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Nokton 35/1.2 Vs Summilux 35/1.4 as bokeh!
Old 10-15-2008   #1
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Nokton 35/1.2 Vs Summilux 35/1.4 as bokeh!

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Which lens has the best bokeh (oof areas) and why beetween Vc nokton 35/1.2 and Summilux 35/1.4 asph???
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Old 10-15-2008   #2
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Best is objective.
Buuuuuuuut....I can tell you they Summilux has more expensive looking Bokeh.
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What expensive looking bokeh looks like :


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Best is objective.
Best is subjective, isn't it? It's money that's "objective."
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sure.
Subjective.
that's what I ment to say.



My Feeling is if you have to ask this question on an internet forum you should buy the cheaper one.
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Paolo what you should do is go to flickr.com and you'll be able to make lots of comparisons there.
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I wanted to know if the summilux has the "double line "effect that the nokton seems to have under some particular light situations. I just bought a m6 titan,a 21 elmarit asph and a 75 summi and I 'd appreciate to know what you think about it.does the summilux wotrth the extra money? thanks for your time.rgrds from sunny Italy
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i've tried to abuse the bokeh of the nokton 1.2 quite a bit,
here are the results:
http://flickr.com/search/?q=nokton&w=23333447%40N00

i was craving for a summilux, but instead i just got the nokton and could get a canon 50mm f1.2 as well and have some money left



black and white bokeh



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Old 10-15-2008   #9
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Paolo, you should subscribe to Sean Reid's reviews, you will find a detailed comparison there. I can only speak for the Nokton - a very beautiful bokeh indeed:
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I wanted to know if the summilux has the "double line "effect that the nokton seems to have under some particular light situations.
Debusti, are you perhaps thinking of the 35mm f1.2 Nokton's little sibling, the 35mm f1.4 nokton? The "double line effect" frequently is mentioned about the f1.4 nokton, I can't remember it in conjunction with the f1.2 nokton..

Irrespective, I've got the f1.2 nokton and it's a brilliant lens, with gorgeous bokeh. I'm still a month from buying a film scanner, or I'd wade in with some examples of my own. If there's a reason to NOT get the f1.2 nokton it surely couldn't be the bokeh! If you're a bokeh nut, the extra 1/2 stop of the f1.2 nokton actually gives you more bokeh range (and light-gathering abilities) to play with than any other 35mm lens on the market.

The build quality and handling of the f1.2 nokton are great, optically it's terrific, and the price is very very reasonable (astounding price to performance ratio, I think). There's no lens I'd rather use at any price for low available light shooting (including the noctilux - although if I had that much spare cash I'd pick one up anyway). To my mind, the only controversial thing about the f1.2 nokton is it's large (by RF not SLR standards) size/weight. For me and for many others it's totally worth it. For some people it's not.


That said, the Summilux would be a great lens too. I haven't used one, but I bet it's great. It does have some notable critics who find the bokeh and rendition overly "harsh", but I really don't think you could go wrong with either of these two lenses - cost notwithstanding!
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PS beautiful example shots posted by you all! Great demonstration of the f1.2 nokton's abilities
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Many thanks to everybody!!!!I'm starting to save money for my lens......
I think it'll be a nokton........... or .........maybe a Summilux!!!!!
I liked very much you
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Many thanks to everybody!!!!I'm starting to save money for my lens......
I think it'll be a nokton........... or .........maybe a Summilux!!!!!
I liked very much your pics... but mailnly I appreciated your friendship!!!!
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I miss my 35 Nokton.
Anyone want to trade a 35 Biogon for one?
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