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Old 08-08-2012   #26
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BTW, Joe, I do have a Canadian M3 - they do exist. But I'll keep that one

How about a Canon P ?
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Really, to me it sounds like you shouldn't buy any more cameras "for lazy days" as you put it. When you got a lazy day you got to rough it out man and still go for it. Lazying it out ain't going to do you any good but put a hole in your wallet.

But to answer your question; M4-P is my favorite mechanical M. M6 being my favorite with light-meter (haven't tested M7, way too expensive just for A-Priority)
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What's not to like?



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Old 08-08-2012   #29
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What's not to like?

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Dear Wayne,

Size. Weight. Looks. Mechanical complication. Inability to accept several lenses. And -- given the thread title --- an absolute break with tradition.

What's to like?

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What about a Canadian-made M3? I have one and I don't mind at all that it wasn't made in Wetzlar.
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so many opinions!
very cool and thanks to all.

i think i would rule out the cl and the m5...too controversial for a shy guy like me...
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To counter-balance Thomas (I have 2 M4-P), a picture of my favorite Canadian



With period-correct lens, too
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lovely machines gents!

the m4-p would be nice to use my 75 on and have fl for it.
40/75 combo...nice!
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I find an M3 + 50mm simply heaven, for me. The other M's just give me more flexibility with additional framelines, with perfection being an M3 + 50mm, and M6 for 35mm and everything else. Seems like something with framelines for your existing lenses would suit you best. M4-P always seemed a fine camera to me, and if it has the framelines you need, then go for it.
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so many opinions!
very cool and thanks to all.

i think i would rule out the cl and the m5...too controversial for a shy guy like me...
That would be your loss.
Those of us who use them know better.

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Ps: Nobody has mentioned the obvious pinacle of tradition: M4.
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I've only just discovered this thread and I'm stunned!

Good decision to have the occasional dally with film IMO Joe ... though personally I wouldn't be going past an M6 as I like an in camera meter.
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An M2 with a CV Meter ll for me. Plus col. Summicron.
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I've only just discovered this thread and I'm stunned!

Good decision to have the occasional dally with film IMO Joe ... though personally I wouldn't be going past an M6 as I like an in camera meter.
can't afford an m6...plus i'm pretty good at reading the light values...
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can't afford an m6...plus i'm pretty good at reading the light values...

So am I but sometimes it really matters to get it right.

I'm actually tentatively thinking about a metered M for a job I have coming up in a month or two ... kind of wish I hadn't sold my Ikon now!
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I think a traditional M means one made in the old traditional way: each technician sits at a bench and hand fits each part, working with a file and a tiny hammer (I guess it's tiny). So that would mean an M2, M3, or M4. Maybe an M5, if a built-in meter can be considered traditional. At least, it should be one made before they started leaving parts out and putting plastic in. OK, I shoot mainly with M6, M7, MP these days . . . I just don't think they are very traditional.
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i'm not religious about it...the traditional part...the price is the key factor for me...so i'm thinking an ugly m2 or m4-p or thereabouts...
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Nothing wrong with an ugly M2. Mine has been through a war and looks it.

I like it like that. No worrying about scratching it and babying it.

I'm starting to prefer 'ugly' gear.
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M4-2 / M4-P ... maybe the best value for the CAD... I have and like both.
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My Skopar 50/2.5 rocks on an M4-2, which also has that Canadian vibe. But then it rocks on an M2, too.

Edit: Of course, having said all that, and knowing how you love the Rollei 40 Sonnar, if I were you I'd buy an M3 and never look back.
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Hi,
Since you want to use your 40 mm Sonnar I suggest a Leica CL or a Minolta CLE.
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