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Digital Leica M8 / M8.2 / M9 / M-E /Mono / M10 aka "M" Discussions about the Leica M8 /M 8.2 / M9 / M9-P/ M-E / M Monochrom / M10 aka "M": Leica digital M mount rangefinder cameras. Naming the new digital M the "Leica M" is VERY unfortunate as it will only confuse newbies with other Leica M cameras of the the past. Happily there is room for confusion with only the past 59 years of Leica M production ... since Leica introduced the Leica M system in 1953. All Hail for the Leica Marketing Department learning Leica M history!

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Old 09-20-2010   #51
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At least they've finally stopped being so married to the looks of the M3. No real reason the camera has to look like it did 60 years ago except for the stick in the mud users who complain about the new cameras so much they won't buy one. I for one would love an M10 that had a built-in grip.
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Old 09-20-2010   #52
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At least they've finally stopped being so married to the looks of the M3. No real reason the camera has to look like it did 60 years ago except for the stick in the mud users who complain about the new cameras so much they won't buy one. I for one would love an M10 that had a built-in grip.
Well, I love the looks of the M3, myself, and I'm not a luddite about these things. I love the look of the X1, too, and the X100 even more. I think the M9Ti looks like a clunky fusion of modern styling cues and retro M3 configuration. Wishy-washy.
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Is there some gizmo like a led reading light which you can attach to the hot shoe and shine it through the bright lines illumination window? Would this work at night?
Yep. Works. And much cheaper. Also allows you to look at the lens scales ...



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Am I imagining things, or is the M9T godawful ugly?





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Yep. Works. And much cheaper. Also allows you to look at the lens scales ...



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And stealthy too!
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Is it just me or not? I find this camera really ugly LOL
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Old 09-20-2010   #57
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I'm sure someone who parts with the 22k Euro won't think it's ugly ... and good luck to them I say!

I'm waiting for the white one myself!
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Old 09-20-2010   #58
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the raised titanium plates resemble armor plating, but not in a good way. they should have let herman zimmerman (the production designer for star trek since who knows when) design it.
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its kind of like a car company making a concept car, selling it for R&D money for the next model.

While I'm sure the next M camera will have similar styling cues to this camera. It will be toned down from what you see here.

if they cut off the fat and make it lithe and whispy, the minimalism design language would look much better. But as it stands. well... she makes the M5 look elegant.
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Old 09-20-2010   #60
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I think this camera makes much more sense as a design concept/ path indicator for Leica. Someone likened it to a concept car on one of the previous pages. I think that's spot on. At 500 units, it's certainly not what I'd call a production camera, but rather an indicator of the M10's future.

I, for one, dont mind the design and actually think its a solid modern interpretation of the "M" style. The price is rediculous, but maybe the concepts behind it aren't.
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I guess Luigi and Zhou are already getting ready to sell their own holsters. I'd like a hand-tooled one from Mexico like the old pistol holsters....if I could afford the camera.

The ugly, weird loop for the fingers looks like a cheap and poorly functioning alternative to the leicagoodies.com sling 'cause they didn't wanna pay a royalty to the the latter. I also wonder how long it will take for the loop to all off, then it's a $500 repair bill.
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ick! that is one ugly camera. it is a characterless caricature of a leica M. the lego M9 is better looking. I'm unconcerned about not being able to afford this one. this what the automobile designer J Mays did with the new Beetle and the new T-Bird. He distilled all of the character out of them, aped the classic shapes and left the world with two style-less lumps of metal that were poor imitations of classics. the iPhone is better imitation of Leica style than this. did the lens shade come off the BP oil drilling platform in the gulf? wow. time to buy a IIIC barnack for me.
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did the lens shade come off the BP oil drilling platform in the gulf?

... that was funny!
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That's certainly true: no one will run any film through this.

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This is a camera designed for the show case. No one will run even one roll of film through it...the new design details are irrelevant.
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lol on the white one, Keith.

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I'm sure someone who parts with the 22k Euro won't think it's ugly ... and good luck to them I say!

I'm waiting for the white one myself!
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I'm ashamed, but I think it's a cool looking camera...
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Am I imagining things, or is the M9T godawful ugly?





Hi,

I am here to answer your query. No, that is one butt-ugly camera, you are seeing it as it is. My first assumption was that this was just a joke...

It turns out that I was wrong.

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The thing that amazes me is there's been people waiting for delivery of their 'normal' $7000.00 M9's while Solms have been messing around with this horror show!

It's obviously been on the drawing board taking up resources for a while!
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this camera ought to have a nice little pop-up flash. and, image stabilization. and 1080p video. and a fixed zoom lens. and cost about $1500. and be labeled as a fuji or canon.

this is evolutionary in design in the same way that giving up our opposable thumbs would be evolutionary. honestly, if leica wants to keep making cameras that look like M2s, M3s, MPs, that's cool. If they don't want to do that, that's cool, too. if they want a fresh design, they should start with blank piece of paper (as when they moved from Barnacks to M's) and come up with something truly fresh. Give it a different name. Try new materials (any reason no one makes camera bodies using carbon fiber???). If they want to stick with M's and their classic style, this doesn't cut it. It's Bauhaus-ed to death, IMHO. Why keep the classic M style AND come out with something truly fresh? Why not do both at once? This is a poor compromise.
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That's certainly true: no one will run any film through this.
Very true - People do tend to have a hard time trying to run film through digital cameras

But yes, this camera is made to be vacuum sealed, and then put back into its original packing forever.
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To be honest, I don't want this camera at all: I NEED IT! OR, better yet, I will take that same 22k and buy either 22 M6's or maybe 44 slightly battered M3's and fill an inflatable swimming pool with them and just sort of writhe around in them. Either that or I will lay them out on a patch of grass somewhere and make "Leica angels" in them.
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44 slightly battered M3's and fill an inflatable swimming pool with them and just sort of writhe around in them

Ahh ... a true M3 fan!
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NaChase, I like your style!
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M10 spy photos released at Photokina...

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4127/...423985d2_z.jpg

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Gentlemen, I will take take my M3, along with my harem of concubines, with me to the grave. Hopefully by then I will have been able to afford a nice 50mm Summilux. But seriously, this camera, while kinda-sorta cool looking, is ridiculous. I wish I were rich so I could buy and use it out of spite to collectors everywhere.
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