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05-02-2010
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Elmar 9cm f4
Hi how do people find this lens, I've been offered one, (a nice clean example) circa 1949, for £60, I intend to use it on my Canon P
regards Mick
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05-02-2010
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Mine's about 1951-2-3, and I like it especially the size. It is sharp and not too much bigger than a normal lens.

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05-02-2010
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Mine is from 1954. Perfect glass, I cleaned some haze out of it myself.
On the M8, wide-open.
On the M3, Fujicolor 200, 1/15th hand-held.

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05-02-2010
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The 9cm Elmar was for long the principal longish lens offered by Leitz, and with good reason.
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05-03-2010
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Classic Leica look to the images. Sharp from 5.6 on. You will need a lens shade.
If you don`t carry one in your pocket, you are just not a Leica guy.
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05-03-2010
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How difficult is it to find the hood for the elmar
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05-03-2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lxmike
How difficult is it to find the hood for the elmar
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look for the fikus at Ebay, it is really cheap
I have the uncoated 1933 version of the lens. Optics were not clear when I bought it, but it is one of the lenses that is very easy to clean yourself externally as well as internally. The lens is quite sharp but as all pre-WWII lenses, lacks contrast.
The hood is made to be used for 5, 9 and 13,5 cm lenses.

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05-03-2010
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many thanks Ron
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05-04-2010
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john mentioned that it is not much bigger than a normal lens, does anyone have a pick of a 9cm next to a 'normal lens'
regards Mick
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05-04-2010
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There was a collapsible version, maybe he meant that? 'coz the regular one is quite a honker:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/maddoc2003jp/4137344765/
Not mine, however this thread did inspire me to grab a $39 "ugly" copy from KEH last night. I was going to use the Contax for long lenses but try finding even a Triotar for that...
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05-04-2010
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Thanks batterytype, I must admit I have just, (because of this thread too), bought a 9cm f4 Elmar to use on my Canon P.
regards Mike
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05-04-2010
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The collapsible will not collapse on a Canon P, would hit the light baffles. Even if someone converted one to LTM, it is an M-Mount lens. I recently worked on an M-Mount lens that was converted to LTM.
The Rigid is small and light, but larger than a 50mm RF lens.
I have one of each.
Last edited by Brian Sweeney : 05-05-2010 at 01:47.
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05-04-2010
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Many thanks Brian, I have just bought the rigid variant, would post some photos, but do not know how to
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05-04-2010
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^ Two ways:
As attachment (under "Additional options") -- downsides are size limit, only logged-on users can see it, automatically deleted after two years (I think)
As URL: If your photo is on the web (RFF gallery, Flickr, ...), you can use the little "sunset" icon and paste a link to your picture into the dialog box that appears.
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05-04-2010
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It's longer but very small in diameter, about the same as that of a Summar. @ Lxmike: if you need hood give Mwclassic a call, pretty sure they have one.
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05-04-2010
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Thanks Hans I will give MWclassics a call
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05-04-2010
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this is the lens I have just bought for £62
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05-04-2010
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It seems coated but I could be wrong
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05-04-2010
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When you get her check the serial number on the optical part with the focusing body.
I had a somewhat later one, in M mount but she was fun. I got her as part of a carry everywhere kit that I built for my M4-P when my M6 became my primary shooter. She fit in my pocket when I was walking around the Village late at night.
Enjoy her, she is a wonderful companion that will serve you well for many years.
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05-04-2010
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lxmike -- that lens is definitely coated, both from the look of the reflections, and from the serial number being above 600000.
If there's no haze in it, it should be up to snuff.
Not really particularly sharp wide open, but pleasant. With coating, will have some contrast, but not a lot.
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05-04-2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John Shriver
lxmike -- that lens is definitely coated, both from the look of the reflections, and from the serial number being above 600000.
If there's no haze in it, it should be up to snuff.
Not really particularly sharp wide open, but pleasant. With coating, will have some contrast, but not a lot.
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Very pleasant wide open, this is not a great shot, because I used 1/15 second shutter but it is still something I like:

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05-04-2010
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I use 9cm elmar f4 in m-mount. It is my favorite. I bought it for 150$.
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05-04-2010
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Thanks chaps I'm more than happy and quite pleased at the price
regards Mick
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05-05-2010
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That is a very late issue Black Elmar 9cm F4! I had one in chrome just like it, Sn a bit higher. I think yours is a WW-II serial number.
(Edit: Looks like this one is post WW-II, from 1947)
Last edited by Brian Sweeney : 05-05-2010 at 15:08.
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05-05-2010
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tahnks brian, do you think £62 was a godd price then
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