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Old 10-08-2009   #81
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Great image, shadowfox. Here is another "modern japanesey" stuff from a Kissaten in SF. It's also from 85/2 (version 2).

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Which 28mm was this? the f2.8 or f3.5 variant?
The 2.8 version.
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So, how much are you willing to drop on a 135 f3.5?
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Why you certainly are not helping my 135mm zuiko GAS.
I'm the wrong person to ask for help wrt GAS, Will

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Good dog! Ur, I mean good shot. Is that a wolf or a pet? Or both? Either way, it's beautiful. Love the colors, the sharply focused eyes, and the depth of field just melting away from there on back.

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Thanks, Greg. It's a wolf in the Californian Wolf center, where (Mexican and Alascan) Wolves are bread for re-population across the US.

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Shadowfox,

Very, very nice. Sharp, with gorgeous texture and color. And I love how the out of focus areas are rendered. Looks like a Japanese tea ceremony.

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Helen, I am not familiar with a lot of your work. Is there a significance to the grayness/absence of highlights in this photo? It's an interesting technique, and seems to be making a particular statement, which I can't quite figure out.

Should I be looking at this in a particular context?
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Another great one! I see a theme here.

I'll take a photo of our tea set this weekend. I have to cook for the in-laws tonight.

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Great image, shadowfox. Here is another "modern japanesey" stuff from a Kissaten in SF. It's also from 85/2 (version 2).

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50/1.4 got here, two 28's on the way!
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50/1.4 got here, two 28's on the way!

My 50/1.4 arrived today from KEH, like new in the box. And they really meant it! In a plastic bag inside the styrofoam insert, original box, instruction sheet and all. Since my OM1 looks like new I figured I may as well go for it.

I had all but given up on a 28/2 and decided to get a 2.8. Ordered one EX grade from KEH on Monday for around $100. It should be here in a day or two, maybe tomorrow.

As fate would have it, I got an e-mail from John, the OM guru, the very next day. He found a 28/2 in great shape. I put my m-mount 40/2 Rokkor in the classifieds last night and had the money in my Paypal account before bedtime. Now I'll have two 28's! What a wonderful dilemma! You may see a 28/2.8 in the classifieds in a week or two, or maybe I'll just skip lunch for a few months and keep them both!

Still, I hate to see the Rokkor go. I was going to keep it even though I sold the R3A a couple of months ago. I know I'll eventually have another RF, but I think I'm going to be happy with the OM's from now on anyway whether I get another RF or not.

I'm actually going to post some pics soon. This weekend I'll upload to a new Flickr account. I closed my old one three years ago after doing a big photography job. The client downloaded everything and never paid me! I've only done about a dozen paying gigs and that was my very first. Now I'm only doing it for my pleasure, but that should be another thread. I'll post that one soon. Got to get rid of the in-laws first!

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BTW, the 28/2.8 and 28/3.5 are almost identical in size, if memory serves. I had one of each, did some quick and informatl tests, and couldn't discern any advantage to the 3.5, so kept the 2.8 even though it was in uglier cosmetic condition.
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Helen, I am not familiar with a lot of your work. Is there a significance to the grayness/absence of highlights in this photo? It's an interesting technique, and seems to be making a particular statement, which I can't quite figure out.

Should I be looking at this in a particular context?
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No particular 'context'
All I'm After is ATMOSPHERE....
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First shot from the OM2, 50/1.8
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First shot from the OM2, 50/1.8

Not my best photo ever, but it demonstrates that everything works properly. Used Kodak Portra VC 400

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Chris will be along any moment to comment about the ugly bokeh of the 50/1.8.
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Chris will be along any moment to comment about the ugly bokeh of the 50/1.8.
Ha, you're probably right! I've read some of his posts on that topic, but I guess I'd rather have ugly bokeh than no bokeh at all!

Besides, that's kind of the way I see the world these days. I need to have my prescription filled!
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That 50/1.8 sure has awful ugly bokeh.
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One thing I've noticed about my Zuiko 50mm 1.4 early version, and I'm sure Chris or possibly Roland can elaborate here, is the marked difference between how it sees the world at f1.4 compared to f2! It's like two different lenses ... extremely soft wide open but stop it down to f2 and bingo ... quite sharp! Oddly this behaviour seems far less apparent when shooting at close to it's minimum focusing capability!

Was this a major design short coming in the early lens or was it something they always factored into it's design ... what did they do wth subsequent versions to overcome this?
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Curses. Now I have to break out both silver- and black-nose 50mm f/1.4s to find out. And I'd been looking forward to test-driving my new 100mm f/2.8. Damn you, Keith!
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Thanks, Chris for surprising us.

I have put the 50/1.4 (600xxx range) away for awhile in favour of the 50/1.8 miJ. In addition to being Chris-contrarian, I felt I wanted to reaquaint myself with it, plus enjoy the smaller size.
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Curses. Now I have to break out both silver- and black-nose 50mm f/1.4s to find out. And I'd been looking forward to test-driving my new 100mm f/2.8. Damn you, Keith!

LOL ... I don't mind it's softness at 1.4 because it really is superb at f2 ... I rate it as one of the best 50mm lenses I own for black and white shooting.

When I want real speed and bokeh to make my head spin ... I pick up my 50mm 1.2!
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So, how much are you willing to drop on a 135 f3.5?
I assume you're asking me.

Not too much, Frank, certainly not worth the shipping cost to Texas from Canada.

That's why I still haven't had it to this day, I'm too cheap to spring for one outright I'll keep looking for local kits for sale.
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Great image, shadowfox. Here is another "modern japanesey" stuff from a Kissaten in SF. It's also from 85/2 (version 2).

Nice, Sug.

I often wonder why people say that this lens is not sharp, I've never had any problems getting pictures at f/2 that are sometimes too sharp (pores look great on a guy's portrait, but don't even bring that up to a lady )
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Don't forget the amazing, amazing Macro glass in this system.

I have been shooting an OM-1n for about a year now as my exclusive small-format system, and recently was the kind recipient of a mint OM-2n, both of which are wonderful cameras: Jewel-like in their beauty, but purpose-made tools.

20/3.5 @ 15x magnification @ f/16 = strong diffraction at this aperture, but what the heck (OM-2n, natural light):


90mm f/2.0 @ f/11 (OM-1n, natural light):


Both on FP4, scanned silver-gelatin prints. In my opinion, the 90/2.0 s the be-all-end-all of 35mm SLR lenses to date. Not because it's the best (sharpest, most flare-free, etc) lens ever, but because of the "character" of the lens. Leica "glow"? Bah!

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I rate it as one of the best 50mm lenses I own for black and white shooting.
I'll second that Keith.

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That 50/1.8 sure has awful ugly bokeh
Chris, I know your feelings on this (you may have mentioned it before ), but let's be honest, is there such a thing as a bad Zuiko? Whoops, maybe should have started a new thread with that one!
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Hi Chris. Sorry about that. Didn't mean to hurt your eyes. Next time I'll use the 50/1.4 or stop down.

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Gregor,

When I posted that post about the 1.8 having ugly bokeh I wasn't paying attention. I didn't notice that earlier you had put one of your pics up from that lens. So, that wasn't directed at you. LOL I saw Trius's post saying I'd be around soon to complain about the 50/1.8 bokeh so I obliged him by complaining
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Nice, Sug.

I often wonder why people say that this lens is not sharp, I've never had any problems getting pictures at f/2 that are sometimes too sharp (pores look great on a guy's portrait, but don't even bring that up to a lady )
Hey thanks Will.

Yeah, I've never had problem with my 85/2. The beauty of this lens is that it shows softness if you shoot soft things while it beautifully renders sold stuff from wide open as well.

To prove point, here is another 85/2 wide open shot from my friends' wedding last week.

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When I posted that post about the 1.8 having ugly bokeh I wasn't paying attention. I didn't notice that earlier you had put one of your pics up from that lens. So, that wasn't directed at you. LOL I saw Trius's post saying I'd be around soon to complain about the 50/1.8 bokeh so I obliged him by complaining

No problems! I do have a sense of humor, and like I said before, that's not what I consider a great picture by any means - just demonstrating that at least the camera works very well even though the photographer might not always!
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One thing I've noticed about my Zuiko 50mm 1.4 early version, and I'm sure Chris or possibly Roland can elaborate here, is the marked difference between how it sees the world at f1.4 compared to f2! It's like two different lenses ... extremely soft wide open but stop it down to f2 and bingo ... quite sharp! Oddly this behaviour seems far less apparent when shooting at close to it's minimum focusing capability!

Was this a major design short coming in the early lens or was it something they always factored into it's design ... what did they do wth subsequent versions to overcome this?
Hi Keith,

Very interesting. I'll be shooting the 50/1.4 this weekend and will make a point of comparing wide open with one stop down.

Just got a later version in the mail yesterday, serial number 1148833. It looks like it's never been used!

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Hi guys, I was just given an Oly OM-2 with a bunch of lenses and accessories. My aunt saw me shooting with my Hasselblad and M6 and mentioned that she still had a bunch of old camera gear in a drawer at home that I could have if I wanted... who am I to say no right?
There was too much to bring home in my backpack, so I just brought the OM-2 and 50 1.8 with me, but there were 3 more zooms, one Zuiko, one Vivitar and one who's name I already forgot. Also a 28 3.5 and I think a 90 2.0 macro. Also there was a bunch of filters (each lens already had filters on it, wow ), a bellow system, an enlarger for slide copying and some other things. Once I get all the stuff sorted I'll shoot a picture of it. Oh and a Rollei 35 compact, that thing is tiny!

Here's the OM-2, it's got some battery residue in the battery compartment, I got a tip that I can clean that with q-tips and clear vinegar, so I'll give that a shot before I put some new batteries in it.

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...and I think a 90 2.0 macro....
Wow, if you received a gift 90/2.0, you are one very very lucky guy.
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Wow, if you received a gift 90/2.0, you are one very very lucky guy.
Hmm yeah I just realized.. I looked it up on some online shops and
Well I'm not 100% sure, next weekend I'm going to try to pick everything up, all I know is that one of the lenses was a 90/f2.0 and I'm pretty sure it had macro on it..
I'm going to have some fun with this camera, that's I DO know
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Renzsu,

If it's the 90/f2 it's macro. Enjoy.

http://zuserver2.star.ucl.ac.uk/~rwe...oup/90mmf2.htm

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Wow, yes, a 90/2 is a real gem of an acquisition.

Apparently, as well as being superb at macro distances, it's also a very good all-round short tele.

You clearly are going to be enjoying yourself with that lot
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Just FYI, I started a thread over at APUG on my long-term impressions of the 90/2.0 Macro, with plenty of examples (and others have also contributed), you may want to have a look:

http://www.apug.org/forums/forum52/6...pressions.html

The 90/2.0 is no mere lens, it's one of those rare examples (like most Leica M lenses) that seems to define the lens maker's art. It is simply exquisite, which is why a second-hand example of this 1980s lens costs more than a new modern ~100mm Macro with electronic image stabilisation and focus that goes to 1:1 (the 90/2.0 only magnifies to 1:2). And having both in hand, I must say that the Zuiko 90/2.0 is built far better (feels more expensive, more solid, more jewel-like) than a $3000 Schneider Super-Angulon XL 90mm f/5.6, the only other lens I own which I would classify as "exquisite" or [insert similar over-the-top hyperbole here].
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Just FYI, I started a thread over at APUG on my long-term impressions of the 90/2.0 Macro, with plenty of examples (and others have also contributed), you may want to have a look:

http://www.apug.org/forums/forum52/6...pressions.html

The 90/2.0 is no mere lens, it's one of those rare examples (like most Leica M lenses) that seems to define the lens maker's art. It is simply exquisite, which is why a second-hand example of this 1980s lens costs more than a new modern ~100mm Macro with electronic image stabilisation and focus that goes to 1:1 (the 90/2.0 only magnifies to 1:2). And having both in hand, I must say that the Zuiko 90/2.0 is built far better (feels more expensive, more solid, more jewel-like) than a $3000 Schneider Super-Angulon XL 90mm f/5.6, the only other lens I own which I would classify as "exquisite" or [insert similar over-the-top hyperbole here].

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I consider myself quite lucky to have purchased my 90/2.0 for an affordable price on eBay, due to it having a small chip in one of the glass elements. Such a mark will, of course, never visibly affect the image, so I am happy, and got it for at least $500 cheaper than the going rate for mint copies.

Ok ... shock me!

What is the going price for one of these wonder lenses ... I need to know now!
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What is the going price for one of these wonder lenses ... I need to know now!
Rarity, more than price, make them difficult to acquire. They seem to go from about $800 to $1100 in the second-hand market. Not big money for a lens in absolute terms, but not cheap for a 1980s Macro as part of an obsolete system either.
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Ugh I'm really hoping it's the 90 f/2.0 Macro now, imagine if it's a different lens haha. But, the lenses there seemed to be in great condition, filters mounted and stored in their original containers. But, I'll shut up now until I can show you guys a picture of the stuff (hopefully next weekend or so).
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90 f/2.0 Macro on eBay yesterday and didn't sell at 675. The seller sold a similar one for 605 about a week ago. All very temping ....

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Hi everyone. It's been nearly 2 months since I've really done any photography. I was going strong and things just sort of sputtered out. I processed my first roll in a while from my OM1 with some Arista Premium 400 pushed to 1600. I think I need a new reel though, the negs didn't come out looking so good all covered with emulsion in certain areas because the reel just loved to buckle.

Anyway, these shots were taken over the course of a few weeks with the 1.8 50mm and the 3.5 28mm.





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They look real good to me! Nice work. I've seen some of your previous work and liked it too. If memory serves me, that's your fiance. Beautiful!

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