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Apple iPhone 4 is like a Leica
Steve Jobs of Apple introduced the new iPhone 4 yesterday and said it was so well made that the only thing he could compare it to was a beautiful old Leica camera. Here's the video link. The Leica reference is made at about the 31 minute mark. You can move the slider if you want to fast forward.
http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.ne...ent/index.html
OK, here is probably the hottest new consumer product in the world being compared to an old Leica, quality-wise. WOW!
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And the funny thing is, the old Leica will still be worth something (and function) in 3 years.
I look forward to handling one, I wonder what Steve's experience with Leica is...
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Wonder if he wants to buy the company?
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Originally Posted by thrice
And the funny thing is, the old Leica will still be worth something (and function) in 3 years.
I look forward to handling one, I wonder what Steve's experience with Leica is...
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If I had to guess, I'd say that Steve might own an M9, but maybe he shoots with an iPhone 4.
What I found astounding was his comparison between his brain-child and an incredibly hand-crafted "old Leica"...I wonder if the comment was scripted or came right off the top of his head.
Steve Jobs is a genius in his own field, but he is also able to recognize ingenious designs in other consumer products. If only Leica had a CEO like Steve Jobs!
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Does that mean I can put a red dot on my iPhone?
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Originally Posted by kkdanamatt
Steve Jobs is a genius in his own field, but he is also able to recognize ingenious designs in other consumer products. If only Leica had a CEO like Steve Jobs!
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I threw up a little in my mouth when I read that.
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I'm not sure I'd compare much made today to a Leica. Particularly to a Leica IIIf or a M2. These cameras were made well over 50 years ago and the same cameras will likely still be completely functional and repairable when no one can remember what a iPhone or for that matter a iPad was.
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I threw up a little in my mouth when I read that.
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same here. :|
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I'll get me one if its available in black paint (or white!) over brass.
Until then, I'm putting scratches on my 3GS 
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If Steve made the M9 I'd own 5 of them.
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What ???
Surly everything apple is the complete antithesis of what leica is..
Apples are a triumph of form over function, Leicas are built to function first and foremost..
But then then Im a life long apple hater....
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My first reaction is,
"did he mean that no substantial changes/innovation from iphone 1 to 4?"
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In the sense that it's a decent tool, albeit with flaws that are denied fervently by rabid fanboys?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by kkdanamatt
If I had to guess, I'd say that Steve might own an M9, but maybe he shoots with an iPhone 4.
What I found astounding was his comparison between his brain-child and an incredibly hand-crafted "old Leica"...I wonder if the comment was scripted or came right off the top of his head.
Steve Jobs is a genius in his own field, but he is also able to recognize ingenious designs in other consumer products. If only Leica had a CEO like Steve Jobs!
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Steve Jobs has been recognized as the god in Apple world. For me, Apple was a company doing all kinds of computer system.software and hardware once. But now it only sale handphone and its add-value service.
So u call it a great success or great failure?
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If there is a iPhone analogy in the camera world, it would be the SX70...
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Steve Jobs has been recognized as the god in Apple world. For me, Apple was a company doing all kinds of computer system.software and hardware once. But now it only sale handphone and its add-value service.
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I hope they stay with the hardware/ Mac OS. After bouncing between Vista and XP, I finally decided to try the Mac. I used one once during undergrad and hated the OS and everything Apple. Hesitant to spend money on possible junk, I joined the Hackintosh community and got the OS working on my PC. It was great. Took some getting used to and there are certain things I miss from Windows, but as a whole it was a better experience. When Snow came out, I started having issues with the hackintosh with Snow and decided it was time to pay my dues. I purchased a Mac Mini and have zero regrets. I am patiently waiting for the new Mac Pro as the Mini does not have enough juice to work with my 700mb MF scans.
So, regardless of the worship/hate apple gets, I believe they make great tools (though very much over priced) and I hope they continue providing people other options than Windows and Linux.
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Does that mean I can put a red dot on my iPhone?
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Skip the red dot. Simply cover the phone in black tape.
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Originally Posted by pevelg
I hope they stay with the hardware/ Mac OS. After bouncing between Vista and XP, I finally decided to try the Mac. I used one once during undergrad and hated the OS and everything Apple. Hesitant to spend money on possible junk, I joined the Hackintosh community and got the OS working on my PC. It was great. Took some getting used to and there are certain things I miss from Windows, but as a whole it was a better experience. When Snow came out, I started having issues with the hackintosh with Snow and decided it was time to pay my dues. I purchased a Mac Mini and have zero regrets. I am patiently waiting for the new Mac Pro as the Mini does not have enough juice to work with my 700mb MF scans.
So, regardless of the worship/hate apple gets, I believe they make great tools (though very much over priced) and I hope they continue providing people other options than Windows and Linux.
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I'm 27 now, I bought my first computer with saved up birthday money when I was 12 for $300, a used AST I think it was. From then until my teens, I used Windows. I started to dual boot with Linux and after a few years, decided I didn't use the Windows partition enough and erased it. I was a Linux user until I bought a MacBook in May 2006. I've been a Mac user since. (My servers still run Linux, first Debian and now a Debian Ubuntu mix. I don't see migrating from a Linux server environment happening at all.)
I got a first gen iPhone (aka 2G), a 3G, skipped the 3GS and now I'll get a 4G on launch date. I'll take an Apple product over a Microsoft product any day of the week in any category. While I'd like to be able to pick and choose my hardware, I know part of the appeal is not having to deal with incompatabilities, so I'll pay a bit more to not have to mess with anything and have it Just Work(tm). (Remember IRQ conflicts? Remember doing the PCI shuffle? Remember drivers that would crash your system because they were poorly written?)
Call them overpriced, I call them worth it. My day job now, for the most part, involves supporting 200 workstations that all run Windows in a law office (part of a Fortune 50 company). Not my choice, but it's what I've got to work with. I use a Mac at home because I don't want to deal with problems after work, I see enough of them at work.
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To the best of my knowledge, Leicas are not made in Chinese factories where production staff jump off buildings.
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Originally Posted by Brian Puccio
I'm 27 now, I bought my first computer with saved up birthday money when I was 12 for $300, a used AST I think it was. From then until my teens, I used Windows. I started to dual boot with Linux and after a few years, decided I didn't use the Windows partition enough and erased it. I was a Linux user until I bought a MacBook in May 2006. I've been a Mac user since. (My servers still run Linux, first Debian and now a Debian Ubuntu mix. I don't see migrating from a Linux server environment happening at all.)
I got a first gen iPhone (aka 2G), a 3G, skipped the 3GS and now I'll get a 4G on launch date. I'll take an Apple product over a Microsoft product any day of the week in any category. While I'd like to be able to pick and choose my hardware, I know part of the appeal is not having to deal with incompatabilities, so I'll pay a bit more to not have to mess with anything and have it Just Work(tm). (Remember IRQ conflicts? Remember doing the PCI shuffle? Remember drivers that would crash your system because they were poorly written?)
Call them overpriced, I call them worth it. My day job now, for the most part, involves supporting 200 workstations that all run Windows in a law office (part of a Fortune 50 company). Not my choice, but it's what I've got to work with. I use a Mac at home because I don't want to deal with problems after work, I see enough of them at work.
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Funny, a guy who works on Windows machines all day chooses a Mac for his personal computer.
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From the OP: Some of you just don't get it, I'm afraid |
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From the OP: Some of you just don't get it, I'm afraid
I posted the video of Steve Jobs and pointed out his reference to "a beautiful old Leica camera" as the "closest kin to the iPhone 4 in terms of beauty and precision."
Guys, that doesn't mean that we should compare an iPhone 4 to a Leica. What it means is that someone who is so passionate about his brainchild dared to compare it to the finest product he could think of...a product that is beautiful, precise, and functional....a Leica.
I'd say that is an incredible compliment to Leica, whether or not you love Apple, Steve Jobs, or any iPhone.
And by the way, both products are overpriced, and both have long waiting lines of ready buyers.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kkdanamatt
I posted the video of Steve Jobs and pointed out his reference to "a beautiful old Leica camera" as the "closest kin to the iPhone 4 in terms of beauty and precision."
Guys, that doesn't mean that we should compare an iPhone 4 to a Leica. What it means is that someone who is so passionate about his brainchild dared to compare it to the finest product he could think of...a product that is beautiful, precise, and functional....a Leica.
I'd say that is an incredible compliment to Leica, whether or not you love Apple, Steve Jobs, or any iPhone.
And by the way, both products are overpriced, and both have long waiting lines of ready buyers.
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The Apple haters can't help themselves. They NEED to trash talk so that they feel better with the (less cool) products they have! 
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The Apple haters can't help themselves. They NEED to trash talk so that they feel better with the (less cool) products they have! 
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Excellent choice of avatar 
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Excellent choice of avatar 
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same here. :|
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