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120 / 220 film RF's 120 / 220 format rangefinders including Fuji, Koni-Omega, Mamiya Press, Linhof 6x7/6x9 cameras, Mamiya 6/7 among others, but excluding the 120 folders and the Voigtlander 667 cameras that have their own forums.

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Old 02-02-2009   #1
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New Fuji/Voigtlander Folder News and Pictures

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Oh WOW! now that looks like it will be a great camera to use. I just may have to go deeper in debt.
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Red face Oh Dear!

I'm going to have a hard time not getting one of these. Time to start thinking about a general clearing out of the cupboard to make way (and money) for a new arrival.
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That's going to be hard to pass up, Steven put one on hold for me
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Seriously; I haven't had desire like this for a new camera...ever. I hope it's significantly less than one mortgage payment.

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Yeah...I'm just getting into MF with cheap (Rapid Omega) gear and now THIS comes along. Just tell me when I can have it and where to send the check.
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The GF670 has an automatic lens shutter, and an SPD sensor with both automatic and manual autofocus.
Is this just a typo or what? No way that lens could be autofocus? Maybe they mean auto aperture.
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That could be a typo. Nothing about that lens suggests AF. I don't know how even AE would work on a folder given that the lens is where the shutter "is housed" no?

Interesting looking camera - I note the option for 6x6 as well as 6x7 is available - that's cool

How credible is BJP though? That's what I'm curious about

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Is this just a typo or what? No way that lens could be autofocus? Maybe they mean auto aperture.
It may be a new web page but they repeat old mistakes.

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Dave, AE is quite believable, as the lens-shutter can be electronically timed and recocked as with the Bronica RF645. Might even feature the same little post-exposure buzz-wheeze... I agree "autofocus" must be a typo for "exposure".
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Ya Doug you're correct but I was just wondering how those electronics would work given that the lens collapses into the body - I don't recall but the Bronica RF645 wasn't a collapsible was it?

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I don't recall but the Bronica RF645 wasn't a collapsible was it?
Nope, not a folder like this one, but both have the shutter speed dial on top of the body (with an A setting), not on the lens...
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Rough specifications

To give some harder facts as published already in other threads on the subject.

The specs + some (German site) picture measurements by me (ED), give or take 1 mm.

Technical specifications.

Folding camera with coupled rangefinder
Film choice 120/220 film
6x7 cm (56x68 mm ED)(120-10 exp. / 220-20 exp.)
6x6 cm (56x56 mm ED)(120-12 exp. / 220-24 exp.)
Switch for frame sizes inside the body (ED)
80 mm/f3.5 (4 groups 6 elements)
7 rounded aperture blades (ED)
Close focus is 0.9 m, 3' (CK)
Bright frame-type viewfinder.
Physical rangefinder base 37 mm (ED)
Automatic parallax compensation
Integral LED exposure metering indications
Electronically controlled lens shutter. 4-1/500 sec, B
Exposure control: SPD Sensor
Center-weighted averaging system
Aperture priority AE and manual switchover
Exposure compensation approx 2EV in 1/3EV steps
Film speed: Manual setting, ISO25-3200 (1/3EV step accuracy)
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Outer dimensions: 178x109x63 mm folded (ED)
and 178x109x138 mm unfolded (BJoPh)
Weight 1KG (BJoPh)

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Seriously; I haven't had desire like this for a new camera...ever. I hope it's significantly less than one mortgage payment.



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I wonder how much the ' wooden version' will cost?
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Seriously; I haven't had desire like this for a new camera...ever. I hope it's significantly less than one mortgage payment.

Thanks for the link.


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with the latest rumourd price at $2400 i am glad i dont have your mortgage payments
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I hope the meter still works in manual (non-A) mode. Even though it's not 6x9, I just might sell my Bessa II with the APO-Lanthar to pay for this.
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$2400??? I really want one of these, but that seems pretty steep to me.
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$2400 is out of my price range as well, but it may come down a bit in time.
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I'd certainly like one, but not at the price given in the previous postings!
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To give some harder facts as published already in other threads on the subject.

The specs + some (German site) picture measurements by me (ED), give or take 1 mm.

Technical specifications.

...and close focus is .9m.
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Considering how expensive Fuji GA645 and GW670 used to be, doesn't seem that out of whack.
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For $2,400 - I'll keep my Mamiya 7II, thanks.
Ya.. good point.. I was about to say that for a little more than $300 CDN (which basically doesn't even cover the exchange rate) I could get a brand new Mamiya 7 II kit or a, hehehehehe, Pentax 67 II kit

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Ya.. good point.. I was about to say that for a little more than $300 CDN (which basically doesn't even cover the exchange rate) I could get a brand new Mamiya 7 II kit or a, hehehehehe, Pentax 67 II kit

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Yeah, can someone tell me where these 300$ CDN Mamiya's are? Please.
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with the latest rumourd price at $2400 i am glad i dont have your mortgage payments
Ha! No comment. But 2.4 large is a bit steep, even for something this sexy. Perhaps the used market will be very brisk with buyer's remorse.

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What a treat for film photographers! I am wondering if this camera body would be able to support 6x9. In other words, do you think we will see a 6x9 version of this camera in the future?
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Jeez.. I meant that for a little more than $300 CDN more than the $2400 USD price, I could get a complete Mamiya 7 II kit

http://harrysproshop.com/Mamiya_7/mamiya_7.html

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Nice shots.

Now, a categorizing question: would this fall under the "120 RF Folders" or the "120 RF Modern" forums (forae?)? I mean, there couldn't possibly be a redundancy of these things for good navigation and good knowledge-seeking user experience, right?
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Ah Dave, that makes a lot more sense. I thought I was missing out on some seriously secret awesome camera shop here in Toronto.
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Now, a categorizing question: would this fall under the "120 RF Folders" or the "120 RF Modern" forums (forae?)? I mean, there couldn't possibly be a redundancy of these things for good navigation and good knowledge-seeking user experience, right?
people don't always read the subheadings, but they do clarify the question of what goes where. i guess the mods will have more work to do.

this "Bigger than 35 RF's" category doesn't sound right, though. why not "Medium and Large Format RF's"? and the new "Voigtlander Fujica Bessa III" forum title is a mess. it should be "Voigtländer Bessa III / Fujifilm GF670 Professional".
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Can't afford it now or ever. The $300 Mamiya's are the 645's, and the TLR's: not RF's, and not too svelte, good cameras though.

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Yeah, can someone tell me where these 300$ CDN Mamiya's are? Please.
I think Dave meant $300CAD more than the suggested price of USD$2400
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A japanese rep is hand-holding the new Bessa in this youtube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hftGNk8MZ0A
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Perhaps Cameraquest will have it cheaper when it is available.
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Enjoyable, because it's film. Photos worth savoring, because it's medium format. A never-ending love for photography has been condensed in this high performance yet compact folding camera. The GF670 Professional, the camera that lets you enjoy 6x6 and 6X7 in a single body. Fujifilm continues to disseminate the irreplaceable culture that is silver-halide photography.
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that's called good advertising copy.

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that's called good advertising copy.

thanks jon!
sure thing, aizan (is that your first name?)

It makes me really want one. I was in Taipei today talking with a storeowner asking about them. People are really interested. If they had made the price point lower, these could really sell much more than the 5000 units in the initial run.
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Further info from the German site

http://www.voigtlaender.de/cms/voigt...dih7jzkae.html
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