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nobbylon
01-05-2016, 12:30
Out of curiosity and please be honest.
Only lens or body purchase.
Have you ever bought NEW?
Multiple items don't count multiple, it's a sraight one vote per member.

Calzone
01-05-2016, 12:33
Monochrom three years ago.

Chrome 50 Elmare collapsible version 3 in 2008 with Leica rebate.

Cal

JPSuisse
01-05-2016, 12:42
I have bought several items new. Can I vote yes, or is this only one item? What is the idea behind this poll?

Livesteamer
01-05-2016, 12:44
A 50 Summilux asph about ten years ago. A few years before that I got some money from my Dad's estate and bought several new Leica lens's. The 28 Summicron is my favorite. Also one of the last available M6 .85 cameras new in 1999. I'd rather have Dad back but it doesn't work that way. Joe

jsrockit
01-05-2016, 12:46
Leica M9
Leica X1
Leica X2
Leica D-Lux 4
Leica Digilux 1

mervynyan
01-05-2016, 12:50
MP, 35/1.4, 75/2 APO, plan to buy another color M digital this year, I hope

jsrockit
01-05-2016, 12:53
I have bought several items new. Can I vote yes, or is this only one item? What is the idea behind this poll?

If it's been within the last 10 years, then you pick option #1. If it's been longer than 10 years, you pick option #2. If you've never bought, then option #3.

kdemas
01-05-2016, 12:55
Bought New:
M6
M7 .85
M7 .58
M7 .72
M8 (two)
R8
R9
D-lux 3
CM (film)

50 'Cron
50 Elmar
35 'Cron ASPH
50 Noct

I'm sure I'm forgetting something.

ferider
01-05-2016, 13:02
No.

But got a new 240 as a gift.

And bought a couple of new CV lenses.

marcr1230
01-05-2016, 13:13
Bought a new MP and a 50 'Cron a few years ago - I place the blame on RFF

back alley
01-05-2016, 13:13
i bought an m4-p when they were new, along with a nice 50 summicron, also new.

coelacanth
01-05-2016, 13:14
Bought new:
35 Cron ASPH LE
50 Lux ASPH LE
X1

Bought refurbished:
M9-P
Monochrom

Bought Certified Pre-owned:
M9-P #2

Bought used:
Too many to remember.

Timmyjoe
01-05-2016, 13:25
M-E this past summer when they lowered the price.

Back in 2000, bought an M6TTL & 50 Lux brand new. Everything else, used.

Jan Pedersen
01-05-2016, 13:25
Bought an M6 new 30 years ago and a new M246 last year.
Only one of my 7 Leica lenses were new, the 90mm Tele Elmarit (1913-1983)

zauhar
01-05-2016, 13:37
Not yet.

If I feel the need for a digital camera, the new SL and it's giant lens would be a nice choice. I say that mostly based on the sample images I have seen, which grabbed my attention (unlike the Sony Mark II that everyone is so excited about).

Wouldn't it be sad if I had the money to buy it, and then still found myself packing around the old M3? ;-)

Randy

jja
01-05-2016, 13:43
Summicron Asph. 35/2
Summilux Asph. 50/1.4

Jan Pedersen
01-05-2016, 13:43
Wouldn't it be sad if I had the money to buy it, and then still found myself packing around the old M3? ;-)


Not at all :) Someone's got to do it!

Darthfeeble
01-05-2016, 13:53
An M9, photo #L1000001 taken Feb. 20, 2012

traveler_101
01-05-2016, 14:02
It is completely out of the question price wise and I have lost interest with Leica's digital turn. I do enjoy my 50+ year old Leica equipment though.

Austerby
01-05-2016, 14:20
50 Summilux ASPH
75/2 Apo-Summicron
28mm f2.8 Elmarit

The first two sold for more than I paid for them.

JMQ
01-05-2016, 14:26
M9
MM
D-lux 4
21 SEM

Mackinaw
01-05-2016, 15:01
Yes, back in 2005. A camera store I used to frequent was selling Leica gear for 10% less than dealer invoice. I bought a new MP, 35mm Summicron Asph and a 90/2.8 Elmarit-M.

Jim B.

icebear
01-05-2016, 15:13
MM , Q .......

HOW CAN I GET RID OF AUTO SPELL CORRECTION FOR 2nd caps letter ?????

dee
01-05-2016, 15:29
Leica M8.
Leica Digilux 3

Both once in a lifetime inheritance purchases .

seakayaker1
01-05-2016, 15:43
New: MP (film), M-P-240, MM, 35/2 ASPH, 50/1.4 ASPH, 75/2 ASPH

Used: M6TTL, M8.2, M9, 24/3.8 ASPH, 35/1.4 ASPH, 90/2.8 ASPH, plus LTM 3.5cm/3.5, 5cm/2, 9cm/4, & 13.5cm/4.5

Sold the M8.2 to purchase a used M9. Took advantage of the Leica Upgrade and traded the M9 (bad sensor) for the M-P 240. Still have the rest but at some point will sell it off as the eyes continue to age and autofocus becomes a need. ..... not just quite yet.

YouAreHere
01-05-2016, 16:01
Yes. One camera, the ME, and just 2 lenses, the 21SEM and the T's 18-56 zoom. There's so much quality used equipment available it's hard for me to justify buying anything new anymore.

Doug
01-05-2016, 16:22
New, starting in 1967:
35 Summicron v.1, 90 Tele-Elmarit, 28 Summicron, 35 Summilux Asph, 50 Apo Summicron, 70 Summarit-S, 100 Summicron-S, M8, M9, M240, S2

Used:
M2, M8, 21 Elmarit Asph, 35 Summarit-S

Obviously I've not avoided buying new, but often at special pricing like this year's 12% currency exchange benefit, same in a previous year buying from UK, "demo" pricing, new-old-stock, etc.

Vics
01-05-2016, 16:30
No. My M3 will have to do it for this lifetime. (and that's OK)

aoresteen
01-05-2016, 16:39
In 1983 I bought a 50mm f/2 Summicron & a 90mm Tele-Elmarit new when I was stationed in Germany. Nothing new since.

Richard G
01-05-2016, 16:41
New: M9-P and Monochrom. And C-Lux 2. Only bought Zeiss lenses new x 2. Everything else (M2,5,6,II) including all Leica lenses second hand (one 28, two 35s, three 50s, three 90s, one 135.)

6x7
01-05-2016, 17:18
Does a "never used collector's item" count? No, it does not. It was "only" a 1980 M4-P, bought in 2010.

benmacphoto
01-05-2016, 17:19
I bought a new 35mm f1.4 Titanium Pre ASPH Summilux a few years back.
Everything else I bought Leica was used.

CK Dexter Haven
01-05-2016, 17:53
50 Lux-ASPH (Turned out to be a lemon. Replaced after 8 months by Leica).
CM.
M7? I think one of them may have been a 'demo.' Does that count?

Emile de Leon
01-05-2016, 18:29
Back in 1989..an M6..
And some new lenses since then..but not recently since the pricing has gone thru the roof..
Would like a WATE and a 50 apo though..

kbg32
01-05-2016, 18:32
In 1979 I bought a Leica M4-2, Leitz 28/2.8 Elmarit, and a Leitz 21/3.4 Super Angulon. Not at the same time. I bought a Leica M8 when they came out, and then three years later a demo Leica M9.

bohdan
01-05-2016, 19:11
The only Leica that I ever bought new is my M246...

<EDIT>...oops...I lied...I bought the M8 when it came out. Almost forgot about that one...

35mmdelux
01-05-2016, 19:18
50/1.4 Asph Black Chrome Classic (recently)

jalLee2001
01-05-2016, 19:34
M7, 90 cron, 35 cron, 28 from, 50 lux. Funny, as much as I look at used kit. The only thing I have bought used is an M6.

JHP
01-05-2016, 19:39
Hell naw.

:cool::eek:

One day maybe.

fenixv8
01-05-2016, 19:58
Purchased a Leica X2 new.

Rayt
01-05-2016, 20:01
All my current Leica bodies both film and digital were bought used. And 3 of my lenses were bought new 21, 35, 50 all latest Summilux.

arseniii
01-05-2016, 20:12
One time only, a pretty souvenir from New York City a brand new Leica MP .75 from Ken Hansen. Enjoying it till this day! Would probably never buy a new Leica again, especially a digital one with astronomical prices....

nobbylon
01-05-2016, 22:06
What did you expect, please be honest, not many new buyers?

For the record:
2 - M4 black chrome
2 - M6 first production, black chrome, one 50 f2 and one 75 f1.4
2 - M6 TTL Millenium and matching serial # 50 f2.8 Elmar lenses
Maybe a motor, could have been used.

All gone now... :)

Got to admit I expected a lot less new buying from this forums membership.
It's still a very tiny percentage of Leica's sales though. It's probably the same on other boards so I don't believe hobbyists and the odd pro are Leica's target. There must be a lot of gear bought new just sitting in drawers etc doing nothing.
I would personally never buy new simply because I don't believe they offer value for money. I'm the same with cars though so it's nothing new being a tight [email protected]@@. The last new items I bought were all Nikon.

jschrader
01-05-2016, 22:41
No, never. Would not.
If one does not want to have the latest and newest, there is no need. There is so much good used material on the market.

We should value old things. I am not young myself ;)

Only recycling can save the world

f16sunshine
01-05-2016, 22:43
I bought an m8, 35cron aspherical, summarit75, 21elmarit.
All were purchased new 2weeks before I bought them 21 and 75 never mounted.
The camera had a card with a dozen or so out of focus images.
The fellah bought it all during a cruise. I paid $7500. Sold all the lenses, kept the body, and pocketed $500.
I preferred my Biogon 35 and could live with the Heliar75 although the summarit is beautiful.

My inly dealer purchase was an FLE lux35 in 2012.
An xpro1 arrived that same week. I returned the Lux and sold my m8's.
Never conected with the M9 and the M240 was too late. I'm more than content to use fuji for digital and a bessa and older m for my two rangefinder lenses.

If I ever have the dough and loose any more common sense,.... I could buy an S2 and adapter to shoot old contax 645 lenses.

JHutchins
01-05-2016, 22:44
Got to admit I expected a lot less new buying from this forums membership.
It's still a very tiny percentage of Leica's sales though. It's probably the same on other boards so I don't believe hobbyists and the odd pro are Leica's target. There must be a lot of gear bought new just sitting in drawers etc doing nothing.
I would personally never buy new simply because I don't believe they offer value for money. I'm the same with cars though so it's nothing new being a tight [email protected]@@. The last new items I bought were all Nikon.


I think there's a false premise here, and that is that Leica makes development and production decisions based on a typical Leica consumer (who we probably really can safely assume is quite well off and who may or may not take photography especially seriously).

Just about *every* manufacturer, and almost certainly every manufacturer of branded goods, has a diverse customer base, some of whom are quite price sensitive and some of whom aren't. This is why economists draw demand curves as downward sloping. A demand curve is meant to sketch out the relationship between price and sales and at extremely high prices only a few units will be sold but as price drops more and more people think -- oh yeah, at that price I'll take the plunge -- and the number of sales increases. The demand curve is the sum of the behavior of many individuals, some of whom are spectacularly wealthy and would buy even if the price were many times what it is and some of whom are not and would only buy if the price were much, much lower than it is. The really important consumers for any manufacturer, though, are the marginal ones. The consumers who would be gained or lost by a particular decision being made by the firm. With one exception, those are the customers that a manufacturer is thinking about as it makes development decisions -- the ones who are on the edge of buying or not buying who might be gained or lost as a result of the decision. And I suspect many of those people are, well, the sort of people who hang out here. I know that I have been on the edge a couple of times (and once bought a new Leica body and another time decided not to buy a new Leica body -- but did buy one used. More about that later).

And I think that shows in Leica's observed behavior, because notwithstanding all the gripey threads, Leica really does act like a company that's trying to win photographers. That requires producing expensive products (and probably more so for a company like Leica which undoubtedly has a much higher cost structure than a company like Nikon). Somewhat oddball photographers to be sure but looking at all but the special editions, the new products being developed by Leica seem like things that are good faith attempts to win the business of people who are enthusiastic about photography.

The special editions are different of course -- those are maybe best explained as price discrimination. As I mentioned above, there are some people who would still buy a Leica even if it were vastly more expensive than it is. But a Leica MP (type 240) has a price and the Queen of England, with all her billions, doesn't have to pay any more for it than I would even though for me the purchase would involve an awful lot of economizing in other areas of my life, maybe more than I could manage and she'd not even notice the lost money. Many companies think, "Gosh, wouldn't it be great if we could charge a fortune to the folks who would pay a fortune without losing all the customers we'd lose if we charged that fortune for all our cameras?" And when those companies think that they start producing special editions -- the idea being make a few changes to differentiate the product from the less fancy one and charge an outrageous price for it. The marginal customers will still buy the normal product at the normal price, the ones who are not price sensitive can buy the fancy version. Production of special editions doesn't mean that a company has abandoned the man in the street user, it means it's trying to keep the man in the street while still making as much as it possibly can off the inhabitants of West Egg.

Finally, even folks who don't buy new Leicas matter in Leica's calculus. The existence of a robust market for used equipment makes the resale value of a Leica higher than it would be if there were no such market. That is something that can be capitalized in the price. You can charge more for a camera that ten years down the road will sell for 20% of its original cost than you can for a camera that ten years down the road will sell for 2% of its original cost. Again, the reason is the marginal user. Someone who's just on the edge of buying might decide to take the plunge instead of pass if he is confident that he can recapture some of what he spent when he goes to sell it (or replace an older model with a newer one if he can sell the older one for enough that the new one seems affordable).

So the fact that many -- maybe even most -- Leicas sell to exceptionally wealthy people is not all that relevant. When it comes to the day to day concerns that drive the direction of the company, what matters are expansions or contractions in sales as a result of the decisions made and those expansions or contractions are, by definition, the marginal purchaser -- the guy who's on the edge, trying to decide whether to buy or not buy.

nobbylon
01-05-2016, 23:02
interesting post thx

maitani
01-06-2016, 00:23
Never, besides, almost all Leica bodies or lenses I'm interested in, are out of production, with some patience you save 30-50% on retail esp on Leica digital bodies. Almost fell for the SL as a universal does it all camera, I think it's a fantastic camera, but I couldn't justify paying full retail for it.

pgk
01-06-2016, 00:50
M8, M8-2 & M9 - all 'new but ex-demo' therefore reduced in price, and as they are used professionally I reclaim the tax so cheaper still. The warranty is potentially worth paying for.

Absolutely new, yes, the 21SEM and worth every penny.

OurManInTangier
01-06-2016, 01:00
If one does not want to have the latest and newest, there is no need. There is so much good used material on the market.


For work I always buy new bodies if I can, or at least new enough that they have never been serviced.

I agree with both of these comments.

For work, new. Unless it's a backup body that's a great combination of price and condition/history. For me, quite happy to buy used now. Much like used cars there are some amazing bargains with just the right amount of use out there.

...and as they are used professionally I reclaim the tax so cheaper still. The warranty is potentially worth paying for.

^^^ That is the reason to buy new work gear in my opinion.

OurManInTangier
01-06-2016, 01:01
Doh. Forgot to answer the original question:o

M8 and M9.

I don't use Leica for work now so unless that changes I wouldn't do it again.

Gid
01-06-2016, 01:26
M8 (3 of them as the first two suffered sudden death) and D-lux 2.

Dralowid
01-06-2016, 01:31
M6TTL bought new, I still have it. Thinking about it in retrospect this was driven by the arrival of a bonus that made the purchase acceptable within the economics of the family.
I have bought eyesight correction lenses new also but have lost them all!

nobbylon
01-06-2016, 01:48
M6TTL bought new, I still have it. Thinking about it in retrospect this was driven by the arrival of a bonus that made the purchase acceptable within the economics of the family.
I have bought eyesight correction lenses new also but have lost them all!

off topic but do you mean correction lenses for Leica?
If so I just read a tip as I've just started using them myself.
A dab of clear nail varnish on the eyepiece thread will secure the lens.
when you need to seperate a drip of acetone into the thread will unlock it.

robert blu
01-06-2016, 02:40
A little more than 5 years ago I bought my X1 new.
Before I bought my M7.0,58 and a couple of lenses used.
robert

Lss
01-06-2016, 02:56
No, so far I haven't. The price point has simply been too high.

Leica has received my money for things like 6-bit coding, though.

Michel154
01-06-2016, 05:01
Summicron Asph. 28/2
Summilux Asph. 50/1.4

Dralowid
01-06-2016, 05:21
off topic but do you mean correction lenses for Leica?
If so I just read a tip as I've just started using them myself.
A dab of clear nail varnish on the eyepiece thread will secure the lens.
when you need to seperate a drip of acetone into the thread will unlock it.

I do indeed and at around Ł60 new not cheap. Thanks for the tip but I've lost them all and now, as I get older, my distance sight improves...

Erik van Straten
01-06-2016, 05:41
MP in 2003.

Erik.

kbg32
01-06-2016, 05:53
There was a time, pre-digital, where buying a new Leica M body made a lot of sense to people. Buying a second body most times lead to buying a used one and having it CLA'd if need be. As you know, in the age of film, those bodies lasted forever. One usually bought a film camera and had it for years and years. Fathers passed them on to their children and so on. Obsolescence really didn't exist. Nikon even made sure their lenses remained compatible with newer bodies. It was a tool. No one expected digital to ultimately change the game as much as it did.

eia41
01-06-2016, 06:00
MP and 50 cron

raid
01-06-2016, 06:25
No, I have never bought a new Leica lens or camera. The Standard Leica was bought used. The other "ones" too.

rogazilla
01-06-2016, 07:23
I don't think used market hurts Leica. It provide a chance for people to enter and try the brand without the high prices. Once you are hooked, you either continue to buy used or maybe they have a product that you are willing to buy new down the road.

There are tons of people who would still buy Canon 5d2 today to enter the FF DSLR world. Used market present another opportunity for the brand to lure would be Fan or people who wants to try before buy in and so on.

kbg32
01-06-2016, 07:38
Romantic? Personal opinion might vary Photomoof, but I knew quite a lot of friends growing up getting the family's or father's camera. I got quite a few medium format cameras, including 16mm and 8mm film cameras.

kiemchacsu
01-06-2016, 07:44
Not yet and (probably) never will

ajramirez
01-06-2016, 09:39
M9P and M-P Typ 240 bodies. Also, an open box 24mm 3.8 Elmar M. All of my other lenses, and my M6TTL, were bought used.

Pioneer
01-06-2016, 09:40
M-a 2014

aoresteen
01-06-2016, 10:00
Does a "never used collector's item" count? No, it does not. It was "only" a 1980 M4-P, bought in 2010.

Mine was newer. A 1981 M4-P bought in 2004 :D

richard_l
01-06-2016, 10:59
New Summicron 50/2 purchased in late 1990s.

drew.saunders
01-06-2016, 11:10
Bought grey market new, back when the Mark/$ or Euro/$ exchange rates made that a really good deal:
M6TTL 0.58x (right when the Euro came out and briefly tanked compared to the $, got a 1.25x thrown in for free!)
35/2 ASPH
24/2.8 ASPH and finder.

Used? Everything else except the CV lenses.

bobby_novatron
01-06-2016, 11:35
I've always bought used. It would be wonderful to buy Leica products new, and I'd like to support the company directly, but it's especially hard to justify it with the Canadian dollar at a 14-year low. When I look at the exchange rates between Cdn $ / US $ / Euro, it's really really painful.

In a year or two the situation will likely be different and I might re-consider.

jaapv
01-06-2016, 12:05
Actually I have a feeling that I contributed substantially to Leica's financial revival...:eek: Still, the feeling of opening a new box of Leica gear does give a mild Adrenalin rush, there is no denying it...;)

nobbylon
01-06-2016, 12:18
Actually I have a feeling that I contributed substantially to Leica's financial revival...:eek: Still, the feeling of opening a new box of Leica gear does give a mild Adrenalin rush, there is no denying it...;)

I think you probably did!

Landberg
01-06-2016, 12:40
I just bought a new Leica M-E. It broke:P haha. I guess that all i want is to shoot with film leicas but i dont have the time to develop no more. And send the film away takes away all the fun.

FPjohn
01-06-2016, 12:57
M4 and M6 new. Summilux and Summicron new. Best purchases were all used, especially the IIIb. yours FPJ

Tijmendal
01-06-2016, 14:13
All used. In fact, I don't think I've ever bought any camera related item over 100€ new. Second-hand is amazing.

Ronald M
01-06-2016, 15:05
bought both about equally.

Well worn item usually work great. Old pristine items, use caution. There are exceptions.

Leica All Day
01-07-2016, 20:07
I bought my M6ttl in 2001 new when there was a 200 USD rebate. It was my first Leica and it will probably be the last new item that I purchase from Leica. Two weeks ago I bought an M6ttl Black Paint Millennium for around the same price that I paid for my original M6ttl.

I don't have any problem buying anything new from Leica, I just don't think that they will make any new cameras or lenses that I will want to purchase .

Cheers, michael

Mute-on
01-07-2016, 21:37
MP 0.58
50 Summicron

JayC
01-08-2016, 06:50
ZM 25mm. Does that count?
Last new purchase was a Nikon 17-55 about 7 years ago.
Only other new lens purchase was in 1984/5. A zoom for my Fujica stx-1.

BillBingham2
01-08-2016, 09:59
M4-P new
M6 new
90/2 new
35/2 new
21/2.8 demo but first owner

Such a long time ago....

All rehomed now.

B2 (;-<

FPjohn
01-08-2016, 10:22
So we are aging elitist bottom feeders? yours FPJ

BillBingham2
01-08-2016, 11:37
So we are aging elitist bottom feeders? yours FPJ

Not sure I'd call us that, I've spent a LOT more on other RF stuff and a bit of that was used Leica gear.

At this point in time Leica doesn't make anything I want to invest that much money into.

B2 (;->

Bill Clark
01-08-2016, 13:50
One new lens.

Otherwise used.

DougFord
01-08-2016, 14:06
Elmarit-m 28mm 2.8 asph lens, purchased new, soon after it was released. It made for a very nice combo when paired with the CLE. Long since sold. My first and presumably my last purchase of a new Leica product.

PICHA
01-08-2016, 14:09
M4-P and Summicron 35, both engraved 1913-1983 my main camera since april 1984

barnwulf
01-08-2016, 14:22
I bought a used Leica M8 that was a Code U from Leica that had been a Leica reps camera. My local camera store and Leica dealer got it for me. It was refurbished and came with a new warranty. It was like new. I saved about $2,500.00 to $3,000.00 by doing that. No way would I buy a new one since they are just out of my price range. I have always bought good used Leica gear and only a couple of older lenses. - jim

seajak
01-08-2016, 16:58
I bought my M6 new in 1986. A few years later I bought a 90mm Elmarit-M but sold it recently in favour of a Tele-Elmarit because I prefer smaller lenses (and like to stay with one filter size).

cheers,
clay

raydm6
01-09-2016, 04:24
Yes, in 1985: M6, 35 Summicron, 90 Thin Tele-Elmarit (all else below in sig, used)

kdemas
01-09-2016, 22:46
Bought New:
M6
M7 .85
M7 .58
M7 .72
M8 (two)
R8
R9
D-lux 3
CM (film)

50 'Cron
50 Elmar
35 'Cron ASPH
50 Noct

I'm sure I'm forgetting something.


Forgot my former X1 and Null Series.

Ambro51
01-10-2016, 04:52
Well, if I were alive in the 30s and 40s I'd buy new, but frankly I find M and Later Leicas about as visually appealing as an old East German government building. Leica, as I see it, peaked in 1938

TRIago
01-10-2016, 06:06
I neved did. And I don't see myself doing it anytime soon. All used from decente dealers:

Leica Shop Vienna
M6 Classic + 50mm Elmar-M

Japan Camera Hunter
35mm Cron Asph

Ken Hansen
M9

Tamarkin
50mm Cron Rigid

KEH
M3 DS



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sepiareverb
01-10-2016, 07:36
New: M9 (2x), MP (2x), MP3 50/2.4, 28/2.8 ASPH, 75/2.0 AA.

From Freestyle (via the education discount program), Photo Village and ebay.

Ko.Fe.
01-10-2016, 08:21
I'm not buying new. Any camera, lens maker. Makes no sense financially.
My M4-2 does exactly the same for me as brand new film M something will do.
I also believe what esthetically camera has to match with lens.
For example, I could buy new Ultron, but most likely going to get Canadian Cron for M4-2. Or I could sell like new Bessa T with perfectly matching almost like new 25 F4 M. And buy Canadian Lux for the price of new German Summarit...

Wait!!! I purchased new Holga Pan 135 :)

Kent
01-10-2016, 10:20
M8, M6, Cron-M 50, Cron-M 90, Elmar-R 180, Summitar 5cm, C2

Formerly: Digilux-2, Cron-R 50, Cron-R 35, Elmarit-R 35...


None of those I bought new.

Souljer
02-01-2016, 04:00
Yes.
Three Leica bodies and one lens.
A chrome M6 in early 1990s and a black M6 .85 in the late 1990s and a matching 50mm f2.8 Elmar. Also a MiniLux. I guess that would be a lens and a body? :D

Everything else has been used.
I got a 85mm f1.5 (actually the first thing I ever got).
Shortly after, the chrome body, then I got a 35mm 1.4 Summilux.
These, with the .85 vf M6, worked well for me for quite a long time. And in fact, still do to this day.

I used a new MiniLux (40mm lens) with them. This was stolen. It was a great little point & shoot camera with a very quiet shutter. Still have the box for some reason...

Regarding buying new for work and the warranty:
A couple years later while working outside all week, one day the black M6 got it's shutter burned through by the sun.

I sent it to Leica under their Passport Warranty and they repaired it for free.
I still have the original boxes and receipt for the repair.

Regarding resale and used market value:
New the M6 .85 cost almost $2000. $1895. or something like that.
The used 85mm cost about $1200. as I recall.
So if I was going to sell these two what do you think the profit or loss would be? Used but no brass showing condition. The camera base plate still has the clear plastic that it came with. So it's probably not even scratched under there.

Do you think Leica cameras and lenses have a reputation for being tough and dependable? If so perhaps that would add value. Which may translate to justifying higher prices.
My gear has been drop onto concrete floors, kicked, etc. I used to take pictures at clubs and some of the bands had some aggressive fans. Once my sister accidentally knocked the .85 from a table onto the hard floor when we were attending a wedding of a mutual friend. It landed on the lens (the 35mm Summilux) and sort of caved in/ bent the vented aluminum hood. :bang: I gently bent it back out of the way to round(ish) and kept on shooting. Did not affect the camera or lens as far as I could tell. Now I look at the slight wave in the hood and laugh. :) What if that had been a camera and lens with more plastic parts? Electronics and micro motors?

I eventually sold the chrome M6 and the black 50mm.

A few years ago I picked up a 135 f2.8 and I also have a 50mm collapsible Summicron (LSM).

Ko.Fe.
02-01-2016, 06:11
One new lens. Summarit 35 2.5. But once I took it out of the box, it is not new anymore...

jaapv
02-01-2016, 10:43
I always buy bodies new. Except of course old collectible ones.Lenses mostly as well, but I don't mind a used one. after all, many nice lenses are not in the catalog any more.

FrankS
02-01-2016, 11:07
Can't afford to. All my Leica bodies and lenses were bought used, and they are all vintage or older models, nothing newish.

Nigel Meaby
02-01-2016, 12:23
I bought a new Leica M6 and 35mm Summicron V4 in the nineties...foolishly sold them some years later. It's all been used Leica since then.

geertvn
02-01-2016, 14:44
Lux 50 a couple of years ago.
I use it mainly on a fuji x-pro1 (handles much faster in manual in very dark environments than any of the fuji lenses).

alan davus
02-01-2016, 14:51
M6ttl.58x
M-E
I have 11 lenses which are used with the above. None are Leicas. Some (Hex M's) were bought (new) before my first Leica purchase and i haven't seen any reason to "upgrade?" them. I would love to own the 50 1.4 Lux though just to find out what all the hoopla is about this lens. Haven't felt any need to upgrade from the M-E to the M 240 but would love to buy a new MP film body. In fact i would buy the MP long before splashing new money on the 50 Lux.

35photo
02-01-2016, 16:15
Never, Almost bought a new M9 ended up buying a used one from a the Leica Store in Miami.

Chromacomaphoto
02-04-2016, 16:14
Used everything. That said, there was one small purchase. I bought a brand hood for a 35 'Cron once from a Leica store, I needed it and happened to be passing. Bought on a whim. That was it. No wonder they have to sell new stuff for such high prices, their stuff from decades ago is often just as good as anything new and so everybody keeps buying that instead!

Rob-F
02-04-2016, 18:46
Within the past 10 years: D-Lux 3 D-Lux 4 D-Lux 6.

More than 10 years ago: (OK, more than 20 years ago--make it 30-- OK, OK, it was in the 1960's): M2; 35mm Summaron; 90mm Elmarit. I still have them.

literiter
02-07-2016, 16:19
Brand new M4-P in 1986 then 50mm 1987.....still have both.

dof
02-07-2016, 18:31
I've bought a few new items. No regrets with any of them.

More than 10 years ago:

M6 TTL - in 1999My first Leica and I thought it would be my last. Boy what a slippery slope I entered into with this one.

Within the last 10 years:

M8 & 28mm Summicron-M - When discounted in 2008This combo is still my favorite "35mm" walkabout setup. Absolutely love it.

75mm APO-Summicron-M - in 2014
This one is the crazy one:

50mm APO-Summicron-M in 2014Still happy to have it and remain amazed I found the nerve to pull the trigger and buy it!

asiafish
02-07-2016, 21:43
Leica M-E purchased new April last year.
35mm f/2.5 Summarit purchased new in August 2013.
50mm f/2 Summicron purchased new in October 2015.

The rest of my Leica gear was purchased used.

oldsarge
02-10-2016, 16:43
1952 in Korea lllf with f2 summitar.i

1963 in Germany M3 with 50mm summilux.

gilgsn
02-11-2016, 00:45
No.
I can't afford a new Leica. I had the M4-P, IIIc and M2. Even the used digital models are outside of my price range. I did spend $2K on a Summilux once though. I would simply not buy a digital Leica. Older film models last forever. You can always fix an M2, no matter what. If it gets destroyed, well, you lose $600, not $6K. I had my Fuji X100S break after 5K shots.. Leicas do that too sometimes. The sensor will get bad and you have an expensive paper weight. If they were more like $3K, I might save up and get one, but not for more. I would need to be much richer to risk buying such an expensive digital camera. There are other digital cameras out there just as good and costing half the price. For film though, Leica is it.

Gil.

Lss
02-11-2016, 00:52
There are other digital cameras out there just as good and costing half the price. For film though, Leica is it.
There are plenty of film alternatives for any Leica, although you may need to buy used. The only alternative for digital M cameras is the Epson R-D1.

Preferences are a different matter, of course.

wt67
02-13-2016, 07:21
Have to admit, most of my purchases are for new Leica lenses. Will buy used, of course, mostly when no longer available new. Just got a new 50mm Apo Summicron M. But also just got a used 75mm Apo Summicron M - price was just too good.

narsuitus
02-14-2016, 10:31
I purchased a used Leica body over 10-years ago.

maggieo
02-24-2016, 13:27
M8, 2007. M9-p, 2012.

TennesseJones
02-24-2016, 14:23
I've never bought a new camera or lens of any type!
Shocking.
But such great value in the used market.

airfrogusmc
02-24-2016, 15:52
All in the last 3 1/2 years
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/Cameras/IMG_1934_zpsryrhpb3v.jpg

L to R
Leica M 262 35 Lux FLE, M-E 90 cron (mid 1980s), MM and Zeiss 35 2.8 Biogon C ZM

l3ica
03-02-2016, 03:16
New: 50mm cron v5.

And also my very first Leica purchase. Considering that I use this one quite a lot, I should have just bought a used one.

Pablito
03-07-2016, 18:35
Two M6 and three lenses in 1996.

No interest in any of their current offerings.

jamesk8752
03-07-2016, 19:05
M9, M Typ 240, 6 or 7 M lenses.

john_s
03-08-2016, 02:50
Three new lenses had to go back for faults. Several second hand lenses have all been good. The only new body I bought had to go back twice to have its rangefinder finally put right, and the second hand older body has been fantastic from the beginning.

smk
03-08-2016, 03:38
50mm Summilux-M E46 millennium black paint

3 x 50mm Summilux-M Asph (black, silver, black chrome)

28mm Elmarit-M Asph

Leica MP a la carte

(And numerous used items)

ellisson
03-22-2016, 17:54
A current summicron 50 essentially new, but labeled as "mint" because it was returned to Leica. It then made it's way back to the retailer and the sale to me included the Leica three year passport. The price was significantly reduced.

redhawk
06-09-2016, 11:55
The only things I ever bought new were a 50 Lux ASPH and a 25/2.8 Biogon, both about three years ago. Everything else has always been used. At the time the 50 ASPH was near-impossible to find used and I got a good deal on it and saved on sales tax by buying out of state. I mainly shoot film bodies but I've got my eye on used M9-Ps and M-Ps.

Sure there's something romantic about starting with brand new equipment and putting age and patina on it yourself but you've got to have deep pockets for that kind of romanticism! I still try to find the best examples of used equipment I can and in some cases can start with nearly pieces to begin with but I think most of us shooters are willing to overlook previous-owner wear and get to making pictures.

Erik van Straten
07-28-2016, 03:34
An MP, when the camera was introduced in 2003. I never was very happy with the camera because of the inaccuracy of the framelines.

Erik.

Ronald M
07-28-2016, 04:40
Used in excellent condition is priced too high relative to new unless it is digital and the model has been superseded. Then the defects have become largely known.

Buying a current model that looks as if it was used by a war photographer would have to be free.

My M8 was just a trial to see in general how I liked digital Leica. It had few miles on it. I still own and use . The M9P was bought new.

There is always the issue of we can not read the shutter clicks on 240 so that is like buying a used car without looking at odometer reading.

Nikons are easy to read and they are direct. I don`t buy them used unless they are close to new as Nikon does not keep spare parts very long.

Godfrey
07-28-2016, 05:07
Yes. =======

Gregm61
07-28-2016, 06:04
M262 this past February. 35mm f2 Summicron ASPH, not long after it was introduced, and when it cost $1,495 new. It's now double that and more.

Fuchs
07-28-2016, 07:25
Back in the 90's I bought a new M6 (that I still own) and an R6. Then, in 2007, an M8. I regret having sold the R6 and having bought the M8.

DanielDuarte
07-28-2016, 17:01
M240 -> Then bit by the SL bug then I found out my family business was sold and the family kicked my wife and out, so we had to move and the SL was sold to pay rent.

Otherwise, no. I have an M6TTL and M9 purchased used.

Ken Hansen gets a lot of my dollars, stellar 50 LUX ASPH off him.

mkorabo
07-28-2016, 18:20
Black Leica T Body & 35 Summicron Asph.

michaelwj
07-28-2016, 18:34
No.

In the words of Australian band Regurgitator:
"I like your old stuff better than your new stuff"

https://youtu.be/Iun4shGD740

Talus
08-19-2016, 20:16
It seems that I'm in the same crowd as many. All used. I'm ok with that.

sara
08-19-2016, 23:00
No, because I can't afford new ones 😂

Jockos
08-20-2016, 00:27
I tried to buy a new 50 summilux ASPH once, gave up after five months of waiting, and got a used one instead.

robbeiflex
08-20-2016, 15:41
After five years shooting various used Leica film (M6), digital (M-E), and lenses, I bought a new M262 early this year. I was finally at the point where I knew I would keep it for many years, had the money saved up, and the timing aligned with a new model that I felt was right for me. So far, so good, and I am enjoying it a lot. Shortly after the M262 arrived, I sold some stuff to buy a used 35 summicron, reverting to my usual preference for used gear. When it comes to buying new lenses I preferred Zeiss until now, but with good digital and film M bodies already paid for and usable for many years I can now justify saving up for a new Leica lens.

Cheers,
Rob


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Doug
08-20-2016, 15:50
Yes... But starting earlier with a 9-year-old M2 and new 35 Summicron. Both my M8 bodies came used through RFF Classifieds. And the now-gone used M9 too. The M240 and S2 were new but "store demo" cameras. I keep looking for ways to cut the costs!

Steve Ash
08-22-2016, 12:45
Yes, one body (M8.2) and three lenses (Summicron 28 Asph, summilux 50 Asph and Summicron 75 Asph.). I added a new but demo lens (summilux 35) and like new but used SE 21 Asph. this year. I am waiting to add a new Leica M of the next generation.


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Penzes
08-22-2016, 13:28
28mm Elmarit ASPH.
35mm Summilux ASPH. FLE
50 Summilux ASPH.


All of them in the last 3 years.

barnwulf
08-22-2016, 16:25
No, not when you can buy like new ones for a more reasonable price. I don't buy new cars either. Saved thousands and I still have very nice things. - jim

Cyriljay
08-27-2016, 16:01
50mm black Summicron about 2000

Ronald M
08-27-2016, 19:17
Used stuff in good condition is priced to high. It should be 30% new and then lower from there based on condition. Digital bodies especially.

I prefer to purchase new early in product cycle. Same with cars.

Dogman
08-29-2016, 06:34
Yes. My first Leica experience was a new M4-P and three new E. Leitz lenses. That was well over 25 years ago. It was not a match made in heaven. I was too much into using Nikon SLRs at the time so I sold the whole package after about two years.

Years later, I got the Leica bug again and bought a couple of used M6 bodies and a few used lenses. The match was much better that time. I used those cameras and lenses until I switched to 100% digital.

bayernfan
09-07-2016, 21:22
as long as there continues to be well-kept film-era leica equipment available, i won't ever be buying anything new from Leica. the new (digital) stuff doesn't even feel like it's made by the same company, and i suppose it's not.

ramosa
09-08-2016, 11:21
Sure, quite a few. Three new bodies: M8, M9, and Q. And the following new lenses: Super Elmar 18mm, Elmarit 28mm ASPH, Cron 35mm ASPH, Cron 50mm, and Lux 50mm ASPH. I have purchased several lenses used (e.g., Lux 35mm ASPH, Elmarit-M 90mm) and several bodies used (e.g., M6, M7), as well--and only kept a body and 2-3 lenses at most times. Resale was never bad, but was especially good for the faster lenses.

helenhill
09-08-2016, 16:15
Hey Chris ... Ramosa

Are You now shooting with the 'Q' ?
If so Cool !!
I tried One recently at an ICP / Rff event... Was quite Impressed with it's speed , quietness,
Quick to focus

jb89
09-08-2016, 16:38
Yep recently bought a brand new M-P 240, buying new without tax was cheaper than second hand!

hugivza
09-10-2016, 15:53
MP 240, Monochrom (M9 version), D-Lux (Typ 113), Summilux 21, Summicron 35, plus host of second hand!

scigeek
09-20-2016, 07:08
New M6/50mm Elmar back in '96. Strictly 2nd-hand since then.

ckuwajima
09-20-2016, 07:14
Never, ever tempting though :D

wjlapier
09-24-2016, 13:47
Ala Carte M7. Lost confidence in the camera after three trips to NJ and DAG for various issues. Sold it. Lately a NOS Leitz M6 Classic that runs very smooth. Just what I envisioned a Leica to be.

Chromacomaphoto
10-09-2016, 06:22
Well, I was thinking "Me buy new Leica gear ? yeah right!" ...but then to be fair I do recall buying a brand new Leica square shaped hood which I jury-rigged to my first pre-asph 35mm lux with the old black rubber hair band trick. That is the only new Leica item I have ever purchased! Sold it with the lens. As for a body or glass, never. I like the older stuff anyway and they made it so well might as well buy second hand.

iphoenix
11-03-2016, 23:28
Can't afford to buy new; however I've only had good experiences buying Leitz and Leicas 2nd hand - even when a CLA was needed. So far!!

ph.
11-20-2016, 05:43
Hologon number 5736341 had been sitting on the importers shelf for much too long, so I bought it at quite a good rebate on the list price. Kept it for some years and enjoyed its wide perspective and lack of distortion (and lack of vignetting which was substantial if one did not use the graduated "verlauffilter"). Like the collapsible Summicron it could also be left on the camera and stuffed in a large pocket.

600 Hologons made ? Thet did not induce me to keep it. It was quite slow and not all that sharp, so since I at one stage hoarded Alpas, I swapped it for a suitably large sum plus a very rare Alpa, (6 of that partucular variant ever made).

p.

zuiko85
12-22-2016, 17:57
No. Never have. At first I thought this made me useless to the Leica company but then I thought 'no, the person I buy from may then have partial funds to get something new'. There has to be a healthy used market to free up money for some folks who buy new stuff.

E.M
12-23-2016, 13:09
I bought everything new , 3 M6 ttl ( chrome , black chrome , millennium ) ; also a 50 cron and 35 lux asph . Still want a 28 cron and then I'm done .

ellisson
12-23-2016, 15:07
Yes, but not at the list price. Three or so years after the M240 introduced, I purchased an M-P 240 from a Leica certified vendor at significant discount with full warranty from Leica. Packaged and sealed just as new. And with the $750 rebate program it was a better deal than most used samples I saw after a year of watching ebay. The soon-to-be introduced new M model was likely a factor. But buying when a Leica camera was first introduced - I've never done that.

Doug
12-23-2016, 18:40
While most of my Leica gear was bought either used or store-demo/unboxed, I did just get a new M-D typ 262, and so far I'm delighted with it.

Early this year, after PopFlash sold several lenses for me on consignment, including the 2.8/21 Elmarit ASPH and 4.5/21 C-Biogon ZM, they sold me a new/demo 3.4/21 Super-Elmar-M while Leica had 12% off special pricing.

SausalitoDog
12-25-2016, 23:25
yes, I bought a new Leica 28mm for use on fuji xp1...used it twice and it sits on shelf...I have to get organized :-)

1fpm
01-20-2017, 09:10
I just ordered the M10 and 50 Summicron (6 Bit). I am just hoping I am still married next month. ;-)

Phil_F_NM
01-20-2017, 11:36
Bought a new M9 back in 2010. Worst photography mistake I've ever made. Bad quality, bad customer service (probably because I don't spend enough money on new Leica as working photographers can't afford such gear all the time.)
Never again will I buy new Leica anything.

Phil Forrest

Rangefinder M-P
01-23-2017, 16:31
I bought a new M-P week before last along with three lenses and assorted "stuff," i.e., filters, EVF2, flash, etc. So far, I couldn't be happier with my purchase. That is, of course, unless my wife finds out about it.

Mike

MIkhail
02-07-2017, 11:12
I am reading some answers and thinking: there are people who know how to live...
:-)

ayewing
02-14-2017, 04:14
I bought my first Leica in the 1970s - a second hand M2 which I happily used for over 30 years. My first new Leica was a M9 which I did not like nearly as much as the old M2. I sold the M9 and bought a new M240 which I like much more than the M9. I am not tempted by the new M10. I have a mixture of new and old lenses. Like many others as a young man I could never afford new Leica equipment but now that my family has grown up and are self sufficient I have been able to indulge myself with new Leica cameras and lenses.

AZPhotog
02-14-2017, 06:50
In October 2013 I obtained via ebay from Germany a SUMMICRON 90mm f2 brand new, unused "Mint in the box" lens. It is from 1964, first version, and I paid just over $1100 US for it. It had apparently been stored away post-purchase.

These 90mm f2's were all Canadian made, by the way.

When I received it, it did indeed appear to have never been used, not any discernible wear markings on the mount area. It did have a loose filter ring with no slots for a spanner wrench. It was sent off to Sherry Krauter who was quite impressed with it. I did not learn how she tightened the ring, but secure it now is.

Moogie77
04-27-2017, 09:49
I recently couldn't resist to get the 35 cron asph new. But the run-out model on a decent price for a new Leica lens.
I wanted one so much and the used ones haven't been much cheaper, so I decided to get a new one.
Still having the first roll of TMax 400 in the M6 and excitingly waiting for the results to come up by the weekend.
All other Leica equipment bought used.

robert blu
04-28-2017, 01:44
I have to say that when I visited the Leica Store in Wetzlar the interest was for a refurbished M9/262...but than after having seen and tried the M10 in my hands...I succumbed and with complicity of my wife (http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=160722) I bought one...absolutely new of course :)
robert

raid
04-28-2017, 05:45
I now feel that I am "ready" to buy one day the latest Leica M model. There is a time for everything.

mcfingon
04-28-2017, 06:12
Yes, just yesterday I got an Elmar-M 24/3.8 for travel photo taking.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/51008/U51008I1493384927.SEQ.0.jpg

Mute-on
04-29-2017, 02:20
Bought a new 28 Elmarit ASPH II earlier this month for a trip to Japan. It worked wonderfully with my 0.58 MP, also purchased new (about 12 years ago ...) :)

mkorabo
04-29-2017, 03:31
Last week i was offered a very good deal on a brand new M240, i still have my name on the M10 waiting list and i am not sure what i will do when the call comes. So far the 240 has been outstanding.

mdarnton
04-29-2017, 12:05
I've had quite a lot of Leica gear over the years, a iiia, two iiifs, an M2, two M3s, two M4s and an M4-2, plus lots of lenses for them . Not a single piece--not a lens cap, even--did I ever buy new. For Leica film equipment I could never see a reason--it doesn't age poorly and seems to last forever, so I'd prefer to let the original purchaser take the depreciation hit. Once in a while I get the yen for a digital M, and if I do that, I'll probably buy a new one to maximize the time that it's relevant. And it does seem that recently digital changes are smaller and less fatal, so I might actually get a good decade or more out of a recent digital purchase.

But my M4s are now over 45 years old, and the IIIa is now about 80, but neither has obsolescence in sight, so digital doesn't look like a wise purchase, really.

MIkhail
04-29-2017, 17:00
God, no. Never. I am mere engineer at Ford motor co. And my wife is mere CPA accountant. We could never afford this dentist's toys new. :-)

Chris101
04-30-2017, 23:04
New? Wow - oh God no!

I just recently brought myself to buy a Leica lens at all, along with a clean M4-P and matching 50 'cron from the same factory in Midland, Canada from about the same time of manufacture. I think the camera and lens may have known each other previously.

Do I want to buy new? Yup. I hear the new aspheric 35 'cron is the bees knees. And I have always found beauty and safety at f/2 or more. With faster lenses it is difficult for me to nail the thin plane of sharpness, by eye.

But the price tag has alienated me a smidge.

victoriapio
05-08-2017, 08:05
Yes purchased an M9 new back in 2009. It is to date the ONLY new piece of Leica gear I have ever purchased. Now that it is in for repair of the sensor, I am looking for a used 262.

LightBender
05-17-2017, 20:20
I love all of the Leica gear I've bought. None has been perfect, but what in life is. So, moving on here is the new stuff, not listing the used stuff :)

M8
M9
M240
M10.

Elmar 90/4
Summicron 75
Summilux 50 FLE
Summicron 35
Summilux 35 FLE II
Summicron 28 I
Summicron 28 II
WATE

And, at least that many used lenses. Also, four film M and LTM cameras. Four used R lenses. And, several LTM lenses.

All of it is fantastic in its own way.

All of it, added up together, doesn't even come close to what friends have paid for their Harleys or their boats or their cars or, for sure, their RVs. I use my cameras every day and have since I was a kid. Some of the best ways I've spent my stupid money. Of course there is family and kids that have come first... but, as for stupid stuff, no regrets. :)

telenous
05-22-2017, 03:42
Bought new a 75/2 Asph., and two demo condition lenses (35/2 Asph., 50/1.4 Asph LHSA). But I haven't bought anything new since 2008 and if I do buy anything at all it will probably be used like most of the Leica stuff I 've ever bought.

.

jamesk8752
05-22-2017, 06:01
Almost all the Leica bodies in my considerable collection were bought used, but my M240 was the exception - I bought it new from PopPhoto several years ago. I also have a few new lenses, although again, most were used. The price of new Leica gear is just so eye-watering that it doesn't make sense for me to buy new.

Kent
05-22-2017, 07:42
So far, all my Leica cams and lenses were used but most of them "like new". ;)

The first Leica I bought new, was my D-Lux (109) which I bought some months ago.

Deardorff38
06-21-2017, 08:37
Ah, the good old days. My first M2 (university days) used at $175 (canadian). A couple of new M4s (chrome & black paint) for [email protected] Bought a new M6 titanium. The one I miss though is a black paint M2, bought on a whim (saw it in the window in Paris in the mid '90s) for $700.

Gregm61
06-21-2017, 20:35
Just yesterday, received a new 21mm f3.4 Super Elmar from B&H, to go with the M262 I purchased new in February, 2016. The other two lenses I'm using right now, 35mm f2 ASPH and 75mm f2 APO, purchased used, but almost in like new condition.

Down the road I'm hoping at some point to be able to upgrade the 35 Summicron with the 35mm f1.4 FLE, if I don't wind up getting the Zeiss 35/1.4 Distagon first.

Doug
06-22-2017, 01:20
Well, I have to admit to a brief GAS attack that brought me a new 24mm Summilux. It's a honey of a lens, and while useful on the full-frame M, will also be a good match for the M8 (which has framelines for 24), where it's effectively a 32mm Summilux!

james.liam
08-08-2017, 19:03
Does a QM2 count as 'new'? If so, I've had a few. Why pay full tariff when a QM2 gives you exactly the same, with evanescent cosmetic flaws.

ECohen
08-12-2017, 18:01
Oh gosh YES! I love new cameras ......and new cars.
New... X2, M240, 35cron, 50cron, 21CV
Used .....28elmarit, 90elmarit
Thinking about a Noctilux used, unless Leica has another 15%off sale :-) .......and maybe a New Subaru in a few years


I buy used to fill in..... but man o man NEW CAMERAS ARE GREAT!

jazzwave
08-20-2017, 22:19
After 6 happy years use M8(black) and Voigtlander 35/1.4, I decided to upgrade to M10 (silver) and Summicron 35/2 ASPH.

I hope this new gear will keep me more happy...

Note:
My workhorse M4-P always make me smile..long live analog M :)


~ron~

airfrogusmc
08-21-2017, 08:19
Picked up an M 10 about a month ago.

Bill Blackwell
08-26-2017, 19:38
I've had no problems buying either new or used Leica bodies (excepting digital, which I've always purchased new) and lenses.

Purchased new over the years:
MP
MP Hammertone
M8
M8-2
M9
M-P 240
M10-P Safari
28mm Summicron
35mm LHSA Asph Summicron
50mm LHSA Asph Summilux
75mm Summicron
90mm Elmarit-M
And about a dozen other Leica lenses

jamesbf
10-03-2017, 20:49
After 6 happy years use M8(black) and Voigtlander 35/1.4, I decided to upgrade to M10 (silver) and Summicron 35/2 ASPH.

I hope this new gear will keep me more happy...

Note:
My workhorse M4-P always make me smile..long live analog M :)


~ron~

Nice man! I had the same combo but upgraded to the M240 a couple years after its release (Along with a 35mm Summicron) and will likely upgrade to the M10 in a couple more years. Im still loving the M240 :)

rhl-oregon
10-03-2017, 21:11
M-D 262.
To celebrate retirement; to celebrate sensible retirement investment returns; to experience something as pure as shooting Acros or TMax or Ektar in my M5 (but being able to stick the SD card in the iMac immediately afterward or weeks later, as with film).
(I can bring along the Leica T if I want to chimp.)

Doug
10-04-2017, 00:18
Congratulations Robert on the M-D, a most unusual digital camera! I expect you've noticed a few of us here who have one... :)

Michael Markey
10-04-2017, 00:25
Congratulations Robert ....

airfrogusmc
10-04-2017, 10:01
Yeah a big CONGRATS Robert on the camera and retirement. It is a GREAT camera and it is in very capable hands.

Now lets see some work now that you have some time. .

Mudman
10-04-2017, 11:34
My M8 in 2013 was factory refurbished. Otherwise everything used.

vladimir
10-29-2017, 03:20
Purchased Leica SL 5 weeks ago and loving it.

music_healing
10-29-2017, 06:34
New : Summilux 28mm

all other is second hand from fellow photographer

Sincerely
William Jusuf

robert blu
10-29-2017, 14:00
M-D 262.
To celebrate retirement; to celebrate sensible retirement investment returns; to experience something as pure as shooting Acros or TMax or Ektar in my M5 (but being able to stick the SD card in the iMac immediately afterward or weeks later, as with film).
(I can bring along the Leica T if I want to chimp.)

Congrats! For sure you'll be happy with this camera.
robert

56 DIN
10-29-2017, 16:09
M 10 (my first rangefinder ever) in sept 17

krötenblender
10-29-2017, 16:44
Several times, lenses and bodies. Someone has to, otherwise nobody could buy them used...
Latest now the M10. Finally a digital M that doesn't feel like a brick in an oversized package.

Tom Diaz
10-29-2017, 18:34
M6 in 2003 with a trio of lenses. That was a great deal for kit.

M8 when they came out, whenever that was. I got some great stuff with it, but it still drove me crazy with those stupid UV/IR filters, because I'd be swapping lenses back and forth with the M6.

M9 replaced the M8. What a relief to get rid of the stupid filters and have full frame!

M240 replaced the M9. At about this time I had been pretty much forced out of shooting film. I felt that the disappearance of Kodak and disappearance of reasonable commercial processing, it was just too ridiculous. So I sold the M6.

These days I shoot only digital, with the M240 sharing space with other brands. I am fortunate to have a Ricoh GXR-M, which is really nice with Leica lenses and has some nice user interface.

I have to say, that here in the 21st century, I get annoyed with manual focusing. My non-Leica equipment can't match the Leica stuff for quality, but I use the Leica stuff less than I would if it had automatic focusing.

TD

giganova
11-10-2017, 16:31
My dream is to get a new M-A at some point. Two weeks ago I already played around with one in the Leica store in Munich. But with so many fabulous M4 out there, its hard to justify the 4x higher costs.

d_c
03-13-2018, 08:50
The closest for me was my M6 which was an ex-shop demo, but everything else (6 bodies + 14 lenses) has been purchased used.

DanielDuarte
04-29-2018, 12:58
About to buy a new MP before the May 1st price hike. Oh well, just jump in.

Gregm61
05-04-2018, 20:42
Yes, just yesterday I got an Elmar-M 24/3.8 for travel photo taking.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/51008/U51008I1493384927.SEQ.0.jpg

Superlative lens. Quite possibly the sharpest lens I own and a perfect landscape/travel focal length. When I'm using my non-Leica the normal zoom starts at a 24mm equivalent focal length and a large % of the images I capture with it are shot at 24mm.

24mm f3.8 Elmar on my M262 this past weekend..

https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Leica-M262-Images/i-Fnh8chC/0/b7a02000/XL/L1030657-XL.jpg (https://gmchappell.smugmug.com/Other/Leica-M262-Images/i-Fnh8chC/A)

https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Leica-M262-Images/i-hqdRnXg/0/564f6dc5/XL/L1030658-XL.jpg (https://gmchappell.smugmug.com/Other/Leica-M262-Images/i-hqdRnXg/A)

https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Leica-M262-Images/i-St9R6Mf/0/5708fd6a/XL/L1030661-XL.jpg (https://gmchappell.smugmug.com/Other/Leica-M262-Images/i-St9R6Mf/A)

https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Leica-M262-Images/i-4bPJdHx/0/56b99485/XL/L1030665-XL.jpg (https://gmchappell.smugmug.com/Other/Leica-M262-Images/i-4bPJdHx/A)

https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Leica-M262-Images/i-Qpgxpw4/0/4cc3ce32/XL/L1030716-XL.jpg (https://gmchappell.smugmug.com/Other/Leica-M262-Images/i-Qpgxpw4/A)

Bike Tourist
05-29-2018, 09:23
Well, in the old days I bought a new M3 in Germany in 1959. In the 90s I bought a new M6. Not so much these days since the advent of digital, but that's about to change.


Coming this Friday, a new M (262) and 50mm Summarit. Yipee!

muser53
05-29-2018, 13:00
I just purchased my first new Leica camera ever. It just so happened it was the last Leica M7 blk body that B&H had in stock. Bonus....batteries were included :-)

davidnewtonguitars
08-15-2018, 07:46
I sold a nice guitar in June, and with a pocket full of cash, almost bought an MP, but was able to resist.
Does that count for anything? I didn't think so.

Rayt
10-01-2019, 03:35
I bought a 28mm Summilux for my M8. Now I have a fast 35/1.4 equivalent and will delay any digital upgrade for 5 years. Worth every penny. Here is a test shot in Tokyo where I used it for the first time.

At 1.4 iso1600 cropped a lot.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48826053237_e28a39644d_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2hoAhy6)test (https://flic.kr/p/2hoAhy6) by ray tai (https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/), on Flickr

Rayt
10-01-2019, 03:39
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48731342526_ffd86c0a98_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2hfdSmN)L9997778 (https://flic.kr/p/2hfdSmN) by ray tai (https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/), on Flickr

Pál_K
10-01-2019, 12:42
Bought new:
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Leica M6 and 50/2 Summicron in 1996
90/2.8 Elmarit-M, ~2004

Bought used:
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Leica M3 DS ST PV with 50/2 Summicron, ~1987
Leica M3 SS ST PV, 50/2 DR Summicron, ~1999
Leica M6 TTL ~2004

Leica III, 50/3.5 Elmar - nickel, 2017
Leica IIIf RD ST, 50/3.5 Elmar, 2018

35/2 Summicron M v4, 2018
135/4.5 Hektor, 2019

Also Leicaflex SL's and R8, each with lenses

Guth
10-01-2019, 18:30
Leica was offering a decent rebate program back in 2000. My M6 TTL, and a trio of Summicrons (35mm, 50mm, 90mm) were all bought new at the time. Back then I was still relatively young and was viewing it as a system for a lifetime. Were I to part with this gear I couldn't see myself repeating such purchases now given that so many things have changed since then including Leica's offerings, their prices, my priorities and certainly my age.

ZivcoPhoto
10-01-2019, 21:40
Well Dick Thornton, I guess at 70, I shouldn’t mind having just paid Leica over $1,700 to replace the sensor in my M9.

muser53
08-05-2020, 21:37
Bought the next to the last or last Leica M7 sold by B&H. I forget which.

f.hayek
08-06-2020, 06:14
Bought several new but never at the MSRP.
Several QM1 when Leica was doing so (cosmetic "defect" to the barrel) and several discounted but unused "demos"; ;).

raid
08-06-2020, 06:27
I bought a "new" M10 from a RFF member who bought it new last June and has not used the camera.

MISH
08-07-2020, 16:14
i think I payed more for my used M6 TTL than the new one I held at B&H when you could still get a new one. At the time I thought I would never be able to afford or justify such a extravagance............ I guess times have changed. Does that count?

Guth
08-08-2020, 00:05
i think I payed more for my used M6 TTL than the new one I held at B&H when you could still get a new one. At the time I thought I would never be able to afford or justify such a extravagance............ I guess times have changed. Does that count?

Truth is stranger than fiction, eh?

Bingley
08-15-2020, 23:24
I bought a new M-E type 240 last year. That’s the only new Leica product I’ve ever purchased.

Range-rover
08-16-2020, 03:47
Nope used is great enough for me, had the following (sold or traded top four)
IIIf
M3
M4
M6 (Sorry I sold This!)
M2

I have a M2 now my first Leica in 10 years used, but love it.

rhl-oregon
08-27-2020, 14:58
In a relatively brief time, I bought an MD-262 (2017), used it a great deal especially in an Italy project/portfolio (but largely for monochrome conversions); added an M-246 by trading away my M7 and GF670 in 2019; and this year horse-traded these and more for an M10 Monochrome.

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/gallery/45148/med_U45148I1598561393.SEQ.3.jpg

I’m retired, and life grows briefer by the day, not to say more perilous by simply breathing in the vicinity of healthy young viral vectors. I’m happy to have this tool that fits my way of seeing and developing at this age.

Leicas I bought used, starting in 2011 when I joined the RFF asylum:

M4
IIIc
M5
M7
M3

It’s like showing off campaign badges, I know. I enjoyed each one, and have shared a lot of works I made with them here and on LUF and Instagram. I even bought the M4 back from the widow of the talented photographer to whom I sold it after I became an M5 convert. When the M5 at last needed $600+ of Sherry Krauter’s attention, I gave it to an RFF friend who always wanted an M5 and was willing to pay for the Golden Touch rehab.

Still have my Hexar RF for the lenses on film, and my T for cropping the same lenses (and sharing the 020 Viso with the M10).

loquax ludens
08-27-2020, 19:25
I bought an MP a la carte in 2012.


__Your personalized Leica ŕ la carte
1.0 Type of camera LEICA MP
2.0 Color Silver chrome finish
3.0 Rewinding device as MP
4.0 Type of top cover Classic
5.0 Controls MP style silver chrome finish
6.0 Leather cladding as MP
7.0 Viewfinder magnification 0.85
8.0 Bright-line frame sets 0.85

PKR
08-27-2020, 19:30
2x M4, 28, 35, 50, 90 all bought new. All bought in the US except for the 35 which was bought in Germany

These were purchased in the late 60s - early 70s

M2 bought used in the US in the mid 70s.

skucera
11-28-2020, 21:24
Well, I'm thinking about it, but the depreciation is daunting, as is the inevitable technical progress with the sensors. Still, I think about it almost every week. It would be nice to use my old lenses on a digital Leica.

Scott