A camera that was used in the Manhattan Project (Atmic Bomb Drop on Nagasaki)

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Originally Posted by cosmonot

I think an inquiry to the Naval Historical Center might turn up something. Try to find out where the records from the Philadelphia labs are, or if they still exist.

http://www.history.navy.mil/

The project number could have been assigned by the machine shop that fabricated the cameras. In that case you'd probably need references directly from APEL's daily operations.

The Navy probably won't do the research for you, but they should be able to tell you what resources are available.

I know a Professor in my university who specializes in US military history. Maybe he can give me hints on what to do next.

[Gumby]

Originally Posted by memphis

you might just get knocks on the door for that one -- there may be a current "project 1071" and that might open up the eyes of suspicious types ---- careful asking around dod

I think you may have seen one too many movies.

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I will procede carefully, as the investigation may touch many peoples' lives.

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Originally Posted by photomoof

She may have simply had second thoughts about associating her father with the A-bomb, she said she regretted the email. I do not think the A-bomb project was important to his career, and she probably felt she had misspoken.

Only a guess... can't read her thoughts.

I also explain her behavior this way.
Douglas Winnek was a pioneer of 3D lens design and he does not need any extra fame.

[oftheherd]

Originally Posted by Gumby

I think you may have seen one too many movies.

Well, I think you are trying to cover up something. I googled it and found this reference on the first page!

A camera that was used in the Manhattan Project (Atmic Bomb Drop ...you might just get knocks on the door for that one -- there may be a current "project 1071" and that might open up the eyes of suspicious types ---- careful ...
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...?postid=886030 - 16 hours ago -

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The associate producer of PBS contacted me this morning, and she l
left me a message that they could work around Winnek's family to do the investigation. They have not contected her so far.

[chris91387]

perhaps winnek's daughter is hiding something or knows more than she is revealing.

maybe there's a lot more to this story still to be discovered.

- chris

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Chris,

I don't know. Maybe there is nothing to hide. This is also a possibility.

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"Douglas Winnek also was quite prolific in patented camera designs, imaging techniques and lens manufacturing methods (figure 16 through 18). Called "Trivision", his inventions were widely publicized including his approach to auto stereoscopic X-ray photography."

[Gumby]

Interesting, but SCIENCE NEWS actually spell like that or did something get translated funny?

- techic
- lentieulations

What was the date??

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Vannevar Bush has a box with materials on Douglas Winnek.

Collection Summary
Title: Papers of Vannevar Bush
Span Dates: 1901-1974
Bulk Dates: (bulk 1932-1955)
ID No.: MSS14498
Creator: Bush, Vannevar, 1890-1974
Extent: 55,000 items; 174 containers; 69.6 linear feet
Language: Collection material in English
Repository: Manuscript Division, Library of Congress, Washington, D.C.
Abstract: Physicist, engineer, government official, and science administrator. The collection relates primarily to Vannevar
Bush's role as coordinator of the scientific community for defense efforts during and after World War II when he served as
chairman of the National Defense Research Committee and director of its successor, the Office of Scientific Research and
Development, where he supervised the Manhattan Project and other programs.

[Gumby]

Originally Posted by oftheherd

Well, I think you are trying to cover up something.

Well, you may be on to something... but I'm not at liberty to say any more... except that Mr. Winnick may not have been acting alone... it may have been a conspiracy... with a person with distinctively (ahem) European origins.

Oh no, perhaps I've said too much.

patent 2,689,502

But don't let anyone know where you heard this!

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You guys are having some fun here!

I just talked with the producer; they may have aired a program last season on a topic that might be similar to the one that I have asked them to look into. She does not believe there is much overlap, but she has to view the aired program to make sure.

[cosmonot]

Originally Posted by Gumby

Interesting, but SCIENCE NEWS actually spell like that or did something get translated funny?

- techic
- lentieulations

What was the date??

See post #106.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...&postcount=106

This is the end matter from the journal Science, 1942. Link to PDF is in that post as well.

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I have deleted my posting on the same material as above.

It seems that Winnek's full name is Douglas Fredwill Winnek Coffey.

[Gumby]

Originally Posted by cosmonot

See post #106.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...&postcount=106

This is the end matter from the journal Science, 1942. Link to PDF is in that post as well.

Thanks... I missed that. 1942 explains the peculiar spelling too... perhaps an OCR issue rather than some sort of archaic American scientific language.

[Olsen]

Raid,

You tell little about what this camera weighs, what it is made of etc.

If it is of machined heavy steel it has, most likely, never been in a plane. Then it would be made of aluminium, magnesium - even plywood. Think of these Stratofortresses stressed to it's range limit. How could they 'afford' to carry a camera of cast iron construction? And why? If it is 'very heavy' it is far more likely that some X-ray application. Highly likely.

- No, I think Truman did right about dropping the A-bombs. Indeed, Truman is one of my favourite US presidents. What the current US government is doing in Afganistan, Iraq, Guantanamo, Somalia, Georgia - I could go on, is far worse.

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Originally Posted by Olsen

Raid,

You tell little about what this camera weighs, what it is made of etc.

If it is of machined heavy steel it has, most likely, never been in a plane. Then it would be made of aluminium, magnesium - even plywood. Think of these Stratofortresses stressed to it's range limit. How could they 'afford' to carry a camera of cast iron construction? And why? If it is 'very heavy' it is far more likely that some X-ray application. Highly likely.

Olson,

Two men can carry the camera with its biggest lens. I have never lifted the camera, and it is painted black, so I don't know which metal was used to build it. It weighs less than an average human being.

According to what I have received in one email, the camera was first used in the lab and in later years it was used for reconaissance. It was also mentioned that Winnek trained the Commander on how to use the camera.

It occurs to me that they may have needed a 3D camera, and the Trivision was one of the first 3D cameras.

[NIKON KIU]

Can I say something without causing grief???

Kiu

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Originally Posted by NIKON KIU

Can I say something without causing grief???

Kiu

Of course, you can. What do you want to say?

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I found this link for a 1947 issue of Popular Science in which the inventor Douglas Winnek and his Trivision camera is discussed. They also mention to value of the camera for aerial photography.

http://books.google.com/books?id=zyc...camera&f=false

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Latest: I have given the camera and three lenses to the Physics Department at the Univ. of West Florida as a long term loan for use in the labs.

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I am mentioning this old thread because it includes excellent disvussions, and since this camera has today been discussed with the the Director of the Naval Aviation Museum who thinks that it is a very important part of US history.