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09-25-2010
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Do you think Fuji will release other focal lengths?
So do you think Fuji will release second and third versions of the X100 with approx 50 and 85 mm equivalent focal lengths? Or maybe other focal lengths. What do you think?
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09-25-2010
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09-25-2010
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28 mm-equivalent in the future. I say that because the framelines have just enough room to be expanded to a focal length of 28mm:
Fuji X100 - view through optical viewfinder by Miserere, on Flickr
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09-25-2010
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I'm thinking that Fuji's thinking that we're all thinking about an interchangeable lens model.
I personally would not need another focal length for 2 daze past eternity but....
I talked with every street shooter that was ever borne or ever will be and most would like to see an interchangeable model.
We doin' need no stinkin' other focal lengths...
Man ain't no man can't see 35mm....
Sheeeesh!
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09-25-2010
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And, I will say longer focal length is also possible...if a threaded eyepiece magnifier is added for the OVF. The EVF will take care of itself.
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09-25-2010
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i would like one with a 24/25 lens on it. what a great kit that would make...
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It may well be that with this camera Fuji is testing a new concept and design. If the camera will be successful I would not be surprised if they would bring a version with exchangeable lenses.
Concerning another fixed lens "X" cameras - I am not sure. Maybe 50 mm would sell, but I doubt how many users would actually buy a fixed 28 mm lens. I think with 35 mm fuji hit the sweet spot for travel fixed lens camera. Think of all the high end film compacts from the past (Hexar AF, Contax T3, Leica CM or similar)
I would actually like to see a zoom version - maybe 25-50 f/2.8-f/4 or even faster/longer. That would make it a great travel camera. I would not mind if the zoom would only work in 4 different positions (25, 28, 35, 50). But I am obviously biased by my recently acquired Fuji Silvi f2.8 which proved to be great during my holiday in Spain (as a "side" camera to Mamiya 6, of course  )
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09-25-2010
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No. Maybe if technology expands then a zoom lens. I am waiting for Leica's reply to this camera.
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09-25-2010
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IF the X100 is successful, it would be relatively straightforward to augment it with an interchangeable lens version. It's not unthinkable, if we look at the example of the Hexar. Looking at the Xpan, I'd guess we'd have 28, 45 and 90mm lenses to choose from.
What I hope is that they'll adapt their newly developed technology to produce digitally-augmented rangefinder focusing.
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09-25-2010
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More than likely, an optional lens converter will be available. Perhaps a 28, 50 and maybe 90. Screw it on the lens and yer good to go.
I'll bet if they do that, I won't be the only one abandoning ship.
Unfortunately, it's a distinct possibility!
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09-25-2010
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Why not M mount?
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09-25-2010
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The future is as clear as muddy coffee, who knows what will happen when, if ever.
Let's just see what the real thing looks like in March 2011, right? I mean, that's six months from now! 
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Quote:
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Why not M mount?
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Because it adds a huge amount of complexity: an expensive precision bayonet mount, extra room in the body for a large focal plane shutter (as opposed to a simple in-lens leaf shutter), no way to optimize the lens/shutter combination, much more complicated calibration of lenses and bodies, and no way for the camera electronics to read the set aperture from the lens.
So, no M mount.
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I think, IF this is camera does very well, (all the talk at all photography forums, shows it should),Fuji may very well introduce an Interchangeable lens camera with similar specks, But, a slightly different OVF (a zoom VF, or Frame Lines for a few primes... 18/23/35/55 (28/35/50/82 fov)?
Or a they could a similar series as the 645 RF
X100, (23mm/35 fov),
X100-W (15mm/20mm fov),
X100-N (35mm/50mm fov),
X100-T (55mm/82mm fov)
Although, A high IQ set of Add on converters, would be more accepted for those that want a versatile camera. For 21mm, 28mm, and 50mm fov conversions. The 82mm or 90mm Conversion may be a bit much for keeping the size down.
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I'm not sure about 50mm, not speaking about 85mm. Neither of this focal lengths have been common in digital compacts, where most users demand either wide angle or 300-400mm eq. Well, if Fuji decide to make them for film camera users....that may happen.
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No, they won't. My $.02 USD
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40mm for the win!
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I'd like it if they came out with a short tele version (75-85mm equivalent), but I seriously doubt it would happen. Looking at their past history of fixed lens MF RFs, you see them doing normal, wide and wider - no teles.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by btgc
I'm not sure about 50mm, not speaking about 85mm. Neither of this focal lengths have been common in digital compacts, where most users demand either wide angle or 300-400mm eq. Well, if Fuji decide to make them for film camera users....that may happen.
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But its targetted at pros. That means portrait.
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Quote:
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Because it adds a huge amount of complexity: an expensive precision bayonet mount, extra room in the body for a large focal plane shutter (as opposed to a simple in-lens leaf shutter), no way to optimize the lens/shutter combination, much more complicated calibration of lenses and bodies, and no way for the camera electronics to read the set aperture from the lens.
So, no M mount.
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I do not know about the M mount feasibility, but I would seriously doubt that Fuji would bring a multi-lens camera with each lens having a leaf shutter. Not that it limits the top speed to about 1/500, but it would raise the cost significantly as well. Also the light metering implementation would become more difficult I guess ...
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Much depends, I think, on who Fuji decides is buying the X100. If that's typical P&S users who just want the panache of a retro-looking camera, I don't think they'd find much incentive to change anything.
If they decide that folks like us are buying the camera, then they have a real incentive to bring out different focal lengths and/or interchangeable lenses. The stereotypical snapshot shooter can't be bothered with such things.
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who needs anything more for what this camera is?
35 is perfect!
a few steps back and you get wider, a few steps closer and you get longer....
there are great manual dials for a reason -- use them! and, as stated above, the legs can get a little action as well 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wgerrard
Much depends, I think, on who Fuji decides is buying the X100. If that's typical P&S users who just want the panache of a retro-looking camera, I don't think they'd find much incentive to change anything.
If they decide that folks like us are buying the camera, then they have a real incentive to bring out different focal lengths and/or interchangeable lenses. The stereotypical snapshot shooter can't be bothered with such things.
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Well the point is that you can buy a handful of these things for the less than the price of a single M9. I'd happily buy 3 or 4 different focal length versions rather than pay for one M9. Just imagine, each viewfinder would be optimised for its focal length so you get a full(ish) frame viewing. No incy wincy patch for short tele lenses so you can see what you are doing.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matus
I do not know about the M mount feasibility, but I would seriously doubt that Fuji would bring a multi-lens camera with each lens having a leaf shutter. Not that it limits the top speed to about 1/500, but it would raise the cost significantly as well. Also the light metering implementation would become more difficult I guess ...
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I guess it works like just about any digital compact camera, with a relatively primitive in-lens leaf shutter that is open most of the time. I think it's called a semi-electronic shutter; all the leaf shutter does is close at the end of exposure, the rest is done electronically.
Metering is quite easy - if you look at a digital compact, you can see how the shutter is open most of the time.
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Yeah the camera is perfect at 35mm. Any longer and it becomes too long as an only camera, any shorter and it can't be used for certain things. 35mm is the greatest allrounder. It's all about simplicity.
If they were to make an interchangeable lens model, it would HAVE to be a full frame. They tuned the sensor to the lens with the x100, to just chuck an interchangeable mount on it wouldn't work - they'd have to somehow tune the microlenses to the lens each time a new one is mounted, or just try and do a 'coverall' sort of thing. It wouldn't be as good.
I'm happy with the 35mm thanks. If I want interchangeable lenses or wider/longer lengths I'll use it with my already significantly more versatile DSLR - which is how it was designed to be used.
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