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Old 10-06-2009   #41
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Hi Trius,

I posted before I saw your comment on the OM4 vs OM4T/i. It's like I said, I've still got a lot to learn. I'm lucky there are so many knowledgeable OM people here.

And Dan,

The three primes you mentioned are what I'm starting out with. And I'm grateful for the bright viewfinder as well. I should have listened to my mother when she told me I'd ruin my eyes reading so much in dim light!

Take care guys and thanks for the info.

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Here is a shot with 50mm/1.4
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Skip the OM-3 and get an OM-4 or 4Ti. The OM-3 is disgustingly overpriced due to collectors hording them. The OM-4 and 4Ti do everything the 3 does, plus autoexposure if you want it. Even if you never use auto, you can leave the 4 in manual mode and it is a far less costly camera than an OM-3.
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135/{2.8,3.5} ...
Hmm... I'm pretty sure this is not the first time we are considering a common lens

Which one would you pick if you can only get one, the f/3.5 or 2.8? and why.
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Hmm... I'm pretty sure this is not the first time we are considering a common lens

Which one would you pick if you can only get one, the f/3.5 or 2.8? and why.
I have the 3.5 and it is TINY, sharp, and cheap. The 2.8 is bigger and costs a lot more for a half-stop of speed. I have not shot one so I do not know if the image quality is better or worse, but the 3.5 is good.
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OK, you guys got me. What's a good starter body? Black preferably. Meter and hot shoe optional. My dads got an old OM2 I could borrow think it just needs a battery to function, but would want my own body. He's got a 50 1.4 too I'd like to play with.
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The OM1n.

Excellent ergonomics, very bright lifesize-magnification viewfinder, simple (purely mechanical save for the meter), elegant: the absolute classic.

Moreover despite all this (and more) OM1n bodies are amazingly plentiful and cheap.

The proper mercury battery for the meter is no longer obtainable, but a variety of suitable alternatives are available for modest cost (e.g. the CRISCAM adapter, weincells, or a simple "repair" job to modify the body for modern batteries).

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OK, you guys got me. What's a good starter body? Black preferably. Meter and hot shoe optional. My dads got an old OM2 I could borrow think it just needs a battery to function, but would want my own body. He's got a 50 1.4 too I'd like to play with.
+1 for OM-1n. I have two and going for another one or two. It has everything you need, still serviceable, perfect mechanical beauty in a tiny tiny package.

And 50/1.4 is a very nice lens to start off. Very dreamy, superb character, a bit longer than 1.8 but still very compact. (1.8 and 1.4 both are good lenses.) The flower shot in the previous page is with 50/1.4 silver nose.
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I just bought an OM collection, mostly lenses, some new, some very lightly used. Some of these were used in Olympus VIP loaner program, some have small ID numbers etched into lens hood or filter ring. 350 2.8, 180 f2, 180 2.8, 24mm shift, 35-80 f2.8, 35-70 (om-2000 version), 70-210mm (cosina), 24 f2, 28 f2, 80mm f4 auto macro etc. ...
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Hmm... I'm pretty sure this is not the first time we are considering a common lens

Which one would you pick if you can only get one, the f/3.5 or 2.8? and why.
I had both and kept the 2.8. Really great for portraits. I did once a 1:1 comparison against the 135/2.8 Elmarit, and the signature is practically identical.

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Although the 1N was the first OM I bought, I have found over nearly 30 years of using the system that the OM-2N is the most versatile. It can do everything the 1N (except work without batteries) does plus has the choice of aperture-priority auto exposure AND a great TTL flash system. I think the 2N is your best choice for a first OM.
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Hmm... I'm pretty sure this is not the first time we are considering a common lens

Which one would you pick if you can only get one, the f/3.5 or 2.8? and why.


Will, I only have the 3.5 and agree with everything Chris says, but sometimes I could do with a little more aperture.

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OK, you guys got me. What's a good starter body? Black preferably. Meter and hot shoe optional. My dads got an old OM2 I could borrow think it just needs a battery to function, but would want my own body. He's got a 50 1.4 too I'd like to play with.


Nightfly, never had one myself but I reckon the OM1 would be your best bet for a starter.

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Ok. This whole love of Zuiko glass and OM bodies simply has to stop...its getting out of hand! I've only just got into using my new ( to me ) OM4Ti and my OM2SP (which I've had for a bit longer) and now everyone is buying the lenses I want right from under my nose

Having said that I did manage to snaffle a 24mm f2.8 and a 135mm f2.8 yesterday from ebay. Giving me a nice kit including a 35mm f2.8 and the MIJ 50mm f1.8.
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Another long time (about 5 years) Zuikoholic here.

I started with OM-2000, then about 3 years ago jumped directly after a OM-4Ti (my first ever purchase on ebay), then the number just somehow grew...

The brassy OM-1n had a difficult disease, but now works just fine.

Here's a bit outdated family portrait:


Outdated, because I've already sold the 2SP - it kept eating the batteries.

Just a few weeks ago I bought my second 85/2 (the first was a dog) for about 80 GBP and I find it a great 2 lens kit with 35/2.8. If I want 3 lens kit, I take 28, 50 and 100. My current favorite body is the brassed 4. It ages much nicer than the 4Ti...

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Anyone had, or got, the 135 2.8?

I bought it because I used to like that length as a kid with my dad's old Minolta SRT-101. No idea how it will stack up but it was a good price....and I felt I needed it
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Just a few weeks ago I bought my second 85/2 (the first was a dog) for about 80 GBP and I find it a great 2 lens kit with 35/2.8. If I want 3 lens kit, I take 28, 50 and 100. My current favorite body is the brassed 4. It ages much nicer than the 4Ti...

Maitani-san is dead, long live the OM system!
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Old 10-07-2009   #58
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Love that seascape! Excellent!

Coelacanth, that's a good one too. I majored in horticulture and landscape design. Taking photos of plant materials and project sites was one of the major ways I got involved with photography.
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Isn't it great the digital revolution - we can now pick up unwanted things that were rare and impossibly expensive in their heyday and for less than the cost of a plastic DSLR zoom

Found a mint black OM1n a few months ago (it's my first and only Olympus film SLR) then a 50mm f/1.2 to put on it :


This lens has the most amazing, never really sharp, glow when used full open: I need to use it more often.


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Beautiful shot. Which lens?

You can use Zuiko glass on a 5D with an adapter. Not a direct mount but people get nice results.
I used the 28/2.8 on this one. I think around f 5.6 or f8 but I can't remember too well now. I used Portra 800 and I think that film is what did it for this picture.
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OK, you guys got me. What's a good starter body?
Somewhere around here, in another thread, I believe John Hermanson says the OM-2N is is the most repairable due to parts availability.
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I rarely shoot color, but here is one with 50/1.4 wide open.
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One of my favorites ... the 180/2.8:


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That wide open color shot with the 1.4 is beautiful! OM-1, 1N , 2, 2N all very serviceable. I have meters, tons of misc. small parts, top covers, curtains, circuit boards. John
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Another wide Zuiko on CraigsList: Olympus OM Zuiko 21mm f/3.5 Mimt+ - $750 (GTA)

http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/pho/1411241562.html

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ferider,

Good dog! Ur, I mean good shot. Is that a wolf or a pet? Or both? Either way, it's beautiful. Love the colors, the sharply focused eyes, and the depth of field just melting away from there on back.

Love photography and OM. Thanks.

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You gotta love these OM threads ... one person asks a simple OM question and the festival of Maitani starts in ernest!

By the way ... is the candlle light vigil at Maitani's grave site for the first anniverasry of his death still on track for next year?
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This one is with OM-1 but I forgot the lens, possibly Zuiko 85/2

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I have the 3.5 and it is TINY, sharp, and cheap. The 2.8 is bigger and costs a lot more for a half-stop of speed. I have not shot one so I do not know if the image quality is better or worse, but the 3.5 is good.
Chris, I have my eyes on the 3.5 also because it follows the tiny lens zuiko tradition, but I somehow always manage to either outbid on ebay or too cheap to buy outright.

This is ironic because my eyes see things with 135mm, and I have a 135mm for Nikon and Contax, but not in my OM kit
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I had both and kept the 2.8. Really great for portraits. I did once a 1:1 comparison against the 135/2.8 Elmarit, and the signature is practically identical.

Cheers,

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Why you certainly are not helping my 135mm zuiko GAS.
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Great image, shadowfox. Here is another "modern japanesey" stuff from a Kissaten in SF. It's also from 85/2 (version 2).

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Which 28mm was this? the f2.8 or f3.5 variant?
The 2.8 version.
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Why you certainly are not helping my 135mm zuiko GAS.
I'm the wrong person to ask for help wrt GAS, Will

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Good dog! Ur, I mean good shot. Is that a wolf or a pet? Or both? Either way, it's beautiful. Love the colors, the sharply focused eyes, and the depth of field just melting away from there on back.

Greg
Thanks, Greg. It's a wolf in the Californian Wolf center, where (Mexican and Alascan) Wolves are bread for re-population across the US.

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Shadowfox,

Very, very nice. Sharp, with gorgeous texture and color. And I love how the out of focus areas are rendered. Looks like a Japanese tea ceremony.

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Another great one! I see a theme here.

I'll take a photo of our tea set this weekend. I have to cook for the in-laws tonight.

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50/1.4 got here, two 28's on the way!
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50/1.4 got here, two 28's on the way!

My 50/1.4 arrived today from KEH, like new in the box. And they really meant it! In a plastic bag inside the styrofoam insert, original box, instruction sheet and all. Since my OM1 looks like new I figured I may as well go for it.

I had all but given up on a 28/2 and decided to get a 2.8. Ordered one EX grade from KEH on Monday for around $100. It should be here in a day or two, maybe tomorrow.

As fate would have it, I got an e-mail from John, the OM guru, the very next day. He found a 28/2 in great shape. I put my m-mount 40/2 Rokkor in the classifieds last night and had the money in my Paypal account before bedtime. Now I'll have two 28's! What a wonderful dilemma! You may see a 28/2.8 in the classifieds in a week or two, or maybe I'll just skip lunch for a few months and keep them both!

Still, I hate to see the Rokkor go. I was going to keep it even though I sold the R3A a couple of months ago. I know I'll eventually have another RF, but I think I'm going to be happy with the OM's from now on anyway whether I get another RF or not.

I'm actually going to post some pics soon. This weekend I'll upload to a new Flickr account. I closed my old one three years ago after doing a big photography job. The client downloaded everything and never paid me! I've only done about a dozen paying gigs and that was my very first. Now I'm only doing it for my pleasure, but that should be another thread. I'll post that one soon. Got to get rid of the in-laws first!

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BTW, the 28/2.8 and 28/3.5 are almost identical in size, if memory serves. I had one of each, did some quick and informatl tests, and couldn't discern any advantage to the 3.5, so kept the 2.8 even though it was in uglier cosmetic condition.
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Should I be looking at this in a particular context?
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First shot from the OM2, 50/1.8

Not my best photo ever, but it demonstrates that everything works properly. Used Kodak Portra VC 400

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