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Old 07-13-2008   #1
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Egypt Trip Lens Advice

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I'm off this November for the trip of the lifetime taking a boat up the Nile to see the sights and I just realized today that I only have a 50mm 1.4 ASHP for my MP. Being a rookie I haven't collected another lens yet. Given that most, if not all of you, have more time behind a Leica than I do, do you think I should invest in a 35mm for this trip? I envision great shots of Pyramids and temples as well as close up shots of wall paintings.

To date I've used my MP for one other trip in Hong Kong. I took great street shots and skyline shots and didn't feel restricted by my 50mm but this is a little different.

Just looking for groups collective advice.
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Old 07-13-2008   #2
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As a fan of both rangefinders and"Evil SLR's", I recommend in addition to your MP you take along a SLR and telephoto for shots along the banks of the Nile from your boat. I took my Bessa R2 with 35mm Skopar and a Nikon SLR with 70-300mm zoom on my Egypt trip 2 years ago and could not have gotten the great (to me) shots of life along the river w/o the zoom. Good shooting!
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Old 07-13-2008   #3
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I'd get a Heliar 15mm lens - greal lens one should never leave home without! (takes some practice though)
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Old 07-13-2008   #4
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I recommend a 24-35-50 combination. You have a fast lens already, so the 24/35 don't have to be fast lenses. A small P&S with a sharp lens is useful too. Egypt is a wonderful land to visit and to photograph. I may get such a chance next year.
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Old 07-13-2008   #5
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You definitely need a wide angle. 28mm at least! Those temples are gigantic!
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Old 07-13-2008   #6
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For outdoor shots, 50 and 90 are fine, 135 in place of the 90 is good too.

For shots inside the pyramids and temples, a 24 mm is recommended, along with high speed film as flash is not allowed.

Cover every lens with a filter, it's dusty!

Polarizer is a must to get deep blue skies as a background for the pyramids.

Incident light meter could be useful in case desert is too bright and fools your built-in meter.

Be prepared with lots of baksheesh.
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Old 07-14-2008   #7
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Shots inside the pyramids usually look fairly boring. I'm talking from experience here.

Take as little gear as you can. A wideangle is fine, personally I'm a 21-40 or 21-50 person, but that may be a bit extreme. 28-50 would be my recommendation otherwise.

Do something utterly non-touristic, but highly impressive, ditch the temples for a day and go to a mawlid festival if you have the time. Contemporary Egypt can be as interesting and even more photogenic than the sites.

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I just realized today that I only have a 50mm 1.4 ASHP for my MP.
You just realized you have only one lens?

Take it with you.

And don't forget the camera.
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A couple of years ago I was in Egypt, including boating up the Nile and visiting various other areas.

I had a couple of cameras with me and a bunch of lenses from 12 to 135. One camera usually had a Tri-Elmar, and the other usually either a 15 or a 135. I always find that it doesn't really matter which lens(es) I take, as there are always more pictures for that lens than I have time for. If you have a 50 now, my next additional lens for a 2 lens combo would be a 24 or 21, but that's just me.

My only film on that trip was Fuji 100 speed chrome.

Another poster had mentioned a polarizer. Yes, it can deepen the blue of skies at 90 degrees to the sun, but the main reason that the sky over the pyramids is not blue on a sunny day is a combination of (mostly) pollution and sand, and a polarizer can't help you with those. Also, a handheld meter is no better (or worse) intrinsically than a built in meter since, strangely enough, they work by the same principles.

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Old 07-14-2008   #11
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All great advice! Thanks for the tips!
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A very wide would be useful in places such as Karnak, Abu Simbel and Kom Ombo - you get very close to the massive temples and a wide will be useful to get a sense of scale into the photos. The temples do get very crowded, so you often need to get up close if you want to exclude the tourists.
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If you check out the Cairo & Giza gallery on my website, you'll see that that the majority of images really called for a "normal" lens, such as a 35mm or 50mm. While I had multiple lenses with me on this trip, I used the CV 35mm/1.2 the most (on my R-D1s). So, your 50mm on you MP will likely see the most use.

Yes, you'll need a WA lens (21/24/25) for some of the locales, but I would think that usage is roughly 80/20 in favor of the 50mm -- at least, it was for me.

Have fun! The Egyptians are some of the nicest and friendliest people I've ever met (right up there with the Aussies).

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Old 07-15-2008   #14
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Unless you can afford a good range of top-notch prime lenses, I suggest you buy a decent s/hand (D)SLR and a 24-100mm zoom with a good lightweight tripod. If you can carry a 70-300mm zoom as well, it would be worth the extra weight. My wife and I did this trip a few years ago and I can't see any advantage (other than portability) for taking an RF.

One further tip. Try to limit your photography to early morning (06:00 to 10:00) and late afternoon (15:00 to 18:00) or you'll fry. Even the locals cover up and keep indoors / in the shade between 11:00 and 14:00.

Best wishes and happy snapping. PJ.
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My wife and I did this trip a few years ago and I can't see any advantage (other than portability) for taking an RF.
Well he gets to use the stuff he's used to, which is nice.

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One further tip. Try to limit your photography to early morning (06:00 to 10:00) and late afternoon (15:00 to 18:00) or you'll fry. Even the locals cover up and keep indoors / in the shade between 11:00 and 14:00.
If I understand correctly he's going in November, when it's already fairly cool. I don't think they will have more than 30 °C and they may well have less than 15; in fact, on the contrary it might be a good idea to bring an extra jumper or so for the night.

Greetings from Tashkent (41°C/105°F ) -

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