youtube clips of Gary Winogrand at work...

[LeicaVirgin1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eitfG...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl4f-...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zk1n...eature=related

Watch how he cuts and handles his negatives... I hope you all enjoy it.

Cheers,

LV1

[Florian1234]

Thanks for those links.

I wonder if the people who hold all his negatives now are developing all the vast masses of unprocessed filmrolls and look what's on them.

[Harry S.]

Id love to see his without the German dub.

[Larky]

Gret vids, he handles his negs with the same carelessness as I do, although of course he didn't have Photoshop to remove the scratches and other marks afterwards. I gotta get me a Leica.

[Mattikk]

Dubbing is one of the worst things in the world.

[robklurfield]

Thanks for sharing the links. This is great stuff. It sure is fun to watch him at work.

That's not dubbing; it's narration and some translation. (Dubbing would be his lips moving with someone else's voice; far worse than this.) Nevertheless, it's still annoying for those of us who don't speak German. My son speaks German, so maybe I'll ask him to translate for his nearly monolingual dad.

[januaryman]

Originally Posted by Harry S.

Id love to see his without the German dub.

I found these Winogrand Youtube videos in English a while ago -

Part 1

Part 2

[Florian1234]

Hmm, in the color clip with the German overlay translation he talks about how he dislikes the term "street photographer". They might also call him a "zoo photographer" then since he made a book with photos of animals from the zoo ("The Animals").
Then he goes on about how we know about photographs, in his sense too much about conventions and that one should make oneself free of them. Then he runs out of film, but he already shot stuff like that.
So far the first part.

I like those kind of models when he changes the roll saying "hello Germany"

edito: In the beginning the German narrator tells something about how Winogrand travels cross country, now living in LA. It is for him not about making a nice picture, but to translate the real world into a totally different one - in an explicit picture.
[...] When a photographer decided for the background he's responsible for only two things: what he sees in the viewfinder and when he fires the shutter. The rest does the camera. When I photograph, I look after what I can include. I don't think about pictures. When I photograph I see life - that's all.

[januaryman]

Danke, Florian.

[januaryman]

I suddenly remembered this great interview with Winogrand I saw but never made note of, so after searching a bit, I re-found it!

Winogrand 1981 interview

Notice how he has no patience for fan-admiration, labels, or any wordy interpretation of what he does. You gotta love this guy! He has absolutely no use for pretense or hubris. He just takes pictures. You never see this kind of modesty any more.

UPDATE: For some reason this Youtube clips thread remains, but the Andre Kertesz Youtube clips thread that I started here was moved somewhere else. (Shrug) I think it was moved because this part of the forum is specific to Leica M, and Kertesz started with the Barnack bottom loaders. Oh well, if interested, you can read it here.

[robklurfield]

Florian, thx for the translation. Januaryman, thx for the links. Great stuff.

[Florian1234]

You're welcome.

Anyway, does anybody know about what I asked before?

[gns]

Florian,

His materials are archived at the Center for Creative Photography (at the University of Arizona), and I believe are available to view/study...
http://www.creativephotography.org/

I think I read somewhere that the film he left was indeed processed, but I'm not sure.

Some of his late work was edited posthumously by Szarkowski for inclusion in the retrospective show and book "Figments from the Real World".

Cheers,
Gary

[johannielscom]

Only having seen part 1 so far, I must say it's very inspiring. I like the way he casually snaps everything he comes across. Did you see how he lets the advance snap back? The M4 he shot with can be seen here, on mr. Head Bartender's site.

I gotta get in the game more, "stop thinking about pictures, just shoot life!" Thanks for sharing, respect to Winogrand for all the great stuff he shot.

[jordanstarr]

That man really works his style. The way he moves through the crowd, the way his demeanor comes off as discreet -amazing stuff. I don't even think I would have noticed if he took my photograph on the street.

However, I really would like to see him pull that off in Harlem.

[reiki_]

there is that MIT speech with a link http://assets.whileseated.org/mp3/Ga...d-MIT_1974.mp3

[johannielscom]

Nice to see an old thread revived with a comment.

I learned a lot from watching Winogrand work the streets. Whenever I feel uneasy when starting to work in the streets, the Winogrand approach gets me 'in the zone' and then I forget about being uncertain or held-back. Can recommend it.

[Freakscene]

Originally Posted by Florian1234

I wonder if the people who hold all his negatives now are developing all the vast masses of unprocessed filmrolls and look what's on them.

Winogrand left behind well over 8,000 rolls of unprocessed, unproofed, or unedited film when he died. John Szarkowski had them developed and edited them. They are presented with a tremulous and uncharacteristically laboured essay by Szarkowsky in Figments from the Real World (reference below). Szarkowsky could only bring himself to show 25 of the photos from the last 9,000 or so rolls that Winogrand shot, and, in my opinion, even those are terrible. Winogrand had become a shadow of his former self, shooting compulsively, but badly. I have seen this material archived and it is almost 100% bad snaps.

It's a shame, because Women are Beautiful and Public Relations are amazing.

Marty



Winogrand, Garry; Szarkowski, John (2003). Figments from the Real World. New York: Museum of Modern Art. ISBN 0-87070-635-7.

[jsrockit]

Originally Posted by jordanstarr

However, I really would like to see him pull that off in Harlem.

I'm sure he did at times... and probably pulled it off.

I've photographed there and people can be rude, but I can't blame them really...tourists photograph the neighborhood people like they are at the zoo or something. The only thing that really weirded me out in harlem is that people would get mad at me for photographing a store front without any people in the photo... that was a first. The lady came up and said no pictures, but I took it anyway. She called me an asshole and then I was just like what's your problem, it's a public sidewalk and I'm not taking your picture its a f-ing store front... then she shut up.