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I have my pre-order in 58 17.06%
I'll wait to see a demo model or reviews, but I'm very interested 76 22.35%
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I'm like it, but its too expensive. Maybe used in the future 52 15.29%
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Fuji X Pro-1, Who's Buying?
Old 02-20-2012   #1
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Fuji X Pro-1, Who's Buying?

I am curious to see how interested people are and how it compares to interest in the OMD.

For me, I've pre-ordered and impatient.
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I will go with the XPro or OMD, haven't decided yet. I have sold my DSLR and lens kit though, so I am primed to get one of these two.
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I'm pretty well set on an XPro over the OM-D. I'm on a local waiting list, but I'll likely hold off until stock is steady and LR3 supports the camera.
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Old 02-20-2012   #4
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I have the X-Pro 1 on order but I am concerned about image sharpness. Any views on that? The images I have seen online look a little soft.
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I've only seen one set that looked soft, and that appears to be a combination of zero sharpness in the jpeg settings and a lot of blown focus.

The 35/1.4 appears to be tack sharp and the 18/2 sharper than I expected. The latter was what had me nervous (why buy into a new system without a usable wide angle for now?), but the 18mm looks good.
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I'm in. Very pleased with the X100.
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Old 02-20-2012   #7
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Pleased with X100.
Dismissed already the OM-D just looking at it. And wouldn't 4/3 after experiencing APS-C.
Only some major misconception of the aperture stop down mechanism and viewfinder brightness consequence and how that is handled would put me off. Hard to see them buggering up anything, actually. Won't bother with adapters: 28, 50, 90 are ideal for me. Might as well pre-order, but I'll just have a look and consult my advisers.
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Will wait to see how initial units test; also interested in the M-adapter. But if these things check out, I am in. Love the high ISO samples I have seen so far.

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Old 02-20-2012   #9
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i am very interested in the xpro but can't really afford it without selling my current kit...and i'm not sure about doing that.
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Old 02-20-2012   #10
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I got my preorder on Amazon, hoping it would arrive before I leave for vacation on Mar 23. I love my D700 and its high-ISO capabilities for travel, but I wouldn't mind a lighter package with similar high-ISO quality. And once the M-adaptor is available, I'm definitely getting that.
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Wasn't going to buy it anyway....
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Wasn't going to buy it anyway....

But the OM-D (EM5) came out just in time to prevent me from following the masses.

I have been a strong advocate of both Fuji(ca) and Olympus for many many years, but I am a little shocked by Fuji's overpricing strategy beginning with the GF670 folder. Am I missing something. It appears to me the Olympus models offer a an overall better feature set than the Fuji's for less money. And the lesser price is NOT a reflection of lesser quality, in my opinion.

I did not expect the retro look of the OM-D, but I have been waiting for these specs for a while. The fact that is looks like my old OM camera's and is only 1 centimeter less in length than the original OM-1 is a nice touch for me.
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Old 02-20-2012   #12
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The GF670 is only $1700 new. That seems reasonable for a niche rangefinder with lens included. The XP1 and 35/1.4 costs the same amount as a NEX-7/24mm combo and you get a unique OVF to boot.

The products are expensive, no doubt, but I don't see them as out of line.

The OM-D has a smaller sensor and no OVF. It's also taking some flak for being twice the price of a very similar Panny G3.
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I've ordered one. I have been very happy with my X100, so adding the X Pro doesn't feel like much of a risk.
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pre-ordered and waiting anxiously.
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Old 02-20-2012   #15
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I think Fuji's pricing is aggressive, but so are a lot of other camera makers'. The GF670's pricing is keyed off the used prices for Plaubel Makina 67s. I'm not in the market for a Makina 67, but if I was, I'd buy the Fuji brand new rather than spending $1400 for a 25-year-old camera.
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I pre-ordered, but may not go through with it depending on the samples that i see. X-100 may be just as good for me.
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I'd be more interested, but i'm worried the focus system will be like the X100s.. which isn't bad, but isn't great in a lot of situations. I know mine frustrates me sometimes and has made me curse on many occasions.
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Old 02-20-2012   #19
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There was a demo model at the local Kitamura, I'd love to get one but the price is just too high for me at the moment.
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Old 02-20-2012   #20
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I really like it. But I've made a decision to spend the next year using my Hexar AF; if I process and scan that will be less than the depreciation on a digital. And I want to see some good options introduced for MF, so it's as practical as the Ricoh, and see how good the AF is in practice.

Yet I like the look of Fuji lenses and suspect it's only a matter of time.
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If and when they make a full frame M-Mount version with coupled rangefinder. That would be worth trading my Leica film cameras for.
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seems like a nice camera, but it's not for me. not right now anyway.
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I want to see reviews on how it handles (and especially focuses) m-mount glass first. And seeing how Fuji deals with bug reports. thought them quite arrogant towards their customers in the past.
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If and when they make a full frame M-Mount version with coupled rangefinder. That would be worth trading my Leica film cameras for.
So you want them to produce the M9. I'm sure they'll leap at the chance.
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i don't care about manual focus or m mount lenses...

as long as the af is as good as on the x100 i would be happy.
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i am very interested in the xpro but can't really afford it without selling my current kit...and i'm not sure about doing that.
I am in the same boat here.I think I will wait until others are actually using it. Selling gear would be required and I guess I will wait and see.
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I am getting one.
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Old 02-20-2012   #28
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i don't care about manual focus
This statement echoes Fuji's own attitude toward manual focus.. The rest of this post is not directed at the author though. Just my own rant.

retro looks
aperture ring
shutter speed dial
OVF
fixed lens

Ok, so far this sounds very much like an old school camera...

piss-poor manual focus

Hmm...

If they were aiming to recreate the shooting experience of even an average manual camera - they've failed badly..

I have this uneasy feeling that sometime in the future, there won't even be any cameras with MF... But hey, dumb AF knows better what I want to focus on than I know myself. The future is bright.
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on my nikon d90, i can set the af area i want, same with the spot meter...this is ideal for me as it focusses exactly where i want.

if the fuji did that as well...
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This statement echoes Fuji's own attitude toward manual focus.. The rest of this post is not directed at the author though. Just my own rant.

retro looks
aperture ring
shutter speed dial
OVF
fixed lens

Ok, so far this sounds very much like an old school camera...

piss-poor manual focus

Hmm...

If they were aiming to recreate the shooting experience of even an average manual camera - they've failed badly..

I have this uneasy feeling that sometime in the future, there won't even be any cameras with MF... But hey, dumb AF knows better what I want to focus on than I know myself. The future is bright.
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on my nikon d90, i can set the af area i want, same with the spot meter...this is ideal for me as it focusses exactly where i want.

if the fuji did that as well...
It's a single center spot focussing point. Same as the x100. Which is the best kind - an AF version of an RF patch.
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I just wish it would allow some sort of back-button focusing method. Then I'd be in heaven.
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I canceled my order, thinking it wise to wait and see how it shakes out.
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I'm not anxious, but canceling means paying an extra $250 for the lenses. Just got the NEX-7 and mixed feelings..great video. Love my X100 and that is why I don't mind waiting...decisions.
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I just wish it would allow some sort of back-button focusing method. Then I'd be in heaven.
It does - AF-L button on the back. Same as the x100.
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It does - AF-L button on the back. Same as the x100.
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Clarifying my pricing comments on Fuji....
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Clarifying my pricing comments on Fuji....

My pricing comment on the Fuji GF670, was not based on street prices which "may" be found at the current time. When the GF670 came out, the original pricing was $2400, and remained that way for some time. It's certainly to be expected that street price would bring that down, and not surprised if it can be found for $1700. I think that the comment about a $1300 price has to be referencing a "used" model... certainly not new from a retailer.

Then the wide version comes out and WHAT? Fuji takes out the bellows, strut assembly, and folding front standard, and introduces it for almost $1000 more than the original GF670. Hmmm? Hence my confusion about Fuji taking considerable advantage of the fact they are the only contender intro'ing a new film medium format in many years.

Likewise, I think the price they are asking for a fixed lens pseudo range finder is also above reasonable. The point of them issuing a similar second offering plays to the comment "Fool me once, shame on you..... Fool me twice, shame on me..."
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I placed a pre-order for the X Pro-1 at my local camera shop 5 weeks ago. I'm just ordering the 35/1.4 lens for now. I was pleased to read recent reports that the camera feels light. Occasionally I'll carry the X100 and the XP1 together, so light is good. I will keep the X100 for quite a while as I like to have a back up camera suitable for everyday use. Also I find the X100 to be invisible, so it may be better in situations where the XP1 might appear too serious.

I also find using the X100 AF manually is quite similar in process to using an analog RF patch. The lack of true MF in Fuji's design for the X series lenses does not bother me. The MF situation may change when the M adaptor is released. Or, it may not. Since I don't own any M lenses, I don't worry about that.

I tried m4/3 for a year and the raw files just didn't have the quality I found in my Nikon APS-C raw files. I feel the X100 raw files out shine the Nikon's (D300). The DxO data confirms my qualitative conclusions. So, the OM-D is of no interest to me. It looks like it will be a tough little body though. I can see how others will embrace the Oly system.
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Then I'll be in heaven.
On the X100 the back-button focus is only available in MF mode. Once the camera locks focus during a button press, focus will not change unless you turn the lens collar or press the button again. This method works well in EVF mode because the focus box can be set to a very small area. This means it is easy to know exactly where the focus point is and it is also easy to find a high contrast object for focus in low light. Also, focus lock confirmation is more obvious in EVF mode. Once focus is set a quick press of the EVF/OVF switch puts you in OVF mode.

I often focus in EVF and recompose and press the shutter in OVF.
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On the X100 the back-button focus is only available in MF mode. Once the camera locks focus during a button press, focus will not change unless you turn the lens collar or press the button again. This method works well in EVF mode because the focus box can be set to a very small area. This means it is easy to know exactly where the focus point is and it is also easy to find a high contrast object for focus in low light. Also, focus lock confirmation is more obvious in EVF mode. Once focus is set a quick press of the EVF/OVF switch puts you in OVF mode.

I often focus in EVF and recompose and press the shutter in OVF.
Actually I use the AF-L button all the time in AF-S mode. I have it set to focus lock only and also set to toggle on/off with presses of the button. I will focus with a half press of the shutter, get the green box confirmation, then if I wish to hold the focus for multiple shots I press the button once. From then on focus is held and the focus box remains green. This is a great way to set up temporary zone focusing by the way. Then, another click of the button and lock is released.
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It took me two years to get an X100, which I'm now loving, so I figure it'll take me a year or so to actually consider an X Pro-1. I still have my M8, but its sensor is terrible over ISO 320 anymore, so I might wind up going for the big Fuji...
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