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10-03-2009
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1.1 makes a lot of sens now..
wide open, m6 + bw400cn:

both hand held in very very low light, both ultra sharp!!!
m8, wide open + nd4 filter bw jpg from camera + toning in ps:

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10-27-2009
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#327
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A couple of weeks ago I was in a camera store getting a minor repair done to my m6ttl and the owner told me that it would be about 30 minutes and then he told me to go outside and shoot this lens....he handed me a Nokton 50mm 1.1....I must admit, I was a little surprised... I felt "rushed" a little bit, but needless to say, I went out and shot some shots...all shots are wide open (1.1).....
cheers, michael
nokton 1.1 bangkok.jpg
nokton 1.1 bangkok 2.jpg me nokton 1.1.jpg
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10-27-2009
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#328
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a couple more...
it's a nice lens, but I don't really need one.....
cheers, michael
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Last edited by michaelbialecki : 10-27-2009 at 20:01.
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10-31-2009
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#329
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I am looking to buy this lens, it seems like a great lens and price is not expensive, however the DOF doesn't look like it's f1.1. Can it be f1.2 and cosina overated it? just a silly thought.
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10-31-2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xichlo
I am looking to buy this lens, it seems like a great lens and price is not expensive, however the DOF doesn't look like it's f1.1. Can it be f1.2 and cosina overated it? just a silly thought.
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I think that could be; when I compare my Nokton 35/1.2 to my 50/1.2 Hex the Hex is faster.
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10-31-2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xichlo
I am looking to buy this lens, it seems like a great lens and price is not expensive, however the DOF doesn't look like it's f1.1. Can it be f1.2 and cosina overated it? just a silly thought.
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Quite a silly thought, yes. How on earth could you tell f/1.1 or f/1.2 apart from pictures on the web, without an A/B comparsion? We're talking about 1/4 of a stop difference. 
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10-31-2009
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#332
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 , but my eyes can tell the difference between f1.0 noctilux and f1.1 Nokton. The f1.1 on the nokton is more like between f1.2 and f1.4 to me.
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Originally Posted by Makten
Quite a silly thought, yes. How on earth could you tell f/1.1 or f/1.2 apart from pictures on the web, without an A/B comparsion? We're talking about 1/4 of a stop difference. 
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10-31-2009
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To be honest though I was initially disappointed with the Nokton based the photos I saw. Gradually I now think that had the Nokton had a red dot Leica on, it would have been another legendary lens.
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11-01-2009
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#334
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11-10-2009
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#335
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the Noctilux is an old design, plenty of uncorrected aberrations which makes part of its charm, but also some very cruel limitations, which one cannot be fooled and believe they are genuine designed characteristics...
The VC Nokton 1.1 is just only a far better design issued from a far better knowledge and computation power in the 21st century than in early 1960's where a kilo-octet was considered gigantic...
sorry for the ones believing in some magic leica noctilux f/1 ...
The Noctilux f/1 has a similar behaviour as the old Summilux which has itself the same behaviour as the old Summarit 1.5.
The VC Nokton is much more like having a Summilux Asph or Summicron extended to f/1.1.
It's already my personal impression, but let's wait for further tests on proper film and not a cropped sensor... :-)
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11-25-2009
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#336
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xichlo
I am looking to buy this lens, it seems like a great lens and price is not expensive, however the DOF doesn't look like it's f1.1. Can it be f1.2 and cosina overated it? just a silly thought.
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I agree, from the shots I've seen wide-open it seems like the DoF is greater than I'd expect at f/1.1, not just talking about M8 or RD1 shots either.
That said I'd love to own one, but I just got a Canon 50mm f/1.2 that'll probably hold me over for years.
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11-25-2009
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Are there any comparison shots between the Noctilux f1 and the f1.1 Nokton under similar conditions except focus charts, brick walls and alike?
Somebody owns both to give comments about their distinctive differences (handling, size, consistent focus, …)?
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11-25-2009
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Benny Ng
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Quote:
Originally Posted by menos
Are there any comparison shots between the Noctilux f1 and the f1.1 Nokton under similar conditions except focus charts, brick walls and alike?
Somebody owns both to give comments about their distinctive differences (handling, size, consistent focus, …)?
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I did a comparison set back then, on the Epson R-D1, which I understand you also recently acquired.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...5&postcount=52
The Noctilux is much heavier and when mounted on the Epson R-D1 as compared to the Nokton. Without a grip, case or neck strap, it's a bit tiring on the wrist. The Nokton handles much better and feels balanced on the Leica M series as well as the other Japanese RF cameras. In terms of focusing, it really depends on the camera. With the R-D1's lifesize viewfinder, I don't have any problems.
Hope that helps.
Cheers,
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11-25-2009
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#339
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Thank you very much for the link to the photographs Benny!
They showed me a lot of information about both lenses, I did not know, especially, how they handle pointed lights within the image at certain apertures.
As I see it, neither lens would fit into my concept of lusting after a 50 Summilux ASPH with a stop more light (the new 0.95 Noct might be but is absolutely out of the question).
The Summilux has quite all optical details, I want corrected, the Noct and 1.1 Nokt exhibit with the penalty of being slower but in a smaller package.
The Nokton though looks like a very competent tool for some graphic and architectural work with interesting background, as long as it is close up (as it exhibits the batwing coma with further lightsources). I like for this topic your photographs of light patterns in the portrait background very much.
Thanks again for your comparison - very helpful.
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12-04-2009
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#340
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12-22-2009
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#341
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Central Park, NYC
Wine glass shot against Christmas tree lights

Last edited by macfiend : 12-22-2009 at 19:49.
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01-01-2010
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Here are a few from today with the M9:
Overall, the lens exhibit more purple fringing than what I consider normal at its widest aperture setting, and at f/1.1, it is fairly soft. I actually found the bokeh acceptable.
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01-01-2010
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02-18-2010
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#344
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Benny Ng
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ASA 100, 1/250 sec, f/1.1 on AE mode.
Voigtlander Nokton 50mm f/1.1 on Zeiss Ikon.
Shot with Kodak Ektar 100 film.
Cheers,
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02-18-2010
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02-19-2010
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Very very nice....
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02-22-2010
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02-23-2010
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02-24-2010
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Mount Tomamu, Hokkaido.
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03-02-2010
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