck, chances are you already have realtives here whether you know it or not! :D

desmo
03-06-2006, 19:58
George, everything is political whether we admit it or not.

It's not a question of money for me: I have enough air points for a return ticket to anywhere in the world.
If I were to say yes to the USA but was red flagged at the border, would you reimburse me?

Oh, oh....looks like this one is heading down the slippery slope of politics!

May the whole idea of an in-person RFF conference makes no sense - after all is every day a web-based RFF conference?

BTW: come springtime, anyone up for a NYC get together. Folks from everywhere are always welcome in NYC. Heck, chances are you already have realtives here! :D

tedwhite
03-06-2006, 20:01
George:

I looked at the APUG conference schedule of events and, indeed, it is a conference. Somehow I feel as if we here are perhaps less formal, less organized, looser, perhaps more laissez faire?

I would rather fancy a plain old-fashioned get-together wherein we could meet one another and, basically, shoot the bull, share experiences, tips, look at gear that perhaps we've never seen before, quaff a few brewskies, and maybe wander around and shoot up some film. That sort of thing.

And you're right: spread it around. Toronto's got APUG, and I had forgotten about that. I guess I initially thought of Toronto simply because I've never been there, and it's always exciting to go to someplace you've never been (well, with a few qualifications).

Perhaps regional get-togethers might be more practical and cheaper?

Ted

ch1
03-06-2006, 20:49
Ted,

As has been said here, for some $ or family matters are a constraint. That's why I would vote for Chicago. As I noted, it is central to most of NA (and at least the first of these is likely to be NA-oriented) and because so many conferences are conducted near O'Hare Airport - there is a well-established infrastructure of reasonable priced hotels near to the airport. [Of course this does mean that those wanting to visit the Loop etc. will have to plan separate "extracurricular" activities - but that's easy to arrange given the well developed transportation system in greater Chicago.

desmo,

Cannot handle your concerns. As demonstrated above, already you're attracting the lunatic fringe with your comments. I don't know if your political status is such that you would not be permitted entry. I doubt it would be a problem unless YOU want it to be. And I guess these posts establish that you do want it to be a problem.

Sorry, but much as I'd like to visit NZ, I doubt many RFF'ers could do so given that they don't even seem to want to go to CA or OR.

As I noted earlier, I am able with reasonable notice to go anywhere in the world - but I don't think most here share my flexibility.

Please cease your line of icommentary so the rants don't get worse.

FrankS
03-06-2006, 20:51
Of course it is, but then again, who cares? America is all that matters. We've got all the money, remember. Just keep making those nice sheepskin uggs and there will be no trouble.
I dislike peasants. They stink up the joint. Do you promise to bathe?


You into the sauce again Bill?
If you are serious (doubt it) this is disgusting.
If it's your humour, it's a bit off.

bmattock
03-06-2006, 21:03
Of course it is, but then again, who cares? America is all that matters. We've got all the money, remember. Just keep making those nice sheepskin uggs and there will be no trouble.
I dislike peasants. They stink up the joint. Do you promise to bathe?


You into the sauce again Bill?
If you are serious (doubt it) this is disgusting.
If it's your humour, it's a bit off.

Heaven forfend, I've merely had my customary evening tipple, no drop into the gin gimlets again. I only tend to do that every six months or so. And in any case, it would have been a joke if it actually existed. Which it doesn't seem to. Strange days indeed.

Best Regards,

Bill Mattocks

dadsm3
03-06-2006, 21:12
Why not get together for a couple at the APUG in Toronto May4-7? Maybe the GTA RFF club could host something?
We have as many looney lefties as ridiculous righties, so come election time we usually land somewhere in the middle...isn't that what democracy is all about? But I think tolerance is the keyword here. I'm sure we can accomodate red union leaders as well as guys who think painting a line down the middle of the highway is too much government.....
George, I'm with you, I went with Chicago because of location, it's a good central point. Toronto is also great, and give me an excuse to go to NYC, please!
Bill, I want to think you're kidding......you are, right?

Canada in the winter? Fugeddaboutit.....too damn cold even for the natives.
Mike

ch1
03-06-2006, 21:20
dadsm3 etc.

There are 2 reasons why I would discourage NYC as the venue:

1) We NY'ers are so accused of "chauvanism" that to advance it as a venue would seem to be a sterotype of how non-NY'ers think of us.

2) This is, admittedly, one very expensive city. Unlike Chicago, there is no cluster of inexpensive conference hotels near our airports and Manhattan is prohibitively expensive for folks traveling on their own (as opposed to the boss's) dime.

Don't get me wrong - I'd love to have RFF folks gather here - but I suspect you'd all wind up somewhere in Parsnippany, New Jersey and wonder where "the City" is!

Come to think of it - to make it reasonable - how about a place like Albany, NY or Kingston, ON ?

Do it during the summer and you can probably get reasonable rates at the college dormitories - I know a lot of upstate NY colleges host such affairs during the summer to turn a buck or two that way!

dadsm3
03-06-2006, 21:35
George, agree with most of what you said, NY's pretty pricey, but you get what you pay for. Let's face it, you just can't beat it for RF photography. The other major NA city's are great as well, but come a distant second.
I think Chicago is best for this conference....those of us that want to do the NYC thing can come down for one of your 'Greater NYC Area' RFF meetings, something I haven't seen posted yet......do you have them?

Stephanie Brim
03-06-2006, 21:37
I could seriously hop a bus to about anywhere...where I'd *stay*, though, is another matter. Hotels are expensive. I'm going to be a broke student when this comes about.

ch1
03-06-2006, 22:47
George, agree with most of what you said, NY's pretty pricey, but you get what you pay for. Let's face it, you just can't beat it for RF photography. The other major NA city's are great as well, but come a distant second.
I think Chicago is best for this conference....those of us that want to do the NYC thing can come down for one of your 'Greater NYC Area' RFF meetings, something I haven't seen posted yet......do you have them?

Mike,

Unfortunately for us here in NYC-area we're not as "cohesive" as you guys in T.O. or the SF-area folk.

I know a bunch of guys (sorry, no gals, unfortunately) gathered down here last Summer (before I was a member - I read about it after the fact).

I'd love a NYC get together - but perhaps we're all too shy and reserved?

Or maybe we do need some visitors to get us to put our clean T-shirts on and get out and do some shooting?

You know, as mild as it's been, it's been a long, long winter!

ch1
03-06-2006, 22:57
Whew!.....

vincentbenoit
03-06-2006, 23:31
Would you be willing to pay for attending a rangefinderforum.com conference? The conference would be in Oregon or California.

JTThe dollar is cheap at the moment but not that cheap...

Vincent (England)

Andy K
03-07-2006, 02:15
Yes but as a political protest against the actions of governments in the name of so called democracies, I would not attend anything in the USA or Britain at present.

Hold it down in New Zealand and I'll be the first to sign up.

New Zealand also has a military presence in Afghanistan and Iraq. You best migrate.

franceluxemburg
03-07-2006, 02:25
The dollar is cheap at the moment but not that cheap...

Vincent (England)

THe British pound (GBP) is in better shape than the euro :(, so it will be whithout me, sorry pals.

J.B. from inside the euroland

Socke
03-07-2006, 04:40
Here I can get a flight to NY and back for the price of a user M2, westcoast is closer to an Exc. M6ttl.
And then there is the place I realy want to visit where the cheapest flight is a used M7 and another one to stay three weeks.

And when I'm in Salvador de Bahia for the carnival next year, I'll need loads of film. One pair of jeans, two T-Shirts, a pair of shoes and the rest of the 32Kg luggage is reserved for film and cameras :)

rover
03-07-2006, 05:33
I think it is appropriate to say that unfortunately we cannot have a "World Conference." At least not one that we all truely can attend. It has been fun to read that members have gotten together regionally, and if it is possible for us to get together as a larger group in North America, or anywhere else, I look forward to your sharing your experiences at such an event.

Lets hope too that if a NA event does take place, that it is just the first one. Everyone should feel welcome to attend any "convention," or to stay home. Make your decision for yourself and respect the decisions of other members.

I hope that something does happen and that I will be able to attend and meet more of you.

nwcanonman
03-07-2006, 20:46
As long as it's in the "lower 48", I've got two tickets to use by the end of the year ~ ; - )

amateriat
03-07-2006, 21:00
BTW: come springtime, anyone up for a NYC get together. Folks from everywhere are always welcome in NYC. Heck, chances are you already have realtives here! :D
Well, as a Noo Yawker myself, I'm certainly game. Anyone else?

- Barrett

ch1
03-30-2006, 20:03
Well, as a Noo Yawker myself, I'm certainly game. Anyone else?

- Barrett

Barrett,

I think this would up to you and maybe kbg (Keith) etc. to arrange. I'll try to be there but I suspect my "draw" factor here is pretty low! :D

enochRoot
03-30-2006, 21:32
i've got a buddy in brooklyn i've been meaning to visit for too long now! a spring trip might be nice. but are non-locals welcome in a given regional affair?! i'm originally from jersey if that helps :D

jcline
03-31-2006, 22:28
I'm definitely pro making this a regional affair. Whatever is going to bring the most of us together even if it is into smaller groups. It would certainly be awesome to see everyone in one place, but doesn't seem very practical. Perhaps we could find a way to bring all the regions together in another way if not physically. Maybe there is a theme or purpose to each one locally that we bring together globally on the web? Anyone else smell patchouli and tiedye? I think I smell patchouli and tiedye... *sniff* is that me?

ch1
03-31-2006, 22:34
i've got a buddy in brooklyn i've been meaning to visit for too long now! a spring trip might be nice. but are non-locals welcome in a given regional affair?! i'm originally from jersey if that helps :D

New York is the immigrant capital of America. Everyone is welcome here. :D

Then again, you're originally from Noo Joisey.....I dunno 'bout dat! :confused:

:D :D

jan normandale
03-31-2006, 22:40
how about Key West in the shoulder season. Flites into Miami are easy from Europe. Good food , good times? Just make it a Fri evening to Sun am thing. Arrange for guides to take groups of 4-5 for a historic walk or boat thing.

Also I have heard that Americans leaving the US now must have a US passport to re-enter the US. This could be a problem for the Americans going to Canada or Mexico etc.

jan normandale
03-31-2006, 22:45
37 sounds like a perfect number to me .. humour!

I'm surprised at the fact that there have only been a total of 37 respondents to this poll :)
Perhaps we're all "polled out" ?

This is hardly a good sample size considering the number of members that exist on the forum :)

Let's get some more votes up there :)
Dave

ch1
03-31-2006, 22:50
.....Also I have heard that Americans leaving the US now must have a US passport to re-enter the US. This could be a problem for the Americans going to Canada or Mexico etc.

Yes, otherwise we cannot re-enter America and are left stateless, destined to wander as if we are on the "Flying Dutchman" with no port e'er to find!

Alas, and woe unto us!

Perhaps, Jan, you will take us in - should we err by wandering to foreign lands like Ontario without our passports?

canonetc
04-01-2006, 01:35
Brilliant idea. For those of us with money shortages and need hotel rooms, we could buddy-up by region and have three or four members to a room. That would save some cash for all.

I also like the regional conference idea. Either way, RF manufacturers might swoop depending on the projected turnout.

Chris
canonetc

Marc-A.
04-01-2006, 02:16
between "Yes I will" and "no, not interested", there's another answer:[I] "sorry I can't". [/B]Then I have a suggestion: why not planning an American session and a European one, in a European capital city like Paris, London, Amsterdam or Madrid (ah Madrid...'sigh')? One yea, it would be in the US and the next year in Europe ...

Otherwise I support the suggestion of NYC which is in the middle of everywhere .. the center, yes ...
Bests,
Marc

Russ
04-16-2006, 18:25
we have lovely conference facilities in edmonton...or in the canadian rockies...even the west coast of canada in vancouver.

sounds like a great idea but budget would be a great concern for me.
joe


Given enough lead time-advance warning. Yes, Vancouver, BC, is nice. I'm overdue for a road trip up there....

Russ

RicardoD
04-16-2006, 18:37
I'm in for Chicago. Why? Look at what's listed under my Avatar.

bsdunek
06-15-2006, 05:26
If we could combine it with a vacation, I think both my wife and I would attend.
I'd like to see some seminars on photography, presence of manufacturers of photographic materials, etc. Also, a gallery for member photos would be great. Timw allowed for socilizing and maybe some photo trips. Ending with a banquet. Sounds like fun to me! :cool:

KoNickon
06-15-2006, 05:54
It all depends where it is, and how long the duration. If it's somewhere where my wife can visit friends or relatives there's a much higher likelihood of my attendance.

rover
06-15-2006, 06:44
Hey, there is the convention center in Hartford, brand new. We should book it before mismanagement forces it to close.

I am glad to see this still being discussed. If/when it happens it will be after some big planning and lets look at this thread as part of the planning stage.

ray_g
06-15-2006, 06:49
This will be worth the trip, if only to see if some people are as opinionated and argumentative in person. ;)

KoNickon
06-15-2006, 06:52
Agreed. While I imagine the plurality, if not outright majority, of the RFF membership is located in the USA, it would be good to find a location that's convenient for people flying in from far away.

Rayt
06-15-2006, 07:33
New York is the immigrant capital of America. Everyone is welcome here. :D

Then again, you're originally from Noo Joisey.....I dunno 'bout dat! :confused:

:D :D

Fahgettaboutit!

Rayt
06-15-2006, 07:35
Agreed. While I imagine the plurality, if not outright majority, of the RFF membership is located in the USA, it would be good to find a location that's convenient for people flying in from far away.

Hang with a bunch of fat old guys around a table in some cheap hotel lounge talking about bokeh and going strapless? How about going somewhere with photo ops like Cambodia?

back alley
06-15-2006, 08:35
This will be worth the trip, if only to see if some people are as opinionated and argumentative in person. ;)


I AM NOT!!

;)

marcust101
06-16-2006, 06:34
Yes but only in Europe unfortunately

boarini2003
06-16-2006, 06:39
I would love to attend, however I won't count on any conferences being held here in guatemala!

visiondr
07-14-2006, 12:11
Count me in. Oregon would be great! How about somewhere along the coast? Or else, Portland (our fair city) would be a good choice full of great photo-opps.

Ron

ampguy
07-14-2006, 12:15
lets have a "movie nite" and all watch Canadian Bacon !!


This will be worth the trip, if only to see if some people are as opinionated and argumentative in person. ;)

visiondr
07-14-2006, 13:25
Vancouver would be great! BTW, I grew up in Canadia (as I've heard some more ignorant "Americans" call their northern neighbor). My best friend lives in Vancouver. A visit is in order.

Ron

JeffGreene
07-16-2006, 18:29
I would be interested. Sign me up for NY or somewhere on the east coast, easy for everyone to get to!

JimG
07-16-2006, 18:38
Lisbon! I've never been there and I hear grub is good. JimG

whitecat
07-16-2006, 18:58
How about San Antonio, and I'll help with the arrangements.
gg

BillBingham2
07-16-2006, 19:30
If it were here in Chicago, yes. Other than that, not at this point in my life. B2 (;->

Wayne R. Scott
07-16-2006, 21:31
How about Martinsburg, Iowa? It is near the middle of the USA and both of the residents would be greatly suprised if a couple hundred photographers showed up.

Wayne

jlw
07-16-2006, 21:51
Content is king. What would HAPPEN at such a conference? As someone else said, would it just be a bunch of guys sitting around arguing about bokeh? Or an exhibit of weird paint jobs for Feds and Zorkis? (That would be very cool to see, but I wouldn't attend a conference just for that.)

Or would it be more a presentations/seminars/workshops type of conference? ("8:00 am -- Elliott Erwitt on 'the rangefinder aesthetic'; 9:30 am -- Leica factory pass-around demo of M8 prototypes; 11:00 am -- William Ewing lecture: 'Cartier-Bresson or Capa -- Which One Was the Poncing Poseur?'; 12:30 pm -- lunch with Nikon engineers and preview of SPX-d; 2 pm -- How-to with Oleg on replacing Zorki shutter curtains"... that kind of thing.)

Or would it be mostly social, shooting trips, drinking, lying, etc?

I'm not expressing a preference, just want to know what the thought is here.

JimG
07-16-2006, 22:21
How about Martinsburg, Iowa? It is near the middle of the USA and both of the residents would be greatly suprised if a couple hundred photographers showed up.

Wayne

Wayne, that's the best suggestion yet. Hell I'd go. JimG

BJ Bignell
07-21-2006, 05:46
I'm interested, but like everyone else has said, lead time would be an important factor. Location isn't a big deal for me; as long as it's in North America, it's easy enough to get to.

Any ideas what kind of schedule there would be? Guest speakers, workshops, parties?

ampguy
07-21-2006, 09:54
I will volunteer to teach a master class on photographing fire hydrants.

kunger
08-30-2006, 07:12
Okay, just my two cents worth, but it seems that a lot of people are concerned with lead time and location.

There are a lot of members located outside North America and maybe if we were to choose a location outside of N.A. with enough lead time, a good portion of those who are located in N.A. could make it.

Just a thought.... What if this conference were to be tied in with the Visa Pour L'image conference in Perpignan, France for, let's say Sept. 07? Thus not only will we be able to have a good conference of our own, but also enjoy the Visa conference and exhibits as well.

Just my two cents worth,

Kevin Unger
Jerusalem

Marc-A.
08-30-2006, 07:40
Okay, just my two cents worth, but it seems that a lot of people are concerned with lead time and location.

There are a lot of members located outside North America and maybe if we were to choose a location outside of N.A. with enough lead time, a good portion of those who are located in N.A. could make it.

From my point of view, this is the key problem; I cannot say "I'm interested" or "I'm not" without the information about date & location. Otherwise my answer would be completely void: I'm interested, but if you choose Pyongyang on March, maybe not :rolleyes:
That means if you precise your conference suggestion, taking in account the different interest of the members, then you'll have a precise and reliable answer.

Just a thought.... What if this conference were to be tied in with the Visa Pour L'image conference in Perpignan, France for, let's say Sept. 07? Thus not only will we be able to have a good conference of our own, but also enjoy the Visa conference and exhibits as well.
Just my two cents worth,
Kevin Unger
Jerusalem
Of course I support your suggestion Kevin, but I'm not convinced everybody will agree, even if the train station of Perpignan is the centre of the world, as Salvador Dali said! ;)
Marc

adep
11-02-2006, 12:24
Or would it be more a presentations/seminars/workshops type of conference? ("8:00 am -- Elliott Erwitt on 'the rangefinder aesthetic'; 9:30 am -- Leica factory pass-around demo of M8 prototypes; 11:00 am -- William Ewing lecture: 'Cartier-Bresson or Capa -- Which One Was the Poncing Poseur?'; 12:30 pm -- lunch with Nikon engineers and preview of SPX-d; 2 pm -- How-to with Oleg on replacing Zorki shutter curtains"... that kind of thing.)



I like this idea. There is an annual one-day conference that press photographers have called the "Flying Short Course" that includes a range of speakers with slide shows, and a room full of vendors to show off their latest and greatest (in the old days Kodak and Fuji used to hand out free film). Canon and Nikon are there to show off their latest and give free camera cleanings (drop off in the morning, get it back at the end of the day - worth the price of admission all by itself).

Oh, it's called the "Flying" short course because they go to about 5 different cities (in the U.S.) over the course of a week.

woodphoto
11-02-2006, 13:13
Okay, just my two cents worth, but it seems that a lot of people are concerned with lead time and location.

There are a lot of members located outside North America and maybe if we were to choose a location outside of N.A. with enough lead time, a good portion of those who are located in N.A. could make it.

Just a thought.... What if this conference were to be tied in with the Visa Pour L'image conference in Perpignan, France for, let's say Sept. 07? Thus not only will we be able to have a good conference of our own, but also enjoy the Visa conference and exhibits as well.

Just my two cents worth,

Kevin Unger
Jerusalem


I like the france idea, I will be there in sept 07. I also like the multiple conferance, it might be easier for more people in the long run to attend....
Otherwise the west coast is cool too, LA, SF, SanD are my limits of affordability.

Simon Larbalestier
11-07-2006, 20:23
Just a thought.... What if this conference were to be tied in with the Visa Pour L'image conference in Perpignan, France for, let's say Sept. 07? Thus not only will we be able to have a good conference of our own, but also enjoy the Visa conference and exhibits as well.

Just my two cents worth,

Kevin Unger
Jerusalem


I'd be up for this as it would link in with several other things at Perpignan
Lightstalkers do a good get together there.

raid
11-16-2006, 18:33
Let's hold the RFF Conference in Pensacola, Florida. The weather is great, and Ithe white sands beaches really cool.

Raid

back alley
11-16-2006, 18:43
all you guys should meet up with the crazy canuks in montreal in may!!

i predict great food and great shooting also.

joe

David Murphy
11-16-2006, 18:57
Would you be willing to pay for attending a rangefinderforum.com conference? The conference would be in Oregon or California. More information to come as the concept develops.

JT

I would pay, but not too much. It might be useful to have one day and multiple day tickets, etc. to make it more affordable to casual attendees. I am in L.A., so naturally I'd prefer it here.

David Murphy
11-16-2006, 18:58
P.S.: It's an exciting idea too -- I love it

raid
11-17-2006, 15:43
If it can be arranged to have about four-six regional get-togethers "conferences" in the USA plus one in Canada and other places, depending on presence of RFF members. Then, we need to make sure that everyone present at any of these regional meetings can also participate in a satellite conference. People mingle regionally and people talk to each other via voice and photo from everywhere. Can this be arranged? We have such satellite conferences at universities.

The regional meetings are face to face and the satellite connections are there to be more inclusive and allow people from many places to "participate" too.

What do you think about this possibility?

Raid

Richard Black
11-17-2006, 16:01
I am interested but the west coast would be a challenge for me. One group, Exakta collectors, met in K.C. Mo. They have the conference facilities and is centrally located. Other options would be considered by me.:p

popstar
11-18-2006, 20:20
Hey, I like the Kansas City, MO idea. I think it's pretty centrally located... Good suggestion!! :D

mikeb380
01-05-2007, 07:00
Would you be willing to pay for attending a rangefinderforum.com conference? The conference would be in Oregon or California. More information to come as the concept develops.

JT

Jose, you need another category. I am interested but am not able to attend due to finances. Also I am having to carry an oxygen tank with me for now. I hope I get rid of it soon. Any way, I couldn't fly with the tank and would need a considerable number of them for just 2 days. If I had the money, I'd get a Bessa L. Steve raises the prices as soon as I get the money for one. Steve, put a cap on it!!! Video tape it and send me one. :)

Athena
01-06-2007, 19:01
There was a time when I would have thought this would be a fun thing to do.

But now I don't think so since I use film RF's. Somehow, I just wouldn't feel welcome. :(

mikeb380
01-07-2007, 08:27
There was a time when I would have thought this would be a fun thing to do.

But now I don't think so since I use film RF's. Somehow, I just wouldn't feel welcome. :(

Athena, I thought the majority on here use film RFs. I know I do and I'm about ready to get rid of my DSLR and just do film. I just need to finish the darkroom, ie, make it dark. LOL :angel:

bobkonos
01-07-2007, 17:43
Yikes, I was just thinking about this the other day. Yes! I attend Nikon and Leica Historical Society conferences and they are terrific because nothing beats meeting someone in person. And do not forget to have a swap meet-that is always a fun way to meet folks. Jorge-I can offer suggestions on format and agenda and such, if you like. Location? Yes, Chicago makes sense because it is central to most in North America and a fantastic city for pohotography, as well as restaurants and museums.

mikeb380
01-08-2007, 00:34
Jorge, why not have it at the "Big Easy"? I could drive there and stay with my cousin. ( See? Ulterior motive) Air travel is good and lots of greatphotos.My sister was there about 5 months ago and said it is nuch better than beginning of year. I think you can get special rates for a group and also out of season.

Michael
PS: Big Easy = New Orleans

kunger
06-28-2007, 00:18
Okay, I still see a couple of things standing in the way.

1. Lead time. - A good amount of lead time is necessary so that most of us can stash some money aside for it. Unfortunately (or fortunately), a lot of us have GAS and funnel our funds that way. With the correct amount of lead time we could have a wonderful and meaningful conference. Now, that being said it leads us to the next problem...

2. Location. - The way I see it, if the venue for this were to be held in the US, a great number of members would not be able to attend. There are a lot of members who are not in North America, and cannot afford the fares and costs to the US. A central location needs to be thought of. I still believe that combining this conference with Visa Pour L'Image in Perpignan, France, let's say for next year (2008), will give members ample time to get funds together, allow for those who live in Europe, Aisia and the Middle East to attend. Further, with the combination of the Visa conference and the RFF conference, there will be a great deal to see, learn and participate in. If we wish to also combine this with a day out for shooting, then, if I remember correctly, Barcelona is only about a 1.5hr. train ride away. There's lots of good street shooting to be done in Barcelona.

I don't want to come accross as being bent on Perpignan & Visa. I'm just trying to look at this in a practical manner.

Once again, just my two cents worth.

tbarker13
09-05-2007, 13:13
Count another vote here for somewhere in the Midwest. Needs to be central located and/or a city with a major airport with tons of air connections.
Places like Chicago, Atlanta, Orlando, Las Vegas, etc.

Maybe there should be two conferences -- one on each side of the pond.

pachuco
09-05-2007, 13:18
Oregon would be great!

mfunnell
09-05-2007, 13:51
Maybe there should be two conferences -- one on each side of the pond.Which pond? :D

...Mike

ernstk
09-05-2007, 14:56
If it's going to be in the US, shouldn't it be on the east coast so that it's more accessible to the Europeans and Middle East members?

Regards
Ernst

MartinP
09-05-2007, 16:05
It seems that most members are not in the Americas (according to the "where are you" poll) so I'd suggest somewhere cheap and fascinating, as well as photogenic.

Probably Africa will be most central, speaking at the continental level, so how about Egypt, on the Red Sea coast maybe ? Ridiculously cheap off-season and lots of options for the entire family.

I would have also supported Perpignan, but I suspect it's too political for many people.
:(

etrigan63
09-05-2007, 16:39
Jorge, if you need help making arrangements, I have an online travel agency: http://travel.planetamd64.com and we can get some group arrangements made. Just let me know.

Here's another idea: a photo safari/excursion. Not to jungles of Africa per se, but say to some scenic locale is a civilized part of the world.

dmr
09-05-2007, 17:30
Count another vote here for somewhere in the Midwest. Needs to be central located and/or a city with a major airport with tons of air connections. Places like Chicago, Atlanta, Orlando, Las Vegas, etc.

One thing I might throw out for consideration is that APUG is joining some other firms in what they are now calling the Photo 3 Conference next June, and it might be practical to piggyback a RFF get-together off of that.

I know that RFF and APUG have a considerable number of cross-over members.

This already has quite a bit of momentum, and I've already blocked off the days on the vacation calendar at work.

The RFF gang could either get involved officially, or just unofficially and all agree to meet there.

It's in Fort Collins, Colorado, about 50 miles north of Denver, which does have good air connections.

Needless to say, the area is quite scenic, and there are some photo trips planned already.

Just a suggestion here ...

Comments?

gb hill
09-05-2007, 17:38
I'm not going to vote because I would be interested but can't afford airfare and other expenses to west coast. Besides you realize the gear I could buy with that amount of money!;)

etrigan63
09-05-2007, 19:33
Or a cruise! We could take a cruise together!

akptc
09-05-2007, 19:56
Or a cruise! We could take a cruise together! .. and be stuck for days with a bunch of RF gearheads with little chance of escape... hmm.. :eek::D:D

- I second the vote for a Midwest location, e.g. Kansas City - great food, nice people, and gorgeous women (photographically speaking) - what else could one ask for?

BillBingham2
09-05-2007, 20:01
What about a virtual conference for the folks who can not attend. Record (video, audio and power point if any) and publish all the talks/presentations on a DVD and PodCast. In a perfect world it could be live so you could watch from the Web.

B2

Al Patterson
09-05-2007, 21:48
How about Antarctica? It should be inconvenient for all of us in the Northern Hemisphere...

Seriously, I doubt we could ever manage to have one conference for all users of the forum. Maybe we could all buy webcams or something...

reagan
09-05-2007, 22:49
Maybe we could all buy webcams or something...So I take it you haven't heard of back alley's web-surfing attire? :eek:

mike goldberg
09-09-2007, 03:52
NOTE: I did NOT vote, because the Poll is set up as an either - or... With the Israel Shekel at 4.15 shekels to one dollar, the cost of getting there is a key factor! Thus, if a Conference was held in Greece or Europe... maybe.

Another factor is the possibility of RFF members arranging for low-cost housing for their buddies. For example, several members live in the Toronto area [brr!], and this could be a good venue for a Conference.

Let me say at the outset, I'm aware of some of the logistics of Conference Organizing, and you cannot please everyone. I would suggest having an open Post here, with a few of the guys who are centrally located... fielding Replies.

Then the idea can Gel and Evolve, then move into Grounding and Reality.

Ciao...

darkkavenger
09-09-2007, 04:00
please guys, think of the poor youngsters ;)

Chris101
03-19-2008, 00:10
There are more photographers in LA than anywhere else, so I'd go there (plus it's only a few hours drive for me!)

mikeb380
03-20-2008, 21:39
please guys, think of the poor youngsters ;)

Poor youngsters? I'll trade with the poor benighted ones! How about the poor oldsters? They can walk, I can't and my walker has square wheels! How about the East Coast? Maybe Richmond, Charlotte? Charlotte would be cool. Then I could drive it and there are lots of photogs around the area. :bang: And Charlotte is about half way between Miami and NYC. But, hey, let's not forget the Florida Keys; Key West would be good, everyone bring your scuba, underwater housing and shark repellent.

David Murphy
08-25-2008, 01:43
I've never been to a free conference yet on anything. I'd hope the price would be reasonable however.

dadsm3
10-31-2008, 17:47
If in North America, New York is best, but it has to be Chicago for max attendance.

Larsgh
01-04-2010, 02:24
As a newbie just "wanna" point to the fact that we live in the web 2.0 era. Why not make the conference also available on the web? Using for instance Adobe Connect Pro?
Regards from West Coast of Sweden