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11-12-2008
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Jon Claremont
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Revenge is a Dish Best Served Cold
Six months ago I was photographing at a local gas station.
A large truck was having difficulty maneuvering in the small space.
The gas station manager was angry that I was on the sidewalk photographing the chaos. He pushed me about a bit.
Yesterday...
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a truck hit the same gas station.
Later the gas station was closed down and looks likely to need a complete rebuild. Maybe a year or so.
The gas station manger knows I have the photos to support his insurance claim.
But because he was so abusive and physical last time he's not going to get the photos this time.
I'm smiling. He isn't.
Last edited by ClaremontPhoto : 11-12-2008 at 06:09.
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Karma ...
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With kind regards, ed.
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My M5s need red dots!
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Hmmm... rise above his level, Jon. Show him what having REAL class means.
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Hmmm... rise above his level, Jon. Show him what having REAL class means.
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Agreed. But if you are busy for a while, that is understandable. 
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Lord of Broken Toys
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Originally Posted by SolaresLarrave
Hmmm... rise above his level, Jon. Show him what having REAL class means.
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I agree. That's real revenge - knowing that you're a better person than he is, and him knowing it too. Graciousness can be its own reward, but can also be a very effective stick in the eye.
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It could be money in your pocket! Offer to sell your pictures to the owner or his insurance company. You should have filed a police report about him shoving you while you were on public property.
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Perhaps you could sell them to him for a % of the total reward?
B2 (;->
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Hmmm... rise above his level, Jon. Show him what having REAL class means.
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Come on Francisco, how often in life does one get a chance like this? 
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Lord of Broken Toys
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Come on Francisco, how often in life does one get a chance like this? |
A chance to show real class? Not that often. I am thankful for such opportunities when the present themselves, and when I am able to rise above my own natural inclination to return insult with insult.
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Blackmail the truck company .... |
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I say cash in on those photos! Free gas for life!
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A chance to show real class? Not that often. I am thankful for such opportunities when the present themselves, and when I am able to rise above my own natural inclination to return insult with insult.
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Please note the little in my post... it's meant to lend a note of levity to my reply. Here it is again
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Lord of Broken Toys
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Please note the little in my post... it's meant to lend a note of levity to my reply. Here it is again |
Sorry, I am not fluent in emoticon. I will work on it. Beg pardon.
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Stewart McBride
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Discounted petrol??
One shouldn’t take pleasure in another’s misfortune 
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Regards Stewart
You’re only young once, but one can always be immature.
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Sorry, I am not fluent in emoticon. I will work on it. Beg pardon.
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No problem 
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I'm about to barf from some of the high-and-mighty replies... all we need now is one of "you know who's" lecture on 'honour'.
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Jon,
I am the petrol shop owner. Sorry for pushing you around, I shouldn't have and thanks for posting these pictures here; the insurance company will find them useful
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Lord of Broken Toys
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I'm about to barf from some of the high-and-mighty replies... all we need now is one of "you know who's" lecture on 'honour'. |
I'm curious as to what is 'high and mighty' about suggesting a path of action?
I cannot control the way others treat me. I can control how I choose to respond to them. Too often, I fail to follow my own advice. I try to have more control over myself than that, so it is something I work on.
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I wonder if his attorney might be able to subpoena you. And you have published them, if only on this web thread.
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withholding them to "spite" him will only further propagate his distrust for photographers.
but, of course, you are a businessman. surely there can me some sort of "reciprocation". you did have to buy the film, process and scan the film. and don't forget the wear and tear on your shutter, aperture ring and the hinges on the film door. :-)
- chris
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11-12-2008
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My M5s need red dots!
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Well, I still would rise above his level, but I didn't say anything about not making the guy grovel about the shots.
As for finding them... how? All the petrol station owner knows about Jon is that he wields a camera from time to time. And these photographs carry no identification visible about the location, time or anything else.
Still... Jon could talk to the owner one day saying something like "I heard about your misfortunes with a truck and your roof." (please, notice the emoticon!!!) |
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Well, I still would rise above his level, but I didn't say anything about not making the guy grovel about the shots.
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Now you're talking!
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Lord of Broken Toys
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Originally Posted by IdeaDog
My understanding of game theory is that a "tit for tat" strategy is most effective (in structured computer tournaments where avatars play with various strategies - see Richard Dawkins' book "The Selfish Gene"). You start out being nice, and if someone is a prick to you, you respond in kind. This works for me.
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If someone is a jerk to you, and you are a jerk in return, you're still a jerk. If that does not bother you, hey, have fun.
Ultimately, the only person I have to please is myself. I don't like thinking of myself as a jerk, so I try (and do not always succeed) not to be one.
"He started it," should be carved on tombstones around the country as 'famous last words' of road rage drivers, drunken bar fighters, and others who felt that 'tit for tat' was the best way to live their lives - and that's how they lost them.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IdeaDog
My understanding of game theory is that a "tit for tat" strategy is most effective (in structured computer tournaments where avatars play with various strategies - see Richard Dawkins' book "The Selfish Gene"). You start out being nice, and if someone is a prick to you, you respond in kind. This works for me.
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The thing is, life is not a computer game. If your response is being a prick in return, well then I guess that it makes you .... a prick. |
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Originally Posted by bmattock
If someone is a jerk to you, and you are a jerk in return, you're still a jerk. If that does not bother you, hey, have fun.
Ultimately, the only person I have to please is myself. I don't like thinking of myself as a jerk, so I try (and do not always succeed) not to be one.
"He started it," should be carved on tombstones around the country as 'famous last words' of road rage drivers, drunken bar fighters, and others who felt that 'tit for tat' was the best way to live their lives - and that's how they lost them.
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Well said.
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