05-10-2012
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The price makes it jewelry.
It's the perfect lens for well-to-do doctors, dentists, successful(not incarcerated)hedge fund managers, and former Russian presidents.
I'm sure it has a very high level of aberration correction.
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Even "well to do" doctors don't buy this type of stuff. It's not like money just magically appears in your bank account.
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Even "well to do" doctors don't buy this type of stuff. It's not like money just magically appears in your bank account.
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Yeah, my Doctor has an M8 that he bought used because he couldn't spend the cash on the M9.  |
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05-10-2012
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Yeah wtf. In actual use, on a film camera or an m9, how much more can the actual medium resolve than a $800 zeiss 50mm planar, which is already one of the best 50mm's on the market.
This is just a whole pile of WTF.
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05-10-2012
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I just read today from NY times that 7% of american households have over $1M in cash. This lens is not even 1% of that, plus you don't actually spend $7K to use it. You only spend $7K - whatever depreciation there will be.
For those who think that this lens will not sell. Well, how about talk about that when it's actually on the market. For those who prefer the 50 lux or 50 noct, what if the buyer already owns all of those but still has so much cash lying around?
The more high end lenses Leica makes the better. Because if someone is not buying this, they would spend the money on another watch, or handbag, or tires for a car. I would rather have Leica make this money than Ferrari or Rolex or whatever.
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05-10-2012
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Hmmm. I didn't pay the $5K for a 35mm f1.4 ASPH-FLE when mine arrived.
I'm thinking no, to the 50/2 ASPH.
But, one never knows.
Let's see a few performance reviews.
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05-10-2012
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My cup runneth amok.
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I've never paid that much for a car.
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05-10-2012
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Apparently, Leica's pricing scheme is based on the supply-demand of the 35luxFLE.
They saw people were willing to pay $7k for the then-new 35luxFLE, so they said, why don't they charge that much to begin with.
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05-10-2012
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and by the way, the next new Leica lens will probably be an APO 35mm cron with a $9k price tag (if not more)
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05-10-2012
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Axiom, I think you are correct.
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05-10-2012
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hope this will not trigger another price hike of cron 50...they are ridiculously over priced already...
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05-10-2012
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Consider a used Alpa Kern Macro Switar 50/1.9 Apochromatic or an used Kinoptik 100/2 APO cost today, both is over 40 years old already and a brand new Kinoptik 100/2 APO cost at 5,978 euros before tax/VAT. I think the new 50 APO-Summicron ASPH price is right between among the top tier lens manufacturers. 
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05-10-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by axiom
Apparently, Leica's pricing scheme is based on the supply-demand of the 35luxFLE.
They saw people were willing to pay $7k for the then-new 35luxFLE, so they said, why don't they charge that much to begin with.
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The price point is exactly mid way between the lux and the noct. I think that's how they came up with the magical number. |
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05-10-2012
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hope this will not trigger another price hike of cron 50...they are ridiculously over priced already...
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Do you already own one? if not, go get one now. They are still cheap. |
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05-10-2012
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Do you already own one? if not, go get one now. They are still cheap.
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No, i'm getting myself lux 50 asph...might grab a cron 50 too but not sure which version ! |
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05-10-2012
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this is just going to increase the price of the used market too, hold onto your current 50's, they are about to go up in value
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05-10-2012
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The Pentax Super Takumar 55 is a lovely lens, screw mount. Mine came for free. This new 50 from Leica actually looks like an ugly duckling. But I like the creative points made above, especially the one about the Leica coffers getting some of what would otherwise go to Rolex and Louis Vuitton etc.
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Wow, that's a lot of $$$ for a slowish 50mm
At $7,195, besides taking amazingly sharp well corrected images, I'd expect the lens to do the grocery shopping, cook amazing baked dinners, AND wash the dishes afterwards! |
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Wow, that's a lot of $$$ for a slowish 50mm
At $7,195, besides taking amazingly sharp well corrected images, I'd expect the lens to do the grocery shopping, cook amazing baked dinners, AND wash the dishes afterwards! |
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forgive my ignorance, but what does the apo designation actually mean? what does it translate to in actual performance / rendering?
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05-10-2012
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I won't even pay for an old cron. :P
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forgive my ignorance, but what does the apo designation actually mean? what does it translate to in actual performance / rendering?
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APO= Apochromatic. A better correction of chromatic and spherical aberration than the much more common achromat lenses. The Apochromatic lens is usually of three elements and brings light of three different frequencies ( primary colors) to a common focus.
Any lens with "APO" designation is expensive except Sigma APO lenses. 
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forgive my ignorance, but what does the apo designation actually mean? what does it translate to in actual performance / rendering?
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it means that when you miss focus by even a hair it wont be as sharp as the normal cron.
or at least, that was how Zeiss explained the use of the 250 superapochromat as compared to the plain sonnar version (which cost a ton less).
I wonder what the price would be from Canon for an actual equivalent (ie not a 50/2 that was "almost as good" but one that actually was)? probably still north of 5k. |
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05-10-2012
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Jon, are you the smartest child of your father? |
I like to think so, Bob. But I know my siblings would disagree  |
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Now I wonder why the 75mm apo cron is so cheap? Shouldn't they also increase the price of that to at least $7,595 given that 75mm is not as common as 50mm?
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05-10-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EZfan
APO= Apochromatic. A better correction of chromatic and spherical aberration than the much more common achromat lenses. The Apochromatic lens is usually of three elements and brings light of three different frequencies ( primary colors) to a common focus.
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Ah. Doesnt sound like it would be as big a benefit to a film m user as a digital m user then. Thanks. |
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