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10-02-2012
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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Kodak T-max P3200
We wanted to update you on a change to our film portfolio, which we posted to the Kodak film site today. Due to low sales volume, Kodak is ending production of KODAK PROFESSIONAL T-MAX P3200 Film (TMZ). The demand for ultra-high speed B&W film has declined significantly, and it is no longer practical to coat such a small volume of product. This is the only change to the portfolio.
When we have a suggested replacement, we try to inform you of that as well. In this, case, the suggested replacement is KODAK PROFESSIONAL T-MAX 400 Film (TMY-2). The latitude of TMY-2 allows it to handle one stop of underexposure (EI 800) without being pushed. In low light situations, TMY-2 delivers very good results when exposed at EI 1600 with increased development time.
You can find more information here about the remaining portfolio, as well as information on sheet films available through special order at K. B. Canham Cameras, Inc. http://www.kodak.com/global/en/profe...?pq-path=13319
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10-02-2012
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gavinlg
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Yep, just saw this on my facebook page. tmax 3200 is gone. Such a shame...
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10-02-2012
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jpfisher
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Really love the look of this film. I don't currently develop at home, although I guess that's in my future if I want to shoot film long term... any way to get a similar look out of Tri-X or HP5 via push processing?
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10-02-2012
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Brian Legge
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Sad. I was my go-to fast film. I didn't shoot much due to the price but I loved the results.
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10-02-2012
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unixrevolution
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Sad to see it go. It was pretty good, the couple times I tried it. But honestly...I usually end up pushing Tri-x anyway.
If it'd been available in 120, that's another story. I use quite a bit of the 120 Ilford Delta 3200, which is a good fast film in its own right.
Thank you for notifying us!
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10-02-2012
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dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
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Awwwwwwwwww jeez.. I just saw this via twitter - so much for being committed - then again, I'm probably one of the few people that love Tmax 3200 @ 1600 - time to stock up AGAIN . . .
Sad to see it go..
Dave
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10-02-2012
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maddoc
... likes film.
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The Problem with TMZ is that the freezer is no solution, when expired it is expired and the base fog level raises quickly after that date. Sad to see the film being discontinued, though ...
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10-02-2012
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venchka
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Thank goodness a friend gave me about 2 dozen rolls not too long ago. I need to go out into the night.
WHOA! 120 Portra 800 is alive and well. I thought it was dead. I will go forth into the night. Hooray!
Wayne
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10-02-2012
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Faintandfuzzy
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I just stopped buying Kodak film and decided to only use Ilford.
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10-02-2012
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Chriscrawfordphoto
Real Men Shoot Film.
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I did a lot of my work on Tmax 3200 over the years, it was a groundbreaking film when it came out 20 years ago. I'm using Ilford's Delta 3200 now, and hopefully they'll make it a long time.
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10-02-2012
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Peter^
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from the last roll of P3200 I used. I still have about five rolls. And then, alas, adieu.
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10-02-2012
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bugmenot
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Such a shame. At this rate, if Kodak hasn't sold its film business to some other company,
we may only end up having T-Max 100/400, Tri-X 320/400, and Portra 160/400 left in 135, 120, 220, and 4x5 ...
and even the last of those two film formats would be in doubt.
And this is just my prediction for what remains by the first half of 2013 ... if anything.
Edit: On second thought, according to Kodak Film Catalog of 2012, that IS basically all that's left ... |
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10-02-2012
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Terry Christian
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Here's a shot I took a couple months ago with some very much expired (10-15 years) P3200, shot at box speed inside a dark barn in Wisconsin. Just to the right of the small Canadian flag you can barely see a window. From that and other shots, I get the impression that P3200 doesn't fare well in flat light, whether shadows or well-lit scenes, but prefers contrasty light: highlights transitioning quickly to darkness. I processed this roll in stock XTOL, just to eke out as much speed as I could.
2012-08-20C-013 by Terry Christian Photo, on Flickr |
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10-02-2012
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Pablito
coco frío
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maddoc
The Problem with TMZ is that the freezer is no solution, when expired it is expired and the base fog level raises quickly after that date. Sad to see the film being discontinued, though ...
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Yes, this is quite true.
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10-02-2012
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Pablito
coco frío
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Christian
Here's a shot I took a couple months ago with some very much expired (10-15 years) P3200, shot at box speed inside a dark barn in Wisconsin. Just to the right of the small Canadian flag you can barely see a window. From that and other shots, I get the impression that P3200 doesn't fare well in flat light, whether shadows or well-lit scenes, but prefers contrasty light: highlights transitioning quickly to darkness. I processed this roll in stock XTOL, just to eke out as much speed as I could.
2012-08-20C-013 by Terry Christian Photo, on Flickr |
When the film is fresh it doesn't look anything at all like that.
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10-02-2012
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dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
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From earlier this year. . . Paris. . Brasserie Wepler
Dave |
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10-02-2012
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kiemchacsu
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10-02-2012
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Pablito
coco frío
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dcsang
From earlier this year. . . Paris. . Brasserie Wepler
Dave |
yes, that is the tmz look.
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10-02-2012
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bwcolor
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High ISO is pretty much digital for me. I suspect that this is true for many.
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10-02-2012
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rhl-oregon
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Like Chris, it's Delta 3200 for me. Especially in 120, but in general Ilford is the main stock in the 2 good photo stores in Eugene. So I'm a Delta except for Fuji color.
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10-03-2012
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Roger Hicks
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It was so successful when it came out that Ilford decided to make something similar, despite having ruled it out earlier -- and then Ilford did it better. Yes, grainier, but also faster (which is why it was/is grainier) and as far as most were concerned, with better tonality. The disappearance of TMZ is a symptom of the decline of film, not the decline of Kodak: there just wasn't enough demand for another, slightly inferior, 'push' film. Or indeed for another even slower film, barely faster than HP5 Plus, Neopan 1600.
Yes, it's sad, but it's the usual question: when did YOU last buy a roll of TMZ?
Cheers,
R.
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10-03-2012
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maddoc
... likes film.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger Hicks
Yes, it's sad, but it's the usual question: when did YOU last buy a roll of TMZ?
Cheers,
R.
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The usual question for me is when was the last time I WOULD have been able to buy this film? From memory, some time in 2008 ...
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10-03-2012
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funkydog
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Ships that pass in the night. Never heard of P3200 till now while Ilford Delta 3200 is easily available in stores. I used to shoot Kodak color stuff almost exclusively until one by one, their films got discontinued. I got tired of starting at the bottom of the learning curve for their substitute only to see that film in turn, get discontinued.
Kodak isnt doing much to inspire confidence that their remaining still photography film will still be around and the siege mentality of leasing refrigerated warehouses to hoard film doesn't work for some people.
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10-03-2012
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johnkunstadter
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger Hicks
It was so successful when it came out that Ilford decided to make something similar, despite having ruled it out earlier -- and then Ilford did it better. Yes, grainier, but also faster (which is why it was/is grainier) and as far as most were concerned, with better tonality. The disappearance of TMZ is a symptom of the decline of film, not the decline of Kodak: there just wasn't enough demand for another, slightly inferior, 'push' film. Or indeed for another even slower film, barely faster than HP5 Plus, Neopan 1600.
Yes, it's sad, but it's the usual question: when did YOU last buy a roll of TMZ?
Cheers,
R.
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Steadily, Roger, including three batches in 2012.
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10-03-2012
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lynnb
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Mike Johnston has an item about this today, along with a very nice sample image. |
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