Windows 7 and older scanners (Nikon, Konica Minolta)

[Cron]

I intend to buy a Nikon 8000 or Konica Minolta 5400 II filmscanner.
As I have read on Nikon's website they will not update for Windows 7 but their latest scanners would do their job under "7".
Konica Minolta stated "not recommanded" but couldn't say if it will work.
Both do not produce filmscanners anymore and will not update the necessary software.
So my question is, does anyone here use one of this scanners in combination with Windows 7 and is the function ok?

Thank you

[fbf]

I use windows 7 U 64bit. I have tried Nikon Ved, 4000,ed, 5000ed, 8000ed,9000ed on the system with no problem. You don't need any nikon software to run them.
I use vuescan for scanning and again, no problems with any scanners mentioned above.

[BSchall]

I have a feeling some of the manufacturers are not going to upgrade the drivers for older scanners for 64 bit Win7. I have an older Epson 2450 and there is no driver for 64 bit Win7 but there is a driver for 32 bit Win7.

But something like Vuescan will work. You just have to buy it.

[wojtek]

I know for sure that Minolta Scan Dual III and IV do work on Windows 7 64bit.

[Beemermark]

Originally Posted by wojtek

I know for sure that Minolta Scan Dual III and IV do work on Windows 7 64bit.

I could not get my Minolta Dual Scan IV to work with Windows 7 64 bits OS. Epson had a the Windows 7 driver update for my flat bed film scanner (1640 scanner ) but it was hit or miss. I bought Vuescan and now both work great and more than anything the common interface for the two different scanners is a bonus.

[lawrence]

According to Nikon:

We have confirmed that there is no problem with basic operation under the 32-bit version of Windows 7 for the following models used with Nikon Scan 4.0.3. As the scanners are not recognized under the 64-bit version of Windows 7, they cannot be used. We do not plan to offer Windows 7 compatibility.
- SUPER COOLSCAN 9000ED
- SUPER COOLSCAN 8000ED
- SUPER COOLSCAN 5000ED
- SUPER COOLSCAN 4000ED
- COOLSCAN V ED,
- COOLSCAN IV ED

So it looks like you either have to use the 32-bit or another scanning software (I'm pleased I got the 32-bit version, as recommended by Dell).

[migtex]

One can always install a Virtual Machine software (ex: Sun Virtual box) and install the XP or Windows 32 Bit so original software will work. Just share the same folder for saving.

[Cron]

many thanks for your answers!
I'm happy about the possibilites and looking now for a well priced occassion

[wojtek]

Originally Posted by Beemermark

I could not get my Minolta Dual Scan IV to work with Windows 7 64 bits OS.

All you have to do is to install the Vuescan first - even a trial version. It will embed the needed drivers in the system. Later, Minolta Scan Dual IV works like a charm with Minolta Software.

[biomed]

I also had the same issue with my Coolscan V. I bought Vuescan which runs just fine with Win 7, 64 bit. I could never quite achieve the same quality scans with Vuescan as I could with the Nikon software. I eventually resurrected my old XP machine and have been using it with the Coolscan. A couple of weeks ago the old computer just died. I built a new computer to support the scanner. I accomplished this for under $300 by reusing components such as the DVD burner. It is running an AMD Sempron and 4G of ram with Win XP Pro. I did add a 500GB removable drive so I can save my scans and transfer the drive to my Win 7 computer for any processing. Both computers are connected to the keyboard, mouse and monitor via a KVM switch. The KVM and removable HD have made the workflow a lot better. It is great to have my scanner back up again! Now to replace that ancient printer.....

Mike

[MartinP]

Rather than building a computer to use an older operating system, it does seem more practical to virtualise one on a newer machine. That can be done on either a Windows or linux host machine and apparently also on MacOS (though I haven't done it on a Mac as I don't own one). The 'old' guest system (probably 32-bit windows) can be set up on a 64 or 32 bit host with all the virtualisation software I have seen.

EDIT: Ooops, this was also pointed out by Mig, further up the page

[Peter Klein]

"Windows XP mode" can be installed on a Win7 x64 Professional (or higher flavor) box. It's free, but you have to go to support.microsoft.com and download a couple of large files.

[gdi]

I have NikonScan running fine with my 9000 and Win7 64bit Pro. (Never really liked VueScan).

It has been a while since I did the setup, but I followed these instructions and I recall it going pretty smoothly.

http://www.sevenforums.com/drivers/4...rk-w7-x64.html

[Mongo Park]

Have the Nikon Coolscan IV ED which was out of action for almost a year when my old PC broke and I had to get a new one with Windows 7 Home. However, its only Windows 7 Ultimate or Professional that allow you to use Windows XP mode (upon download) as Peter and Migtex say. Solution - bought a cheapish laptop with Windows XP and Adobe Photoshop 8 Elements pre-loaded (less than £200) - and use it almost exclusively for scanning.

[nksyoon]

Windows 7 32 Home Premium, Vuescan Pro, Minolta 5400 I - works fine.

[Kim Coxon]

I have the Nikon 8000ED. No problem with the drivers for XP, Vista or 7 32 bit. However, the drivers will not work with any of the 64 bit versions of the software.

Kim

[sevo]

Originally Posted by Kim Coxon

I have the Nikon 8000ED. No problem with the drivers for XP, Vista or 7 32 bit. However, the drivers will not work with any of the 64 bit versions of the software.

Strictly speaking, the drivers for the x000 Nikons will not install in 64bit - if you get around that (there are 64bit patched installer scripts all over the net), they work perfectly fine.

Sevo

[biomed]

Originally Posted by MartinP

Rather than building a computer to use an older operating system, it does seem more practical to virtualise one on a newer machine. That can be done on either a Windows or linux host machine and apparently also on MacOS (though I haven't done it on a Mac as I don't own one). The 'old' guest system (probably 32-bit windows) can be set up on a 64 or 32 bit host with all the virtualisation software I have seen.

Originally Posted by Peter Klein

"Windows XP mode" can be installed on a Win7 x64 Professional (or higher flavor) box. It's free, but you have to go to support.microsoft.com and download a couple of large files.

I thought about going this route, but having the scanner on a dedicated computer frees up my Win 7 machine for other uses (photo editing, printing, surfing, etc,) while scanning.

[Kim Coxon]

It doesn't really help because the Nikon scanner drivers will not work with Windows XP (64bit). It doesn't matter what software you use, the system still has to recognise the hardware.

I use and older machine to take the scans and process on a new machine. As hi-res 6x9 scans can take some time, it helps anyway.

Kim

Originally Posted by Peter Klein

"Windows XP mode" can be installed on a Win7 x64 Professional (or higher flavor) box. It's free, but you have to go to support.microsoft.com and download a couple of large files.

[Robin P]

Originally Posted by wojtek

All you have to do is to install the Vuescan first - even a trial version. It will embed the needed drivers in the system. Later, Minolta Scan Dual IV works like a charm with Minolta Software.

Yes, that worked for me too but here is something else to consider if your scanner is so old it uses a SCSI card (rather than USB).
It was impossible to obtain a 64 bit driver for my SCSI card (Adaptec) so I had to choose 32 bit Windows 7.

Cheers, Robin

[nrb]

Originally Posted by wojtek

All you have to do is to install the Vuescan first - even a trial version. It will embed the needed drivers in the system. Later, Minolta Scan Dual IV works like a charm with Minolta Software.

I just did that and even though the Minolta Scan Dual IV now keeps the scanner light steady the Minolta software still doesn't open. The message says it won't open because of error 21. My system is Windows 7, 64bit.
It´s a pity I can't make my scanner work on Windows 7 with the original software I was used to work with.

[ebolton]

I'm in the SCSI hole. I have an LS-30, which I've been running on an Adaptec AV-2906 on XP with Vuescan. I'm replacing the failing computer with a 64 bit Win 7 box. I don't change computers often, so I wanted to stick with the most advanced stuff I can get, rather than back down to 32 bit Win 7 or XP. It appeared the pain of getting a SCSI port on a 64 bit machine was more than the LS-30 justified. I'll be selling the LS-30 and taking delivery of a new Plustek USB scanner soon.

[wojtek]

Originally Posted by nrb

I just did that and even though the Minolta Scan Dual IV now keeps the scanner light steady the Minolta software still doesn't open. The message says it won't open because of error 21.

That is rather bizarre. Do you have any printers/multifunctional devices plugged in through usb? Try uninstalling their drivers first, and then connecting the Minolta.

I have performed the trick described in my previous post with three scanners since (Scan Dual III and two IV's), both on Win7 32 & 64 bit and it worked like a charm...

[Nikon Bob]

Originally Posted by wojtek

All you have to do is to install the Vuescan first - even a trial version. It will embed the needed drivers in the system. Later, Minolta Scan Dual IV works like a charm with Minolta Software.

Thanks for the tip. I just installed a trial version of Vue Scan 32 bit on my Win 7 32bit laptop and the original Minolta scanning software now works for my Minolta 5400 v1. No idea what will happen when the Vue can trial period ends. At least I now know I have some options for the future when my old PC XP pro dies.

Bob

[wojtek]

Originally Posted by Nikon Bob

No idea what will happen when the Vue can trial period ends. At least I now know I have some options for the future when my old PC XP pro dies.

Actually, you don't have to worry as it will all work as it should. Vuescan installs its drivers, but you don't need to run the software at all. You can have the drivers forever... Without using Vuescan even once.