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raid
04-23-2016, 06:51
Hi,
The Global Outreach person at Leica who is coordinating our brief visit with Leica in Wetzlar asked me once to send her in May a list with information on each visitor from our RFF group. I suggest that if you think that there is a good chance that you will join us in Wetzlar on May 31/June 1 to send me a message at RFF with this information:
* Full Name
* From where you will be arriving or some information that can be shared with Leica
* Number of people in your group.

This information will be used to make the appropriate arrangements for our welcome in Wetzlar.

It is April 23 today ......



Raid

analoged
04-23-2016, 11:47
Sounds exciting! Cheers Raid for giving this opportunity to RFF members!!!

robert blu
04-23-2016, 13:25
PM sent!

robert

raid
04-23-2016, 19:10
Sounds exciting! Cheers Raid for giving this opportunity to RFF members!!!

Thanks. I was a crazy idea out of the blue, but it made it to a solid plan in the end.

raid
04-23-2016, 19:11
PM sent!

robert

I have read your PM, Robert. See you in Wetzlar.

raid
04-26-2016, 11:03
So far, only Robert and his wife are definitely visiting Leica AG in Wetzlar on May 31-June 1, in addition to me and my family.

I will email Leica in one week the list of attendees.

LeicaFoReVer
04-26-2016, 12:22
Pm sent!!! I didnt know family could come so number of people would be 3 in that case. Am I coming??????

raid
04-26-2016, 12:24
Thank you. I understand your situation.

dave lackey
04-26-2016, 12:49
Obviously I cannot go... But what is the purpose of this trip?:angel:

raid
04-26-2016, 13:33
I am sorry for your health situation, Johan. I hope that you get well soon.

robert blu
04-27-2016, 06:00
Obviously I cannot go... But what is the purpose of this trip?:angel:

Buying "toys" at a special price for RFF members :D

Not sure Dave but from my side is simply an opportunity to visit the factory and to have some speak with Leica People...not planning to buy anything...

robert

raid
04-27-2016, 06:19
Obviously I cannot go... But what is the purpose of this trip?:angel:

Hi Dave,

For me, it is about a chance for a meeting with the Leica CEO to better understand where Leica is going with it all. Wetzlar happens to be on the way between Nuremberg and Bonn which is my set driving route, so stopping there is no extra effort or cost. Oliver Kaltner is now my Linkedin connection, and so is the past Leica CEO. This may help one day and maybe it will not help. Again, there was no cost associated with it. Life is short, and I want to explore life as much as I can.

raid
04-27-2016, 06:20
Earlier on I was considering to join but I had a strange episode which vaguely resembled a migraine attack four weeks ago and I haven't been able to work since. Terrible fatigue and lack of concentration. Won't get better anytime soon either AFAICT.

I won't join. Have fun guys.

Take care of yourself, Johan. This is most important. I am sure that we will have some thread about the visit to Wetzlar in the end. Thanks.

f16sunshine
04-27-2016, 06:21
I just arrived in Switzerland yesterday.
Looks like Germany is not on the docket for this year.
Will be back home on May 15th

Sorry to miss meeting you all there. Say hi to Wetlar for me. :)

raid
04-27-2016, 06:21
So we have two families going to Wetzlar so far.I recall "Kent" lives close by in Marburg, and he wanted to join us there.

Kent ... can you see this thread?

raid
04-27-2016, 06:22
I just arrived in Switzerland yesterday.
Looks like Germany is not on the docket for this year.
Will be back home on May 15th

Sorry to miss meeting you all there. Say hi to Wetlar for me. :)

No problem, Andy. I would not make a special trip just to visit Wetzlar. There are more important things to do in life. Enjoy Switzeeland.

raid
04-27-2016, 06:29
Buying "toys" at a special price for RFF members :D

Not sure Dave but from my side is simply an opportunity to visit the factory and to have some speak with Leica People...not planning to buy anything...

robert

Same as you, Robert. No money or plan for buying yet another Leica "toy". I hope that we can see/hold/use a new Leica product a little while we are there. Who knows ...

Vincent.G
04-27-2016, 06:51
I am so envious of you guys. I last set foot on Europe 10 years ago.

mcfingon
04-27-2016, 07:16
You may glimpse the new M-D 262 Leica, Raid. If so, we all want to know about it...

raid
04-27-2016, 09:13
I'd love to have a tour, but that's about it. I bought my share of new Leica gear in the past, but will only buy used from now on. So I'm not a real customer. But I'm looking forward to a report on the visit.

John

Thank you for your support, John. I am sure that Robert and I will have something to report about.

raid
04-27-2016, 09:13
I am so envious of you guys. I last set foot on Europe 10 years ago.

It is costly, Vincent, and it is time consuming.

raid
04-27-2016, 09:14
You may glimpse the new M-D 262 Leica, Raid. If so, we all want to know about it...

Thanks for the thought! I would love to try out a new Leica for a few hours.

robert blu
04-27-2016, 09:57
Try out a couple of "toys" would be very interesting...
robert

raid
04-27-2016, 10:16
I am also considering taking with me only Leica products, in case they offer us to check/clean/adjust the equipment there.

robert blu
04-27-2016, 10:35
I'll bring for this journey the M7 + x1 and the Polaroid Land Camera...
robert

raid
04-27-2016, 12:17
Kent is also onboard! Confirmed via pm at RFF.

I will bring along M9 and the Summilux as my main set. I will also bring with me the Rigid Summicron. I am torn between bringing also the M8 and/or the SWC. The Land 250 has to stay here in Florida for now.

raid
04-27-2016, 12:27
tom.w.bn also is joining us in Wetzlar.


1. Robert and spouse
2. Kent
3. Tom
4. Raid and spouse

raid
04-27-2016, 14:32
The most fun for me is to meet people. I am looking forward to the Wetzlar meeting.

robert blu
04-27-2016, 14:36
So now we have a transcontinental RFF meeting :)
robert

David Hughes
04-28-2016, 03:03
It is costly, Vincent, and it is time consuming.

Hi,

I often read comments like this and wonder why. Living in England on a pension I see mainland Europe as a place for cheap holidays with opportunities to get some of my money back by bringing supplies home...

Regards, David

Vincent.G
04-28-2016, 05:17
Hi David, you are fortunate. For me, a trip to Europe is costly too. One Singapore dollar exchanges for €0.65 only. I remember the last time I went for a round Europe trip, most things cost almost numerically similar to what it cost at home but in Euro.

raid
04-28-2016, 06:17
Hi,

I often read comments like this and wonder why. Living in England on a pension I see mainland Europe as a place for cheap holidays with opportunities to get some of my money back by brining supplies home...

Regards, David

I live far away from Germany, as you know, David. I view travel to Europe and to Asia (when I can afford it) as a very important way for showing to my daughters that the world is big and that people while they appear to be very different, they in fact are very similar. We have the good, the bad, the ugly, and the beautiful (inside) all over the globe.

raid
04-28-2016, 07:00
I have emailed Silke Bernhardt (at Leica) our short list for May 31.

raid
04-28-2016, 08:19
I have just received an email from the Leica Global Outreach Director, followed by an email from the CEO (Oliver Kaltner). Mr. Kaltner has confirmed a meeting with him on May 31 from 2-3pm in Wetzlar. He will meet with the entire group.

user237428934
04-28-2016, 09:36
That's a bit earlier than I expected but I have some overtime hours to spend and no business meeting that day in my schedule :) Blocked the day already.


I have just received an email from the Leica Global Outreach Director, followed by an email from the CEO (Oliver Kaltner). Mr. Kaltner has confirmed a meeting with him on May 31 from 2-3pm in Wetzlar. He will meet with the entire group.

user237428934
04-28-2016, 10:00
My son and me met Thomas in Bonn a few years back, he is great company to have along. Enjoy the visit, people.

:) Thanks for your kind words.

DanskDynamit
04-28-2016, 10:06
I wish I could join you!
are you *only* going to meet with the CEO or also visit the production line etc?

David Hughes
04-28-2016, 10:11
Hi David, you are fortunate. For me, a trip to Europe is costly too. One Singapore dollar exchanges for €0.65 only. I remember the last time I went for a round Europe trip, most things cost almost numerically similar to what it cost at home but in Euro.

Hi,

Interesting answer and it set me thinking. I have almost always worked in The City (of London for our friends across the pond) and always felt sorry for tourists being fleeced, imo. So I ate a normal office worker lunch and they paid through the nose for it.

Now, taking RFF as the model, it seems to me that we are all willing to help each other out and so I wonder if there's a forum somewhere that swaps ideas and facts for overseas visitors to avoid the tourist traps but still see the sights.

Regards, David

David Hughes
04-28-2016, 10:13
I live far away from Germany, as you know, David. I view travel to Europe and to Asia (when I can afford it) as a very important way for showing to my daughters that the world is big and that people while they appear to be very different, they in fact are very similar. We have the good, the bad, the ugly, and the beautiful (inside) all over the globe.

Thanks, I guess the travel costs for several of you eats into the budget. And, of course, youngsters can empty a 'fridge of food in seconds and refilling it costs a fortune...

Anyway, I'll wish you all 'bon voyage'.

Regards, David

raid
04-28-2016, 11:18
I wish I could join you!
are you *only* going to meet with the CEO or also visit the production line etc?

We get VIP tours at Leica too.

raid
04-28-2016, 11:19
Modified to meet our needs:

May 31st:

1:00-2:00 Private tour through Leica building, museum, gallery, manufactory / production (approx. 60 min)

02:00 – 02.30 pm: Meet with Oliver Kaltner (CEO Leica Camera) or if not available at that day with another Board Member (Markus Limberger, COO or Ruud Peters, CFO)

02.30 – 03.00 pm: Meet with Mr. Stefan Daniel (Global Director Product Management): Discussion about Leica M

03:00 – open end: Coffee & cake in our wonderful “Café Leitz”

raid
04-28-2016, 11:46
As I have stated before in another thread, please do not make your travel plans based on the one day (May 31). I wish that I could stay for more days than just for May 31, but I have many other obigations and I need to move on. I am sure that the (few) people making the visit can/want to stay longer in Wetzlar. It looks like a beautiful town, and then you have Leica there too, of course.

raid
04-28-2016, 11:50
Hi Raid,

I saw the dates: 31 May/1st June. Unfortunatly I cannot join because I will be included in one important meeting at work...
I much regret it since I would love to go and meet with you guys.

I any case, I'm not far from Wetzlar. If you ever wanted to meet for example in Luxembourg over the previous or following week ends just let me know.

Cheers

I am sorry to miss you then. Thank you very much for your offer.

raid
04-28-2016, 12:05
We now have another participant.
Ernst K.

ernstk
04-28-2016, 13:09
We now have another participant.
Ernst K.

Looking forward to meeting you all in Wetzlar.

Ernst

raid
04-28-2016, 16:17
Rasha and the two girls want to tour Leica too. Our group is growing in numbers.

Kent
05-05-2016, 08:33
Modified to meet our needs:

May 31st:

1:00-2:00 Private tour through Leica building, museum, gallery, manufactory / production (approx. 60 min)

02:00 – 02.30 pm: Meet with Oliver Kaltner (CEO Leica Camera) or if not available at that day with another Board Member (Markus Limberger, COO or Ruud Peters, CFO)

02.30 – 03.00 pm: Meet with Mr. Stefan Daniel (Global Director Product Management): Discussion about Leica M

03:00 – open end: Coffee & cake in our wonderful “Café Leitz”

That sounds great, Raid!

I have just asked to get the afternoon off on that Tuesday and hope I will be there at about 12:30h.

raid
05-05-2016, 10:00
I wish if I could spend a week there! However, life is different from what we sometimes want ....

See you soon, Kent.

raid
05-17-2016, 13:42
We have been invited for lunch! All of us, of course.

Guests: International members of “Rangefinder Forum”
Date: May 31st


Attendees:

Raid
Rasha
Lina
Dana
Robert
Ernst
Maria
Carsten
Thomas


Schedule:
May 31st:
12:15 am: Meet at Leica reception
12:20 – 01:00 pm: Group lunch in “Leica Casino” (table for group is reserved)
01:00 - 02:00 pm: Private tour (english) through Leica building (approx. 60 min) by Stefan Daniel (Global Director Product Management)
02:00 – 02.30 pm: Meet with Mr. Oliver Kaltner (CEO Leica Camera)
02:30 – 03:00 pm: Visit Leica Store, gallery etc (no guidance required)
03:00 – open end: Coffee & cake at “Café Leitz” (no guidance required, the Café is open until 06:00 pm)

Mackinaw
05-17-2016, 14:17
Nice job Raid. Wish I could go. Take good notes and a lot of pics.

Jim B.

raid
05-17-2016, 14:20
Thank you Jim. I am surprised that Rasha and the girls want to attend the tour and the meeting with the CEO.
Too bad that not more RFF members can make it. The trip is long, and it is works out best if you already are there anyways, and Wetzlar happens to be "around the corner". I will use my iPhone to document the visit.

robert blu
05-17-2016, 23:41
great ! thanks you Raid for organizing this event!
robert

raid
05-18-2016, 06:03
No problem, Robert. I am looking forward to a day filled with good events for us there.

streetleitz
05-18-2016, 07:08
Wow this is an amazing thing that you're doing Raid. Thank you for sharing this experience with the RFF community. I won't be able to join you guys unfortunately due to my work schedule but I'm sure that you'll all have a great time there! Enjoy the trip and do let us know how it goes when you get back.

Cheers!
- Ian

raid
05-19-2016, 07:40
Thank you Ian. There will be several photographers in our group, so we should get a good feedback thread eventually here.

BillBingham2
05-19-2016, 08:46
Safe travels all.

Please bring back some memories and some pictures!

B2 (;->

raid
05-19-2016, 16:38
Safe travels all.

Please bring back some memories and some pictures!

B2 (;->

Thank you, Bill.

mnutzer
05-29-2016, 11:46
...

Guests: International members of “Rangefinder Forum”
Date: May 31st


Attendees:

Raid
Rasha
Lina
Dana
Robert
Ernst
Maria
Carsten
Thomas



Schedule:
May 31st:
12:15 am: Meet at Leica reception
12:20 – 01:00 pm: Group lunch in “Leica Casino” (table for group is reserved)
01:00 - 02:00 pm: Private tour (english) through Leica building (approx. 60 min) by Stefan Daniel (Global Director Product Management)
02:00 – 02.30 pm: Meet with Mr. Oliver Kaltner (CEO Leica Camera)
02:30 – 03:00 pm: Visit Leica Store, gallery etc (no guidance required)
03:00 – open end: Coffee & cake at “Café Leitz” (no guidance required, the Café is open until 06:00 pm)


May I join your group of visitors yet?

Although living along only a few hundred miles away from Wetzlar, I never found an opportunity for the most interesting factory visit.
And of course I'd like to meet some international friends of Leica.

Greetings mnutzer = Bernd

johannielscom
05-29-2016, 12:53
Enjoy the visit, folks. See if the nice people at Leica have a leftover box of pre-war KASAM film cassettes that they are willing to part with, so I can load my early Leica II with them?

;)

raid
05-30-2016, 00:38
Information for the Leica visit:

the address is: Am Leitz-Park 5, 35578 Wetzlar.

There are parking lots for visitors directly in front of the building.

raid
05-30-2016, 00:39
Enjoy the visit, folks. See if the nice people at Leica have a leftover box of pre-war KASAM film cassettes that they are willing to part with, so I can load my early Leica II with them?

;)

Stuff like that is meant for Customer Service, Johan :D

k__43
05-30-2016, 02:06
Ask them if they could try to reduce size of the digital M to what the M6 was like :D

raid
05-31-2016, 09:09
The visit today to Leica went very well. We received VIP treatment for sure. Three high ranking Leica officials met with us. The visit started with lunch around 12:30. and it ended around 4:30 after a great presentation by the optics designer of Leica. Then we sat in Leica Coffee Shop and chatted. It was a very friendly reception by Leica to our small RFF group.

Oliver Kaltner talked about his vision for Leica, and he went over his employment past and his contributions to other companies before he came to Leica. I will post photos after we get back to the USA some time in June. Kaltner addressed Lina and Dana as the next generation of Leica users.

user237428934
05-31-2016, 10:46
Just returned home from this great visit. This was way better than I expected before. Thanks Raid for your part of organizing this. Nice group, a pitty that we didn't have more time together.

I gave my M9 in for an inspection / cleaning and was able to take it home again the same day. And they even exchanged the time selector wheel because some of the times on the old one were already black. Thank you Leica for that super service.

ernstk
05-31-2016, 10:56
Excellent day!

Thanks to Raid for organising it. Great meetings with Stefan Daniel and Oliver Kaltner and as an extra bonus, we had an hour with lens meister Peter Karbe.

Highly enjoyable...

robert blu
05-31-2016, 13:15
It has really been a great day, thanks you all!
robert

pepeguitarra
05-31-2016, 15:26
The visit today to Leica went very well. We received VIP treatment for sure. Three high ranking Leica officials met with us. The visit started with lunch around 12:30. and it ended around 4:30 after a great presentation by the optics designer of Leica. Then we sat in Leica Coffee Shop and chatted. It was a very friendly reception by Leica to our small RFF group.

Oliver Kaltner talked about his vision for Leica, and he went over his employment past and his contributions to other companies before he came to Leica. I will post photos after we get back to the USA some time in June. Kaltner addressed Lina and Dana as the next generation of Leica users.

Did they show you the working room and the lady cleaning up the sensors with the Pentax rubber tip?

raid
06-01-2016, 00:14
We saw through windows at several work rooms. While one or two RFF members had their cameras adjusted (give up camera before tour, pick it up afterwards), I did not do it.

raid
06-01-2016, 00:20
Excellent day!

Thanks to Raid for organising it. Great meetings with Stefan Daniel and Oliver Kaltner and as an extra bonus, we had an hour with lens meister Peter Karbe.

Highly enjoyable...

Stefan Daniel spent one hour touring the history of Leica in the splendid new hall in the new Leica building. He addressed all questions put to him by us. This was a special treat.

Oliver Kaltner gave us about 45 minutes of his busy time, and he was very nice to all of us. Herr Kaltner shared with us his vision for Leica, explaining to us how optical engineering was the foundation and also the future . A treat indeed.

Silke Benrhardt did first class organizing and hosting of the events. Her role was crucial. Thank you!


Peter Karbe gave us a detailed slide presentation of Tradition and Innovation at Leica. It was a 75 minute presentation. Again, a real treat.

pepeguitarra
06-01-2016, 05:23
This is so cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mnutzer
06-01-2016, 07:52
@Raid and all participants,
many personal thanks for making possible this short term participation to your VIP visit at Leica.
The unexpected excellent lecture by Peter Karbe full of details of the Leica optics nowadays, in past and future was an unforgettable highlight in addition to the excellent factory tour by Stefan Daniel and the most interesting insights into the mind and philosophy of CEO Oliver Kaltner.
Also many thanks to the excellent organization by Silke Bernhardt and all other members of the staff who allowed us this great experience.
Never to forget those personally unknown COK (chief of kitchen:)) and the teams of canteen and café.
It was wonderful to meet new Leica friends.
Thanks again!
Bernd

Kent
06-01-2016, 10:06
Indeed! It was a very special experience. In what company would a CEO take so much time to talk to a rather small group of visitors? Oliver Kaltner also seems to be a very nice person, someone I really would like to drink a glass of good wine with. :)

It was also great to meet you guys. I really enjoyed that.

Thank you very much for the organization again, Raid!

Carsten

raid
06-01-2016, 11:14
Hi Carsten,
I agree with you on what you have posted here above.
It was great to meet up with you again.

raid
06-01-2016, 11:26
Just returned home from this great visit. This was way better than I expected before. Thanks Raid for your part of organizing this. Nice group, a pitty that we didn't have more time together.

I gave my M9 in for an inspection / cleaning and was able to take it home again the same day. And they even exchanged the time selector wheel because some of the times on the old one were already black. Thank you Leica for that super service.

It was nice to meet you Tom. Things worked out very well at the Leica visit.

BillBingham2
06-01-2016, 11:52
Congratulations Raid on an RFF First! Without your focus, professionalism, respect and knowledge it would never have been!

Very well done. I hope the rest of your travels go a well. Be safe, have fun, and keep setting the bar high!

B2 (;->

raid
06-01-2016, 13:09
Thank you, Bill.
It was a nice feeling at the Leica visit.

raid
06-02-2016, 11:34
I told them at Leica that this visit may trigger visits by other RFF groups in the future. They said that this would be fine. I believe that RFF has an amazing group of members, with a lot of knowledge about RF cameras and lenses and about RF photography overall.

Kent
06-02-2016, 11:40
You know, it was like "the head, the heart and the brain" of Leica who guided us through this day, wasn't it?

raid
06-02-2016, 11:56
They explained why only Leica digital M cameras had the design capabilities to fully optimize the use of M lenses. The scientific explanations were really cool and very informative. There were no sales pitches, in my opinion. The language used was the language of science.

ernstk
06-02-2016, 12:05
They explained why only Leica digital M cameras had the design capabilities to fully optimize the use of M lenses. The scientific explanations were really cool and very informative. There were no sales pitches, in my opinion. The language used was the language of science.

I agree Raid. There was no selling whatsoever.

Peter Karbe said (about the relationship between new digital innovation and the tradition of the 'M')

"We needed to fit digital technology to the M System (and lenses) and not the other way around". I thought that was very enlightening.

Ernst

ernstk
06-02-2016, 12:13
You know, it was like "the head, the heart and the brain" of Leica who guided us through this day, wasn't it?

That's a very good way of describing it!

Ernst

raid
06-02-2016, 12:36
Oliver Kaltner told us that "it was new to him" to be associating with a website (such as RFF), and that he will try it out. He also promised to be available to address questions about Leica. Which optical engineering company has its CEO make such statements?

robert blu
06-02-2016, 12:38
You know, it was like "the head, the heart and the brain" of Leica who guided us through this day, wasn't it?

Yes so it was, and I love this description!
robert

raid
06-02-2016, 12:43
Head ==>
Heart ==>
Brain ==>

Fill in the names ..

----------------------------------

Edited: Of course, each of the three leaders who were kind enough to meet with us share ownership of Head-Hreat-Brain within their organization, but each having different specific responsibilities. What Carsten meant to say (I think) is that the collective input form these three gentlemen was to allow our small RFF group to experience a small portion of what {Head-Brain-Heart) of Leica to experience it all combined. Am I correct, Carsten?

Mackinaw
06-02-2016, 12:53
Raid, was there any mention of film cameras, i.e., the MP and M7? Just curious.

Jim B.

user237428934
06-02-2016, 12:54
Head ==>
Heart ==>
Brain ==>

Fill in the names ..

You surely will offend someone by doing this.

user237428934
06-02-2016, 12:56
Raid, was there any mention of film cameras, i.e., the MP and M7? Just curious.

Jim B.

Film? Nah! There was some talking about the role of the smartphone. :)

airfrogusmc
06-02-2016, 14:00
Raid you rock for doing this. Just wish I could have been in Germany to join in. Sounds like a great experience for everyone.

ernstk
06-02-2016, 14:31
My view...

Head = Oliver Kaltner
Heart = Stefan Daniel
Brain = Peter Karbe

Tho in reality you could exchange any of those names and it would still be a positive answer...

Ernst

Duane Pandorf
06-02-2016, 15:03
Thanks for the updates and glad the field trip went well. Any mention at all on service/repair side of the business and length of time to get your gear back in a more timely fashion?

raid
06-02-2016, 23:11
You surely will offend someone by doing this.

It is maybe that each of the three leaders who met with us share ownership of these three vital elements, Tom.

raid
06-02-2016, 23:16
Raid, was there any mention of film cameras, i.e., the MP and M7? Just curious.

Jim B.

Hi Jim,
The tour of the Leica Museum was mainly about Leica film cameras, and there must have been some questions/answers on the M7 and the MP (was it by Ernst?).

raid
06-02-2016, 23:18
Film? Nah! There was some talking about the role of the smartphone. :)

You are wrong. Leica film cameras are their pride and joy, as we could see in their discussions. They call is "tradition" ...

raid
06-02-2016, 23:21
Thanks for the updates and glad the field trip went well. Any mention at all on service/repair side of the business and length of time to get your gear back in a more timely fashion?

I may be wrong here, but I did not hear anybody in our group ask any questions about customer service. Robert may have asked one question about this topic, and he was informed of the Leica service store in Italy.

In the end, when you get such a high level VIP tour and presentations, the coverage is usually about what these high ranking officials are best informed of. The CEO stated that he gladly will address questions (coming to him in the future) from RFF. There was no dodging of questions.

user237428934
06-03-2016, 01:09
Hi Jim,
The tour of the Leica Museum was mainly about Leica film cameras, and there must have been some questions/answers on the M7 and the MP (was it by Ernst?).

But I don't remember any question about the future of film M's.

ernstk
06-03-2016, 01:43
Hi Jim,
The tour of the Leica Museum was mainly about Leica film cameras, and there must have been some questions/answers on the M7 and the MP (was it by Ernst?).

I didn't ask the MP question. We talked a bit about M2 v M3 and some of us said we preferred the M2...

raid
06-03-2016, 07:37
But I don't remember any question about the future of film M's.

There were no such questions, and there were no comments made that suggested the end of Leica film cameras.

raid
06-03-2016, 07:38
I didn't ask the MP question. We talked a bit about M2 v M3 and some of us said we preferred the M2...

I said that maybe I am wrong, Ernst. :D

Emile de Leon
06-03-2016, 08:24
Sounds like a great trip and a great company..!
Its actually amazing in this day and age..that they offer to host gatherings of this sort.
Kudos the Leica!

raid
06-03-2016, 23:48
In addition to touring the Leica facilities, Wetzlar is a beautiful small town, with an Old Town portion with narrow lanes and old houses. We enjoyed our brief stay there.

raid
06-17-2016, 18:32
Our group in Wetzlar.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-zscqkvX/0/L/i-zscqkvX-L.jpg

raid
06-17-2016, 18:33
The optics master

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-B5pLw84/0/L/i-B5pLw84-L.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Germany-2016-iPhone-6/n-MXwsq3/i-dMZdZwV/0/L/i-dMZdZwV-L.jpg

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https://photos.smugmug.com/Germany-2016-iPhone-6/n-MXwsq3/i-v8Tw67s/0/L/i-v8Tw67s-L.jpg

raid
06-17-2016, 18:36
Where it happened ...

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-mJt2w4W/0/L/i-mJt2w4W-L.jpg

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Robert

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-ttcsMw8/0/L/i-ttcsMw8-L.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-JzCJgG4/0/L/i-JzCJgG4-L.jpg

raid
06-17-2016, 18:41
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-B3gkdGN/0/L/i-B3gkdGN-L.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-sfRB44C/0/L/i-sfRB44C-L.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-PH64BnR/0/L/i-PH64BnR-L.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Germany-2016-iPhone-6/n-MXwsq3/i-6md4gz2/0/L/i-6md4gz2-L.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Germany-2016-iPhone-6/n-MXwsq3/i-k2xt4tr/0/L/i-k2xt4tr-L.jpg

raid
06-17-2016, 18:43
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-d7Q9zJg/0/L/i-d7Q9zJg-L.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-HCK7hTx/0/L/i-HCK7hTx-L.jpg

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https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-P9LmDvj/0/L/i-P9LmDvj-L.jpg

raid
06-17-2016, 18:47
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-MJ2c79L/0/L/i-MJ2c79L-L.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-T8gJRrJ/0/L/i-T8gJRrJ-L.jpg

raid
06-17-2016, 19:11
Oliver Kaltner, CEO

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-RTPHq7x/0/L/i-RTPHq7x-L.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Germany-2016-iPhone-6/n-MXwsq3/i-8Gs5D78/0/L/i-8Gs5D78-L.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Germany-2016-iPhone-6/n-MXwsq3/i-d5pZcsX/0/L/i-d5pZcsX-L.jpg

raid
06-17-2016, 19:12
For some reason..I cant see the pics...

I use the usual way for posting images here

raid
06-17-2016, 20:25
These are all images from my iPhone. I have more photos in my M9.

analoged
06-17-2016, 22:49
I use the usual way for posting images here

Can't see um here either Raid! On a MacBook Air latest OS/Safari

user237428934
06-17-2016, 22:54
I copied the smugmug image url to the browser and nothing happens...a white browser window.

raid
06-18-2016, 00:15
I will do it again tomorrow. Very strange. They showed up on my screen,Hey amin ill be buy tomorrow. Total bill is 300 if you are able to leave a check out for me. Full month of pool and full month of yard. and now they are gone.

raid
06-18-2016, 00:18
The images were there but they are gone now.

raid
06-18-2016, 00:22
Can you see the images now? I fixed the problem, I think.

raid
06-18-2016, 00:39
https://photos.smugmug.com/Germany-2016-iPhone-6/n-MXwsq3/i-wpKbfwg/0/L/i-wpKbfwg-L.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Germany-2016-iPhone-6/n-MXwsq3/i-DkhcsHS/0/L/i-DkhcsHS-L.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Germany-2016-iPhone-6/n-MXwsq3/i-d8GxQfc/0/L/i-d8GxQfc-L.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Germany-2016-iPhone-6/n-MXwsq3/i-zgRGXcC/0/L/i-zgRGXcC-L.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Germany-2016-iPhone-6/n-MXwsq3/i-bgbpJQx/0/L/i-bgbpJQx-L.jpg

quejai
06-18-2016, 00:42
Yup, works fine now. thanks for the pics!

raid
06-18-2016, 00:44
A selfie ...

https://photos.smugmug.com/Germany-2016-iPhone-6/n-MXwsq3/i-JPfsmXk/0/L/i-JPfsmXk-L.jpg


https://photos.smugmug.com/Germany-2016-iPhone-6/n-MXwsq3/i-Lhnn5nz/0/L/i-Lhnn5nz-L.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Germany-2016-iPhone-6/n-MXwsq3/i-RNwxpML/0/L/i-RNwxpML-L.jpg

raid
06-18-2016, 00:52
I will tomorrow (actually, it is already Sunday) upload images taken with the M9.

user237428934
06-18-2016, 03:32
Perfect. Thank you.

raid
06-18-2016, 06:12
Feel free to upload to this thread photos from that visit. Everybody took photos then.

Kent
06-19-2016, 03:58
My view...

Head = Oliver Kaltner
Heart = Stefan Daniel
Brain = Peter Karbe

Tho in reality you could exchange any of those names and it would still be a positive answer...

Ernst

That's the way I see it as well.

Kent
06-19-2016, 07:44
Head ==>
Heart ==>
Brain ==>

Fill in the names ..

----------------------------------

Edited: Of course, each of the three leaders who were kind enough to meet with us share ownership of Head-Hreat-Brain within their organization, but each having different specific responsibilities. What Carsten meant to say (I think) is that the collective input form these three gentlemen was to allow our small RFF group to experience a small portion of what {Head-Brain-Heart) of Leica to experience it all combined. Am I correct, Carsten?

What I meant was that the "essential" parts of the "Leica body" sacrificed their time for us. And it was of course meant as a pun with their respective responsibilities. ;)

Emile de Leon
06-19-2016, 08:46
I can see this pics now...Thx!
Looks like a fine trip!

robert blu
06-19-2016, 09:54
Great photos from a great experience!
robert

raid
06-19-2016, 10:23
I agree. It started with an idea, and it ended with reality in Wetzlar.

giganova
06-19-2016, 10:37
Looks like an amazing trip! How wonderful that they devoted such much time for you, and that you even got to see the "factory" -- which looks amazingly clean and organized! A Wetzlar visit is now on my bucket list.

There were no sales pitches, in my opinion.
I go to Leica stores quite a lot and are always amazed that most of the discussions are about photography, with almost zero attempts to pitch a product or sell me anything. They might give me an SL or a Monochrome just to play around with, but leave me to it while they talk about photography or photographers. They always walk with me through the gallery and we spend hours discussing the photos. What a great brand philosophy!

raid
06-19-2016, 10:48
What I meant was that the "essential" parts of the "Leica body" sacrificed their time for us. And it was of course meant as a pun with their respective responsibilities. ;)

I knew what you meant by it, Kent.
These are very respectable people.
We were very lucky to get some of their times.

raid
06-19-2016, 12:57
Some photos taken with the M9 and 35 pre-asph:

https://photos.smugmug.com/Germany-2016-M9/n-cpg7cM/i-w9wndtD/0/XL/i-w9wndtD-XL.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Germany-2016-M9/n-cpg7cM/i-ZZCxgGD/0/XL/i-ZZCxgGD-XL.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Germany-2016-M9/n-cpg7cM/i-WXRPrb8/0/XL/i-WXRPrb8-XL.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Germany-2016-M9/n-cpg7cM/i-g2QzKH6/0/XL/i-g2QzKH6-XL.jpg

raid
06-19-2016, 13:00
https://photos.smugmug.com/Germany-2016-M9/n-cpg7cM/i-TVFzpCz/0/XL/i-TVFzpCz-XL.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Germany-2016-M9/n-cpg7cM/i-GGFLwx5/0/XL/i-GGFLwx5-XL.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Germany-2016-M9/n-cpg7cM/i-Tz6sDgC/0/XL/i-Tz6sDgC-XL.jpg

street ad in Wetzlar

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David Hughes
06-19-2016, 13:45
Looks like an amazing trip! How wonderful that they devoted such much time for you, and that you even got to see the "factory" -- which looks amazingly clean and organized! A Wetzlar visit is now on my bucket list.


I go to Leica stores quite a lot and are always amazed that most of the discussions are about photography, with almost zero attempts to pitch a product or sell me anything. They might give me an SL or a Monochrome just to play around with, but leave me to it while they talk about photography or photographers. They always walk with me through the gallery and we spend hours discussing the photos. What a great brand philosophy!

Hi,

Difficult to fault Leica's staff here, too. Alas, they were once just down the road from me but now have moved back to London. So were Rollei but they have gone forever...

Regards, David

raid
06-19-2016, 14:59
Leica is best found in major cities, I think.

jaapv
06-20-2016, 07:05
The Dutch Leica Store is in Lisse, in the middle of the flower bulb fields...

raid
06-20-2016, 08:53
This must be a beautiful view indeed.

robert blu
06-22-2016, 07:27
The visit in Wetzlar was great and both me and wife have been very happy to be part of this special event.

Of course an homage to Ernst Leitz is mandatory !

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/3692/med_U3692I1466604808.SEQ.2.jpg

My wife Simo even found a present for me in the shop, no it wasn't that new Leica but an interesting and beautiful book. Wow, Leica...

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/3692/med_U3692I1466604808.SEQ.1.jpg

Yes, I was in Wetzlar, yes me too :)

Photo taken by Simo with (my?) Leica x1

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/3692/med_U3692I1466604807.SEQ.0.jpg

raid
06-22-2016, 07:45
Hello Simo and Robert! It was great meeting up with you in Germany.

mnutzer
06-22-2016, 12:19
Feel free to upload to this thread photos from that visit. Everybody took photos then.

Thanks Raid,

hopefully there will be something to recognize.
These are my first photos in Rangefinder Forum with its very restrictive and enormous data reduction.

Greetings



http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/31858/med_U31858I1466607065.SEQ.0.jpg



http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/31858/med_U31858I1466607066.SEQ.1.jpg



http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/31858/med_U31858I1466604826.SEQ.0.jpg

pyeh
06-22-2016, 14:18
Mnutzer, that's a great one of Raid and his family. It's really good to see them all in one shot, and in such an interesting pose.

raid
06-22-2016, 17:46
Thank you for posting some images here from the visit.

giganova
06-22-2016, 19:07
Is it just me? I'm feeling a bit uneasy seeing all these luxurious buildings, rooms, furniture, exhibitions, statues, etc, realizing that we Leica customers finance all that.

raid
06-22-2016, 19:20
Yes, it is just you.

mnutzer
06-23-2016, 04:24
Two perhaps somewhat surreal influenced photos from the Leitz Park named 'Lecture' and 'Question':




http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/31858/U31858I1466678349.SEQ.0.jpg




http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/31858/U31858I1466678350.SEQ.2.jpg




Greetings

robert blu
06-23-2016, 04:54
A few snaps taken with the Leica x1 during the visit at Leitz Park

Raid, who wonderfully organized the event and his family

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/3692/med_U3692I1466682169.SEQ.0.jpg

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/3692/med_U3692I1466682169.SEQ.1.jpg

A few cameras on display in front of the window to the assembly facility

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/3692/med_U3692I1466682171.SEQ.3.jpg

Assembly a lens

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/3692/med_U3692I1466682170.SEQ.2.jpg

Explaining lenses, a little bit of theory

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/3692/med_U3692I1466682171.SEQ.4.jpg

raid
06-23-2016, 06:13
I am glad to see others post images from the visit here.

mnutzer
06-23-2016, 09:29
Rain clouds darken Café Leitz, where we enjoyed coffee and pastries inside.



http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/31858/med_U31858I1466698477.SEQ.0.jpg



Greetings

raid
06-23-2016, 10:34
Mnutzer, that's a great one of Raid and his family. It's really good to see them all in one shot, and in such an interesting pose.

I have very few photos with my family, so I am glad to see such photos here!

mnutzer
06-24-2016, 06:18
Peter Karbe refers on Max Berek's optical principles in context to Leica's history.



http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/31858/U31858I1466772200.SEQ.1.jpg




http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/31858/U31858I1466698478.SEQ.1.jpg




- All photos of the meeting at Leitz-Park have been taken by Leica M 8.2 and Summilux 35mm preasph. -

Greetings

alistair.o
06-24-2016, 06:29
Thanks for the thread and pictures.

PS: Raid, you strike quite a pose :D

raid
06-24-2016, 06:38
I do what I manage to do! In the end, we had a fruitful visit that everybody in our small RFF group enjoyed.

raid
06-24-2016, 06:49
Hello Helen,
It was "Grand" indeed. Having three Leica executives give use personal audiences, plus having a professional doing the arrangements for us with the three people who met with us was very special. I did not give Leica my M9 to check out. It works well and the sensor is clean. I wanted my M9 to take photos at Leica.

robert blu
06-24-2016, 07:14
It was a pleasure to meet other RFF photo enthusiast!

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/3692/med_U3692I1466777178.SEQ.3.jpg

the enthusiast photographer!

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/3692/med_U3692I1466777177.SEQ.1.jpg

Simo entertaining "the photographer's" daughters :)

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/3692/med_U3692I1466777177.SEQ.2.jpg

Production area

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/3692/med_U3692I1466777176.SEQ.0.jpg

raid
06-24-2016, 07:19
This is a nice mini tour, Robert. Thank you. I seem to have been quite happy looking in one of your images!

robert blu
06-26-2016, 09:24
After the visit...clouds over Wetzlar :)

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/3692/U3692I1466581161.SEQ.0.jpg

M7, 50 cron, delta 100

mnutzer
06-26-2016, 12:47
Another three photos taken during our visit at Leitz-Park:




http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/31858/U31858I1466967253.SEQ.1.jpg




http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/31858/U31858I1466967252.SEQ.0.jpg




http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/31858/U31858I1466970210.SEQ.0.jpg




Greetings

mnutzer
06-26-2016, 23:26
From Peter Karbe's lecture: For those who want to recalculate the optical values of their Elmars - of course without computers ...:)




http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/31858/U31858I1466987343.SEQ.0.jpg




Greetings

mnutzer
06-30-2016, 12:37
Another photo taken in the showroom and one again from the production.




http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/31858/U31858I1467018378.SEQ.0.jpg




http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/31858/U31858I1467201083.SEQ.0.jpg




Greetings

raid
06-30-2016, 15:28
Thanks for posting these additional photos from our visit to Leica.

mcfingon
07-17-2017, 23:54
I'm going to be in Leitz-Park Wetzlar on Monday 4 September 2017 Raid. Should I book a guided tour or just look for myself?

pechelman
07-18-2017, 07:28
i went this past april. I highly recommend you arrange a tour beforehand.

On occasion, especially when the tours get large, they dont take you very many places, but when the group is smaller, you get to see a good bit of the building and manufacturing areas. Our tour guide (Roland) was especially amazing and took us to places normally skipped since our group was about ~10 people.

sepiareverb
07-18-2017, 07:51
Any chance you might contact someone in Wetzlar about our terrible NJ service experiences?

raid
07-18-2017, 07:56
I'm going to be in Leitz-Park Wetzlar on Monday 4 September 2017 Raid. Should I book a guided tour or just look for myself?

I have no idea what you will get with a guided tour, but most likely, it will be useful to start with it.

Kent
04-24-2020, 03:20
Gosh, this thread brings back some great memories. Feels good in times like these.
What an amazing day that was!

robert blu
04-24-2020, 03:23
Great to revisit this thread, good memories...it was an exciting experience...

raydm6
04-24-2020, 05:46
Yes, great pics and insights into Leica.

raid
04-30-2020, 14:09
It was a once in a lifetime arranged meeting at Leica in Wetzlar. To meet with the CEO, VP, and Optical Designer all on a half-day was very special. I am still in touch with Oliver Kaltner, who moved away from Leica AG. He is now CEO of ROOM.