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Old 01-25-2013   #726
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Pro-Mone,

For me its the 6x7 format over the square. Nothing like the bigger negative, and the 6x7 to me is an organic format for portraits.

I wonder who bought that 75/2.8 AL that was selling at Adorama for $899.00?

At the next meet-up I'll bring my Rollie 3.5 "Whiteface" that was completely overhauled by Harry Fleenor and has a Maxwell screen upgrade. What makes the Rollei 3.5 a great camera is its WLV, its light weight, and compact size. Rollies are so light and compact that I use to carry a Tele Rolleiflex and the Rollei 3.5 F which made a very light weight portable walk around medium format kit. This camera is so quiet and smooth that I often have to try to advance the film to find out if I fired the shutter. Easily my smoothest and almost silent camera.

Now Andre owns my Tele Rollieflex and basically a Rollei 3.5 and the Tele Rolleiflex is his kit.

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I know Cal. Between you and last week talking with andre I feel like I need to try a rolleiflex. Maybe once I get back from vacation....
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Old 01-25-2013   #727
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I returned the older TTL prism finder that I bought on KEH and ordered another one.
for the time being, here's how I'm shooting my 6x7
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HAHAHA Thats the best ghetto finder i've every seen!! brilliant!!
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I have the impression, that Pentax 67 lenses are actually great for portraiture because of a slightly lower resolution wide open than Hasselblad or Rolleiflex - but this does not apply to all lenses. I have bought the 75AL, 90, 105, 135, 165/4, 165/2.8 and 200/4 and want to give them a fair try. Apparently the 165/4 and 200/4 share common Ernostar design with the Nikkor P 105/2.5 which is legendary in itself. I also like the fact, that with the Pentax adapter you can shoot all the 67 lenses on Pentax 645N with full AE functionality, and that camera has an incredibly nice viewfinder - here's one on 645N with the Pentax 67 90/2.8 wide open:


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Old 01-26-2013   #729
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I long ago sold my Pentax 6X7. Actually 13 years ago when i traded it for a Leica M6TTL. I have never missed the system.
So saying, i wish to say, to all of you posting images here, what a marvelous job you are doing! Great photos. Each one so clear and beautiful. True mastery of good equipment that has become excellent by your achievements. I sold because of the weight and my age, plus i don't enjoy any large camera. The camera never gave a moments trouble. Well carrying a back up battery or two, didn't hurt.
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I want one , just for portraits. Would You recomended the Pentax 67 with the 105 over... rollei or hasselblad? is in the same league concerning to IQ?
Ultimately, if I had to choose between the 67 + 105 or a Hassy/Rollei, I'd probably got for the 67. I have the 67 + 105 and also a Rollei 2.8F and I personally think they're compareable quality wise. I actually tend to prefer the photos from my 67.

Having said that, there is no substitute for the square frame, so if that's what you're into (I love it) then get a Hassy/Rollei.
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I have the impression, that Pentax 67 lenses are actually great for portraiture because of a slightly lower resolution wide open than Hasselblad or Rolleiflex - but this does not apply to all lenses. I have bought the 75AL, 90, 105, 135, 165/4, 165/2.8 and 200/4 and want to give them a fair try. Apparently the 165/4 and 200/4 share common Ernostar design with the Nikkor P 105/2.5 which is legendary in itself. I also like the fact, that with the Pentax adapter you can shoot all the 67 lenses on Pentax 645N with full AE functionality, and that camera has an incredibly nice viewfinder - here's one on 645N with the Pentax 67 90/2.8 wide open:


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Not sure about Hasselblad, but the close focus on the 55/4.0 and 75/2.8 AL is an added capability that gets a lot of use in my work. The close focus even on wides makes for shallow DOF and smooth OOF. For me its very painterly.

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Ultimately, if I had to choose between the 67 + 105 or a Hassy/Rollei, I'd probably got for the 67. I have the 67 + 105 and also a Rollei 2.8F and I personally think they're compareable quality wise. I actually tend to prefer the photos from my 67.
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Having said that, there is no substitute for the square frame, so if that's what you're into (I love it) then get a Hassy/Rollei.
Actually there is... Shoot any other format and crop to square
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Actually there is... Shoot any other format and crop to square
IMHO shooting the square and cropping to a square are distinctly two different approaches. Not really the same.

I seldom crop and format is what it is.

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If anyone is still looking for a Pentax 67, I've got one with a 105mm lens I've been trying to sell for a couple of weeks. It never occurred to me to list on this forum though. It's in good shape, but has some brassing here and there. It does have MLU. Send me a message for more details.

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IMHO shooting the square and cropping to a square are distinctly two different approaches. Not really the same.

I seldom crop and format is what it is.

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I have the impression, that Pentax 67 lenses are actually great for portraiture because of a slightly lower resolution wide open than Hasselblad or Rolleiflex - but this does not apply to all lenses. I have bought the 75AL, 90, 105, 135, 165/4, 165/2.8 and 200/4 and want to give them a fair try. Apparently the 165/4 and 200/4 share common Ernostar design with the Nikkor P 105/2.5 which is legendary in itself. I also like the fact, that with the Pentax adapter you can shoot all the 67 lenses on Pentax 645N with full AE functionality, and that camera has an incredibly nice viewfinder - here's one on 645N with the Pentax 67 90/2.8 wide open:


MF20122801 by mfogiel, on Flickr
stunning shot! her eyes are quite mesmerizing.
Love the 645N, a friend told me I could buy his 645NII + FA 150 2.8, just need to save first.
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I have the impression, that Pentax 67 lenses are actually great for portraiture because of a slightly lower resolution wide open than Hasselblad or Rolleiflex - but this does not apply to all lenses. I have bought the 75AL, 90, 105, 135, 165/4, 165/2.8 and 200/4 and want to give them a fair try. Apparently the 165/4 and 200/4 share common Ernostar design with the Nikkor P 105/2.5 which is legendary in itself. I also like the fact, that with the Pentax adapter you can shoot all the 67 lenses on Pentax 645N with full AE functionality, and that camera has an incredibly nice viewfinder - here's one on 645N with the Pentax 67 90/2.8 wide open:
A casual glance at the SMC 150/2.8 optical design bears more than a passing resemblance of the 150/4.0 Sonnar so much adored by Hasselblad users. A stop faster too.

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Having said that, there is no substitute for the square frame, so if that's what you're into (I love it) then get a Hassy/Rollei.
(EDIT: Redundant. But true)

Lurking inside every 6x7 negative is an infinite number of 6x6 images. The reverse is not true.

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But there never is a true 6x6. 8)
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all these were taken at 1/30s and f/2.4 wit HP5+ or Delta 400 on a tripod

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But there never is a true 6x6. 8)
True. More like 56mm x 56mm. Or something like that. I know that the glass on my Linhof Technika V has a rectangle labeled 56 x 72. So, even my 6 x 7 isn't really 6 or 7. No worries. My eyeballs don't know the difference.
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If anyone is still looking for a Pentax 67, I've got one with a 105mm lens I've been trying to sell for a couple of weeks. It never occurred to me to list on this forum though. It's in good shape, but has some brassing here and there. It does have MLU. Send me a message for more details.

Man I hate that I missed out on that. I've wanted to go 6x7 for awhile as my mamiya 645 just doesn't cut it.

I'm thinking P67, 75/2.8AL, 105/2.4, and 165/4LS... Now to move the rest of the medium format gear and my unused Nikon supertele so I can get the 75...
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Man I hate that I missed out on that. I've wanted to go 6x7 for awhile as my mamiya 645 just doesn't cut it.

I'm thinking P67, 75/2.8AL, 105/2.4, and 165/4LS... Now to move the rest of the medium format gear and my unused Nikon supertele so I can get the 75...
I hear you. I missed out on it too. I PM'd him about it, but somebody else on RFF was quicker than I. Still on the hunt for a reasonably priced Pentax 67 with a lens.
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I hear you. I missed out on it too. I PM'd him about it, but somebody else on RFF was quicker than I. Still on the hunt for a reasonably priced Pentax 67 with a lens.
Check KEH.com.
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Man I hate that I missed out on that. I've wanted to go 6x7 for awhile as my mamiya 645 just doesn't cut it.

I'm thinking P67, 75/2.8AL, 105/2.4, and 165/4LS... Now to move the rest of the medium format gear and my unused Nikon supertele so I can get the 75...
If you get the 75/2.8 AL you might find that your other glass gets seldom used. I own the 105/2.4 and lent it to a friend because the close focus of the 75/2.8 AL an give be the Bokeh of the longer 105/2.4 and the shallow DOF.

I also own a late 55/4.0 and perhaps it gets used about 10%-15%. Get the 75/2.8 first, and you might save a lot of money. I'm not selling my unused glass, but if I had to do it all over again basically all I really need is the 75 AL: it's that good.

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If you get the 75/2.8 AL you might find that your other glass gets seldom used. I own the 105/2.4 and lent it to a friend because the close focus of the 75/2.8 AL an give be the Bokeh of the longer 105/2.4 and the shallow DOF.

I also own a late 55/4.0 and perhaps it gets used about 10%-15%. Get the 75/2.8 first, and you might save a lot of money. I'm not selling my unused glass, but if I had to do it all over again basically all I really need is the 75 AL: it's that good.

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What do these 75mm AL lenses go for usually ($)?
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Pro-Mone,

For me its the 6x7 format over the square. Nothing like the bigger negative, and the 6x7 to me is an organic format for portraits.

I wonder who bought that 75/2.8 AL that was selling at Adorama for $899.00?

At the next meet-up I'll bring my Rollie 3.5 "Whiteface" that was completely overhauled by Harry Fleenor and has a Maxwell screen upgrade. What makes the Rollei 3.5 a great camera is its WLV, its light weight, and compact size. Rollies are so light and compact that I use to carry a Tele Rolleiflex and the Rollei 3.5 F which made a very light weight portable walk around medium format kit. This camera is so quiet and smooth that I often have to try to advance the film to find out if I fired the shutter. Easily my smoothest and almost silent camera.

Now Andre owns my Tele Rollieflex and basically a Rollei 3.5 and the Tele Rolleiflex is his kit.

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A week ago someone said that a 75mm AL lens had sold for $899. No idea of the condition. That is at least half of what I had seen a few years ago. Could be a one time deal. The lens is very good and very desirable.

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What do these 75mm AL lenses go for usually ($)?
I bought mine for $1002.00 from a dealer on EBAY.

Recently Adorama had one in "E-" condition for $899.00. I posted a "HU Pentax 75/2.8 AL" thread after PM'ing a friend who didn't have the cash flow to buy it and someone quickly bought it.

Seen one sell for $1.2K from a member in the "Pentax Forums."

IMHO not many 75 AL's hit the market, and while these prices are expensive in relative terms when compared to other great Pentax glass that sell for no money, to me the 75 AL is the ultimate lens, especially on a P67II with AE prism. Overall I don't see many available, and good luck in finding one.

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The 75/2.8 AL shots here just kill me; they are so nice. I missed having funds for the one listed on Adorama by a couple of days. It's going to be a patient game of waiting for the next one to show up, and hopefully it also goes for a similar price in similar condition.

If anyone ever sees one of these show up (and aren't trying to buy it for themselves), I'd love a heads up, PM, whatever. It's probably going to be my desert island lens for the P67 system.
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The 75/2.8 AL shots here just kill me; they are so nice. I missed having funds for the one listed on Adorama by a couple of days. It's going to be a patient game of waiting for the next one to show up, and hopefully it also goes for a similar price in similar condition.

If anyone ever sees one of these show up (and aren't trying to buy it for themselves), I'd love a heads up, PM, whatever. It's probably going to be my desert island lens for the P67 system.
The 75/2.8 AL gets the most use. It's fast, can close focus, is about the same size of the 105/2.4, ans has this very cool "Tulip Hood."

BTW I own a late 55/4.0 and a late 105/2.4. Both great lenses, but the 75 AL clearly is my best lens.

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