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02-02-2009
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It's a light machine
5:00 PM is offline
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New Fuji/Voigtlander Folder News and Pictures
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02-02-2009
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Camera Whore
Rprice is offline
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Oh WOW! now that looks like it will be a great camera to use. I just may have to go deeper in debt.
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02-02-2009
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Leigh Youdale is offline
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Oh Dear!
I'm going to have a hard time not getting one of these. Time to start thinking about a general clearing out of the cupboard to make way (and money) for a new arrival.
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02-02-2009
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MichaelHarris is offline
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That's going to be hard to pass up, Steven put one on hold for me 
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02-02-2009
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Just some guy, you know?
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Seriously; I haven't had desire like this for a new camera...ever. I hope it's significantly less than one mortgage payment.
Thanks for the link.
Cheers,
--joe.
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02-02-2009
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It's a light machine
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Yeah...I'm just getting into MF with cheap (Rapid Omega) gear and now THIS comes along. Just tell me when I can have it and where to send the check.
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02-02-2009
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Rangefinder Convert
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Wait what?
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The GF670 has an automatic lens shutter, and an SPD sensor with both automatic and manual autofocus.
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Is this just a typo or what? No way that lens could be autofocus? Maybe they mean auto aperture.
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02-02-2009
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Canadian & Not A Dentist
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That could be a typo. Nothing about that lens suggests AF. I don't know how even AE would work on a folder given that the lens is where the shutter "is housed" no?
Interesting looking camera - I note the option for 6x6 as well as 6x7 is available - that's cool
How credible is BJP though? That's what I'm curious about
Cheers,
Dave
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02-02-2009
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Ernst Dinkla is offline
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jbf
Wait what?
Is this just a typo or what? No way that lens could be autofocus? Maybe they mean auto aperture.
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It may be a new web page but they repeat old mistakes.
Ernst Dinkla
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02-02-2009
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Dave, AE is quite believable, as the lens-shutter can be electronically timed and recocked as with the Bronica RF645. Might even feature the same little post-exposure buzz-wheeze...  I agree "autofocus" must be a typo for "exposure".
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02-02-2009
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Canadian & Not A Dentist
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Ya Doug you're correct but I was just wondering how those electronics would work given that the lens collapses into the body - I don't recall but the Bronica RF645 wasn't a collapsible was it?
Curious,
Dave
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I have an idea what I'm looking for but it only becomes real once I see it - Constatine Manos
ITS THE MAGIC I SEE IN THE Light, Texture, & Tone
that Intoxicates Me - Helen Hill
My Flickr - it's where I post my RF and P&S shtuff
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02-02-2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dcsang
I don't recall but the Bronica RF645 wasn't a collapsible was it?
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Nope, not a folder like this one, but both have the shutter speed dial on top of the body (with an A setting), not on the lens... 
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Rough specifications |
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02-02-2009
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Ernst Dinkla is offline
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Rough specifications
To give some harder facts as published already in other threads on the subject.
The specs + some (German site) picture measurements by me (ED), give or take 1 mm.
Technical specifications.
Folding camera with coupled rangefinder
Film choice 120/220 film
6x7 cm (56x68 mm ED)(120-10 exp. / 220-20 exp.)
6x6 cm (56x56 mm ED)(120-12 exp. / 220-24 exp.)
Switch for frame sizes inside the body (ED)
80 mm/f3.5 (4 groups 6 elements)
7 rounded aperture blades (ED)
Close focus is 0.9 m, 3' (CK)
Bright frame-type viewfinder.
Physical rangefinder base 37 mm (ED)
Automatic parallax compensation
Integral LED exposure metering indications
Electronically controlled lens shutter. 4-1/500 sec, B
Exposure control: SPD Sensor
Center-weighted averaging system
Aperture priority AE and manual switchover
Exposure compensation approx 2EV in 1/3EV steps
Film speed: Manual setting, ISO25-3200 (1/3EV step accuracy)
Manual film wind by winding knob
Mechanical-type counter
120/220 (changeable)
6x7/6x6 (changeable)
CR2 (3v) lithium battery
Outer dimensions: 178x109x63 mm folded (ED)
and 178x109x138 mm unfolded (BJoPh)
Weight 1KG (BJoPh)
Ernst Dinkla
Last edited by Ernst Dinkla : 02-03-2009 at 10:49.
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02-02-2009
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Originally Posted by planetjoe
Seriously; I haven't had desire like this for a new camera...ever. I hope it's significantly less than one mortgage payment.
Cheers,
--joe.
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I wonder how much the ' wooden version' will cost? 
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02-03-2009
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foo was here
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Quote:
Originally Posted by planetjoe
Seriously; I haven't had desire like this for a new camera...ever. I hope it's significantly less than one mortgage payment.
Thanks for the link.
Cheers,
--joe.
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with the latest rumourd price at $2400 i am glad i dont have your mortgage payments 
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02-03-2009
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I hope the meter still works in manual (non-A) mode. Even though it's not 6x9, I just might sell my Bessa II with the APO-Lanthar to pay for this.
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02-03-2009
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$2400??? I really want one of these, but that seems pretty steep to me.
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02-03-2009
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$2400 is out of my price range as well, but it may come down a bit in time.
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02-03-2009
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John Lawrence is offline
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I'd certainly like one, but not at the price given in the previous postings!
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02-03-2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ernst Dinkla
To give some harder facts as published already in other threads on the subject.
The specs + some (German site) picture measurements by me (ED), give or take 1 mm.
Technical specifications.
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...and close focus is .9m.
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02-03-2009
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Shops local
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Considering how expensive Fuji GA645 and GW670 used to be, doesn't seem that out of whack.
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02-03-2009
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Canadian & Not A Dentist
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Originally Posted by Double Negative
For $2,400 - I'll keep my Mamiya 7II, thanks. 
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Ya.. good point.. I was about to say that for a little more than $300 CDN (which basically doesn't even cover the exchange rate) I could get a brand new Mamiya 7 II kit or a, hehehehehe, Pentax 67 II kit
Dave
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I own a Leica and I am NOT a dentist (I don't even portray one on TV!!!)
I have an idea what I'm looking for but it only becomes real once I see it - Constatine Manos
ITS THE MAGIC I SEE IN THE Light, Texture, & Tone
that Intoxicates Me - Helen Hill
My Flickr - it's where I post my RF and P&S shtuff
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02-03-2009
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Shops local
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dcsang
Ya.. good point.. I was about to say that for a little more than $300 CDN (which basically doesn't even cover the exchange rate) I could get a brand new Mamiya 7 II kit or a, hehehehehe, Pentax 67 II kit
Dave
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If you can get a Mamiya 7II for $300 I'll take two! 
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My Gallery
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02-03-2009
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Yeah, can someone tell me where these 300$ CDN Mamiya's are? Please.
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02-03-2009
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Just some guy, you know?
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with the latest rumourd price at $2400 i am glad i dont have your mortgage payments 
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Ha! No comment. But 2.4 large is a bit steep, even for something this sexy. Perhaps the used market will be very brisk with buyer's remorse.
[/wishful thinking]
Cheers,
--joe.
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