Leica X2 Revisited

[dave lackey]

Originally Posted by digitalintrigue

For $2.6k with an EVF, it's a no brainer for me: the X-Pro1...saves $300 and has a much better form factor with the EVF built in, and a lens that is two stops faster, and no AA filter.

Respectfully, please re-read this earlier post above:

Sure, I can buy a Toyota Camry for half a Mercedes Benz E-350. But, then , we already know that and I love Toyota products. I just don't drive Toyotas anymore, though.

We all have our buying preferences and there is nothing wrong with that.

I would appreciate keeping the discussion on the X2 in this thread and not about comparison with all the other cameras in the world as there are many threads already on RFF doing that and it won't add to the body of knowledge about the X2 at all. thanks,

[jsrockit]

Originally Posted by digitalintrigue

For $2.6k with an EVF, it's a no brainer for me: the X-Pro1...saves $300 and has a much better form factor with the EVF built in, and a lens that is two stops faster, and no AA filter. Not to mention amazing high ISO even at 25k...

But the cameras are in different classes. The X-Pro1 is M9 sized...the X2 is barnack sized.

[digitalintrigue]

It's barnack sized except when that honker of an EVF is added...

[digitalintrigue]

Sorry, Dave. The X2 is too little too late while also being too much $, IMHO.

[dave lackey]

Originally Posted by digitalintrigue

Sorry, Dave. The X2 is too little too late while also being too much $, IMHO.

Yes, Robert, I understand. Please respect my request to add to the body of knowledge of this new camera. A pissing match will only cause me to delete the thread because I am tired of all this.

Regardless of one's preferences, I am trying to bring in new information for those of us who actually love the little camera. The tethering information with an iPad is an example of that which has never been discussed on RFF before.

Thank you for your input, regardless.

[dave lackey]

Just playing around with the loaner last night...macro, or at least a couple of quick snaps close-up! Time to explore this new world as it has potential:

(Disclaimer: these are quick handheld snaps with no extra effort beyond handholding as an experiment. Please excuse the lack of artistic, technical and other things that these images do not portray...it was just a happy five minutes with a fun camera)

Original images, not cropped:






I would love to see some good closeups with the X2 when someone finally takes delivery.

[dave lackey]

Yes, there is definitely potential...and this sort of closeup photo does not cost a dime extra!

Another straight up, no PP 8x12 image:

[dave lackey]

I would like to see more photos of Barnack evolution with the X1 shown for comparisons...this is rather cool, IMO.

http://theonlinephotographer.typepad...fbe9970b-popup


Thank you, TOP....very cool.

[jsrockit]

Originally Posted by dave lackey

I would like to see more photos of Barnack evolution with the X1 shown for comparisons...this is rather cool, IMO.

http://theonlinephotographer.typepad...fbe9970b-popup

Very cool. Dave, why do you have to keep making me think about the X2?

[dave lackey]

Well, John, look at it this way...the photo from TOP shows the evolution of the Barnack camera (I can't even identify them all), so now the X series is paving the way for the digital evolution of the series.

What better way to start your own collection than with the X2 and working backwards, then forwards as the X3 comes out in a couple of years?

BTW, the X1 can be purchased at a very low price these days. Not quite in the IIIF range but getting there.

[jsrockit]

Originally Posted by dave lackey

BTW, the X1 can be purchased at a very low price these days. Not quite in the IIIF range but getting there.

I've thought about that... once I see a $1000 black X1, it may be hard to pass up.

[robert blu]

Originally Posted by dave lackey

I would like to see more photos of Barnack evolution with the X1 shown for comparisons...this is rather cool, IMO.

http://theonlinephotographer.typepad...fbe9970b-popup


Thank you, TOP....very cool.

Nice photo Dave, I just printed it and stick in front of me...you are becoming a dangerous man, my friend....

robert
PS: hmmm, x1 forever (unless...)

[Godfrey]

Originally Posted by digitalintrigue

For $2.6k with an EVF, it's a no brainer for me: the X-Pro1...saves $300 and has a much better form factor with the EVF built in, and a lens that is two stops faster, and no AA filter. Not to mention amazing high ISO even at 25k...

And a very tricky sensor to work with when it comes to raw conversion.
Sorry, the X-Pro1 leaves me cold.

The simplicity and excellent ergonomics of the X2 are what appeal to me most. I don't know that the EVF is all that important to me ... I'd probably fit an optical viewfinder most of the time. The Voigtländer 35mm viewfinder is much less expensive than the Leica. And if I wanted the EVF, the Olympus VF-2 is the same piece as the Leica unit and costs about half what the Leica does.

But that's why there are so many different cameras on the market. Each has its plusses and minuses, and appeals to various people for different reasons.

G

[Bike Tourist]

I am a happy X100 user with an XP1 on its way as I speak.

I have owned and loved countless Leicas over the past 50 years, but . . . To me, the X2 is too little, too late.

[robert blu]

Ciao Dave, this could be of interest :-)
robert

[dave lackey]

Folks, I really don't want to sound grumpy. Seriously, I don't.

Please see Post #30 above.

I have started this thread for a few interested parties to learn about a specific camera and discuss it based on a body of information that has not been done before on RFF due to everyone's sidetracking previous threads about why they don't like Leica or the X series or why they like Fuji or Canikon or whatever. That is NOT what this thread is all about.

If you want to do that, start your own thread.

[dave lackey]

Originally Posted by dave lackey

Yes, there is definitely potential...and this sort of closeup photo does not cost a dime extra!

Another straight up, no PP 8x12 image:

The JOY of playing around with photographic gear! Just having fun.

A miniature model truck next to a Pierre Cardin pen...not a crop, straight out of the X1.

What, no one curious as to how this was done? Not that it is anything other than a quick snapshot....but... I am trying to pique some interest in the capabilities of the X series that has not been discussed before. There are folks on the LUF that have done some really good macro work using the Kiwi extension tube, a setup adaptor and a closeup lens, all for very little money.

If anyone is interested, I can give you links to get those.

But, the images above were done with zero cash outlay and nothing attached to the X1.

[robert blu]

Originally Posted by dave lackey

...

But, the images above were done with zero cash outlay and nothing attached to the X1.

Of course I was curious but afraid to ask too private question! And now I'm even more curious....

robert

[dmc]

Originally Posted by dave lackey

What, no one curious as to how this was done?

Ummm, I guess not! Sorry.

[Godfrey]

Seems to be a waste of time to try to have a rational discussion of this camera on this forum. Too bad.

[Frank Version Two]

I'd consider an X2. It will be that much more attractive if someone confirms the Oly EVF fits safely!

[Godfrey]

Originally Posted by Frank Version Two

I'd consider an X2. It will be that much more attractive if someone confirms the Oly EVF fits safely!

Someone confirmed that it did on DPR recently.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=41516521

[Frank Version Two]

DPR - Always a trustworthy source!

[dave lackey]

The system bag....

It appears that the original Leica bag for the X1 is the same for the X2. Does anyone here use the bag with the X1? I am interested in the size of the bag and if it willl accommodate two X bodies(Thinking two used X1s...or one X1 and one X2 for a well-rounded kit)

To my eyes, looking at a few photos, it looks as if it will just fit, minus the battery charger but who wouldn't go out shooting without a handful of spare batteries anyway?

It also appears that it would accommodate a one camera one lens kit quite well, like the IIIF or even the M3.

[jsrockit]

When's the release date for the X2?