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View Poll Results: In my opinion, I feel the Leica S2 is:
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Lovely, good looking!
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Ugly! So ugly, give me a break!
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I don't care about its looks.
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I will keep using my M, this is not my style.
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09-22-2008
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#26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Burlap Jacket
It mentions AF in the article above.
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Even better, a new AF system, developed by Leica. Not surprising, as Leica is the original inventor of AF, sadly lost to Minolta back then...
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09-22-2008
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#27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Double Negative
Oh my... The specs sound good, certainly. All new lenses though? I have a weird feeling this puppy is/would be heinously pricey.
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Lets say about 35.000 $ plus?
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09-22-2008
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#28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaapv
Lets say about 35.000 $ plus?
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That price is consistent with other medium format DRFs in the market.
But more importantly I would like to know who made the sensor which Leica is using for S2.
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09-22-2008
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#29
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undecided
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is anyone sure this is real?
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09-22-2008
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#30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nh3
But more importantly I would like to know who made the sensor which Leica is using for S2.
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Kodak. Says so in the article...
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09-22-2008
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#31
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Analog Preferred
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So does this mean that there is a new S mount?
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09-22-2008
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#32
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Well, I'm thinking $30,000 or so is out of my price range. It seems they are leaving us all behind.
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09-22-2008
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#33
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Canon DSLR Refugee
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$30k is still cheaper than a $50k Hassy, at least.
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09-22-2008
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#34
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You got to give it to Leica, this is a Hail Mary pass, putting all of their R&D in the MF market. It'll be interesting to see if that market responds.
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09-22-2008
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I'm a bit disappointed by this truth-be told. When I first heard about the S2, I was hoping for something more inline with the original S1. Not a tethered studio camera, but a dSLR that could use a collection of first and third-party lenses, (new) S-mount, R, M, Canon, Nikon all using adapters. With a 'bigger than 35mm' sensor, software could have cropped the sensor for optimisation with any given lense, with the AF disabled for all but the S-mount lenses.
As it is, it looks like a lovely camera, but too close to the existing Hasselblads, Leafs etc...
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09-22-2008
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#36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Double Negative
$30k is still cheaper than a $50k Hassy, at least.
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$30k is just a guess and Leica has never been known for not out charging their competition for their products.
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09-22-2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by photomoof
I can almost guarantee that is is NOT autofocus.
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Read the text
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09-22-2008
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#39
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Crazy Canuck Kid
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hmm..
Any idea if this will ever make it to production? I only see the word "Prototype" in the text posted by PizzaHut88
Curious,
Dave
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09-22-2008
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09-22-2008
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#41
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Crazy Canuck Kid
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaapv
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Ya.. and I quote:
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Originally Posted by Professional Photographer
From Pros experience with Leica's prototype S2. . . . .
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I don't see anyone stating when this would be in production or available that's all - right now it's a prototype - it's a great announcement but there's no production set up is there? (or is there??) - I'm looking at this akin to Pentax's initial DSLR announcement a number of years ago and it took them quite a while to get the final product to the retail chain level.
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09-22-2008
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#42
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Watch that step!
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Looks like a bad dream.......
I`ll keep shooting with my M6
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09-22-2008
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#43
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I like it.
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09-22-2008
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#44
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Bodhisattva
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It looksbadass as hell...cool. Very cool.
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09-22-2008
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#45
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Cool, and they named it after a venerable Nikon rangefinder camera
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So maybe this is where the Nikon medium format digital RF rumours came from 
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09-22-2008
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#46
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amateur
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The sensor is significantly smaller than MF so I doubt it can compete with those digital MF Hasselblads. If you read the article, you'll see that it's meant to compete for high-end "field" situations where you can't lug around the MF gear, laptop, etc. And that niche is usually filled in by the top of the line Canons and Nikons.
Leica can't muscle in on the big boys' main turf, so they're going after a target that's mostly Canon and Nikon for lack of a better alternative.
Last edited by FifthLeaf : 09-22-2008 at 09:48.
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09-22-2008
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Disaster.
In reality, just WHO is going to buy this?
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09-22-2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FifthLeaf
Leica can't compete with the big boys so it's trying to find its own niche.
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As we say here in Israel: kol hakavod
Rough translation: 'good job'
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09-22-2008
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#49
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Light Hunter - RIP 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Avotius
that sure is one ugly camera
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The way a camera body looks doesn't matter it's the images it produces. Have you ever seen Josef Sudek's camera?
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09-22-2008
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#50
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Did you say Nippon Kogaku
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Leica has a press conference set for 10:00 AM on Wednesday:
http://photokina.en.koelnmesse.info/...tes_bydate.pdf
I guess we'll be sure by then...
Who said Photokina will be boring??
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