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Old 10-14-2010   #26
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that's appealing. I think this is probably shot in Denver and I therefore doubt that it's a union shop.

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You should get paid and screen credit. Too bad it's for TV, as TV shows of this sort are very rarely union shows, had it been union you could've used this as an opportunity to join the camera guild as a still photographer if that were something you were interested in
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She's lying through her teeth unfortunatly, of course they have a graphics budget, while she might find photos for free designers dont work for free. I'd pass on it unfortunatly. If you want to work for credit its up to you but the only reputation it will garner is one of someone who works for credit unfortunatly.
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Jay, I'm with you on this, especially on the sense that she's lying. They will probably spend hundreds of dollars on baking supplies alone. I am guessing that she will decline.

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they may have decided they won't put money in a "photograph" budget when nthey all sat down and wrote the budget but that shouldn't be mistaken for not having money.

as Jay has mentioned, you must decide on the course forward and only you know your priorities. sadly though, there is no course forward if no ones is paying.
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might i also add that i am gobsmacked when i see folks who profit from others talent and creativity trying to low ball/rip off the talent in the process.
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Wow, what a bunch of BS. I know nothing about professional photography, but this just reeks of the miserly penny-pinching that companies seem to feel is justified in this economy. Disgusting. I'm sure she gets a hefty bonus for getting the show to come in under-budget. My bet is that your compensation was merely a roadblock on the way to her bonus.
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thanks, emraphoto and hipsterdufus.

the funny thing is that I would be delighted for a pittance. since I am not famous and don't earn my living doing this, a $100 to $200 per image would be a windfall. I'm not Ansel Adams and these shots are not Moonrise. I'm sure their coffee and pastry budget in the Green Room at their studio exceeds my "asking" price.

To all who have commented, as someone who hasn't done this before, I really appreciate both the tips and the moral support. So, thanks everyone.
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She's lying through her teeth unfortunatly, of course they have a graphics budget, while she might find photos for free designers dont work for free. I'd pass on it unfortunatly. If you want to work for credit its up to you but the only reputation it will garner is one of someone who works for credit unfortunatly.
100 per cent agree. No pay, no play.

I've done quite a few odd TV bits to do with my work, and after a time it's liberating to hear them go thru the spiel, how much they like you and your work, blah blah softsoap softsoap, as I listeni politely and say thank you - and then ask what the fee is. Once you've been paid for a few you realise how much BS all their earlier talk is - in the end they always pay. If they were plugging a photo book of yours, it would be worth considering, but otherwise you're just giving away your own intellectual property for free.

It's important to note that, if you do give your work away, you won't make them like or respect you more, despite assurances to the contrary!
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Paul, thanks.

You are all stiffening up my spine (in a good way).
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By the way, the shots are good. I'm sorry someone is attempting to demean you - but hey, people will always try it on. Best of luck.
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I don't feel the least bit demeaned. It's just business. She's got a job to do and it's to be a cheapskate. I don't take this stuff personally. Probably, if I weren't a photographer and had her job, I might (I hate to admit) I might do it the same way she does. But, we all know better since we live this.

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