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View Poll Results: You have similar condition M2 and M3. Which ONE do you black paint?
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Which to black paint: M2 or M3? |
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10-13-2010
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良かったね！
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Which to black paint: M2 or M3?
Simple question for someone really considering getting a black-painted M. If you have an M3 and an M2 in similar condition, which one do you get black-painted?
Thanks!
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10-13-2010
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Ride, dive, shoot.
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I'd go with M2. There is something special about the film counter dial on M2, at lease for me. I think it will look awesome either black painted or left silver for a Panda job.
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10-13-2010
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That's really me
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I have a spare M3 top plate. I'm planning on trying my hand at painting the piece soon. I've found a silversmith and narrowed down my paint options. Hopefully sometime in the coming weeks I'll have picked up some experience painting these cameras before deciding to go through with my M3.
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10-13-2010
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eclipse
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Do 'em both and sell one to me.
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10-13-2010
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良かったね！
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I see that everyone has caught the logic of why I didn't include options [C]both or [D]none. :-) This is not about whether to paint black, but which one is better in black. I figure I can afford one Shintaro job sometime in the next few months. So, this is a definite either-or for me.
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10-13-2010
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Ride, dive, shoot.
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My vote on M2 still stands.
Disc film counter is the main thing here. I think it would look real nice. I wish either my M2 was black or my BP MP had M2 style counter...
Oh and I'm sure M2 would be a bit easier to paint due to simpler top plate design, film counter/pointer.
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10-13-2010
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Well, I voted M3. (the only one so far!)
There's just something about the lines and the raised windows on the M3 that I love, and after handling a (original!) black paint M3, I'm not sure that there's any better looking camera out there.
-Brian
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10-13-2010
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... likes film.
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10-13-2010
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m2 is a bit easier if you are doing it yourself.
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10-13-2010
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isn't up to a whole lot
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Which one gets more use?
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10-14-2010
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Damien
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If it was me, it would be the M2, as my preference for black M's lays in their greater discreetness on the street, and when I'm shooting on the street it is with a 35mm lens for which the M2 has a frameline. I kinda regret selling my M6 for this reason, as the black-bodied M6 would almost disappear when slung across my chest over a black top.
What does a repaint cost by the way ?
EDIT: AH, just checked out Shintaro's page. Quite nice, although expensive enough to rule out an impulse paint 
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10-14-2010
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良かったね！
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Sug, Brian - I think you hit on two key issues in terms of how black paint wears.
Damien - Equally important, which one will actually become worn. (M2 is in the mail, so it is TBD over the next few months *before* I commit to a paint job.) Presently, I tend to use the M3 as my go-to night camera because I get accuracy with the 50/1.2 and 35/1.2. I don't know how my usage will change when the M2 arrives.
Damien, Fraser - I'm in Japan, as is Shintaro. The yen is strong, and he takes payment in dollars. This will be a pro job if the currency stars stay aligned. ($500 ~ Y42000 last I checked)
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10-14-2010
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Preserving Old Technology
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsReallyDarren
I have a spare M3 top plate. I'm planning on trying my hand at painting the piece soon. I've found a silversmith and narrowed down my paint options.
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I may be missing something here. What does a silversmith have to do with painting a camera?
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10-14-2010
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Preserving Old Technology
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I voted for the M2, by the way. BP M2's are way cool.
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10-14-2010
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I know some like pandas but to me it always looks like half a job. If you are going to do or have it done then for me it should look like the originals as far as possible. The only parts that are a pain to do are the film reminder dial on the back door and the strap lugs.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob-F
I may be missing something here. What does a silversmith have to do with painting a camera?
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Silversmith can use reverse electrolysis to strip off the chrome.
Or else maybe he's having rubies or emeralds studded in the camera. Gold-plated? A Sultan of Brunei model?? |
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10-14-2010
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Dad Photographer
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I would not want to mess with the Queen of all Leica cameras.
The M2 can be painted black ...
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10-14-2010
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Shoot Film
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Who does this and how much does it cost?
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10-14-2010
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The Shintaro guy's site says 500$ for a body. For that price I'd rather just buy another body, a bit of black tape and 40 cases of beer.
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10-14-2010
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Ride, dive, shoot.
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Robert's site rangefinderrestorations.com is gone. Last time I heard, I thought he was working on a redesign of the site. Does anyone know if he's still in business??
Curse the super weak USD. I have no JPY bank account...  |
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10-14-2010
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SHintaro is worth it - in that if he paints your camera, you'll likely get your money back. I did.
But as for getting your camera back... did jaapv ever get his?
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10-14-2010
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That's really me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by coelacanth
Robert's site rangefinderrestorations.com is gone. Last time I heard, I thought he was working on a redesign of the site. Does anyone know if he's still in business??
Curse the super weak USD. I have no JPY bank account... |
The site was moved over to http://restoration35.com/
last time I spoke with Robert he was not accepting new cameras to paint. I'm still waiting on a part from him.
CCR Luton offers to repaint cameras. I've seen a few around here that he's worked on.
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genius and moron
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M2. The film counter on my MP3 is really a nice touch.
This isn't mine, but gives a good look at one.
Last edited by sepiareverb : 10-14-2010 at 16:12.
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10-14-2010
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Ride, dive, shoot.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsReallyDarren
The site was moved over to http://restoration35.com/
last time I spoke with Robert he was not accepting new cameras to paint. I'm still waiting on a part from him.
CCR Luton offers to repaint cameras. I've seen a few around here that he's worked on. |
Thanks Darren. Maybe he's not accepting new orders now, but I'm glad he's still in business. I've been thinking of BP M2 for a long time... |
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